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The City of Springfield Missouri has announced it’s intention to "consider"an ordinance to give homosexuals extraordinary new powers to silence and punish Christian landlords and businesses through civil rights lawsuits. Framed as an “anti-discrimination” measure it is in reality a “Gay Fascism” Bill that will make disapproval of homosexuality illegal in the City of Springfield and grant gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders (GLBTs) legal standing to sue their opponents, primarily Christians. Starting in the 1980s in cities like San Francisco, homosexuals have forced many U.S. cities and numerous states to adopt similar “Gay Fascism” laws with disastrous effects on Christian landlords and businesses. Empowered by recent successes, they are now pushing into conservative cities.

Scott Lively, Joe. My. God. 60 Comments [7/23/2012 2:59:55 AM]
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Leighton Buzzard

[citation needed]

7/23/2012 3:13:01 AM


As everyone knows, the fight for equal rights is just fascism in disguise.

7/23/2012 3:36:52 AM


I'm with Scott on this one. That fascist law would remove my right to evict tenants if I discovered they were Christians.

7/23/2012 3:40:03 AM

Filin De Blanc

Why is it so important that these people be able to refuse stuff to people who do things they don't like? You never hear of vegetarians demanding the right to refuse services to meat-eaters, or pacifists demanding the right to refuse service to soldiers, or anything like that.

7/23/2012 3:44:43 AM

Psycho Tits

Westboro Baptist Chuch's various court victories, including against Albert Snyder when the two parties argued before the SCOTUS, are proof in themselves that Scott Lively's "gay fascism" exists nowhere but in his demented brain. In other words, free speech is still protected.

On the related topics of rental and hiring discrimination, even the best laws against these evils make malice no easier to prove in court. In other words, almost no one can win a discrimination suit unless he has documents, witnesses, and amazing luck - and even then, the wronged party could still lose.

Extraordinary new powers? What a crock of shit. Since when does the right to be heard in court constitute an "extraordinary power"?

7/23/2012 3:52:47 AM


Translation: "ZOMG! I can't be a discriminatory prick! They're discriminating against me! Equality BAD! Waaaaah!"

7/23/2012 4:21:07 AM

Mister Spak

Their gay facism is hurting my fundie facism!!! WWWAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!


7/23/2012 4:37:53 AM

Philbert McAdamia

... to sue their opponents, primarily Christians. ...

Why is it "primarily Christians" in opposition to equal rights in the first place, and troubled by legislation?

7/23/2012 4:41:39 AM


1. Citation seriously freaking needed
2. Your persecution complex is showing
3. I say this as a Christian myself: even if what you claim IS true, I highly HIGHLY doubt that they are just going after the Christians specifically-more like simply ANYONE (from ANY religion) who discriminates against them.

7/23/2012 4:44:58 AM


It grants them the right to sue if they are refused service for no good reason.

Check your privilege.

7/23/2012 4:45:04 AM


Possibly the most blatant "you are violating my right to discriminate" claim of discrimination yet. That's a pretty tough task these days.

7/23/2012 5:12:34 AM


Oh no! Gays will have the same Civil Rights that Christians have taken for granted for centuries!!!! What ever will we do?

You can dislike homosexuals as much as you want, Scotty, but you can't deny them things that you'd provide Christians with in a heartbeat.
If someone denied you access to their store because you're a Christian, wouldn't you sue that person? That is the extraordinary new power that you're talking about, stupid.

You can be a Christian AND a homosexual at the same time, ya know.

7/23/2012 5:24:40 AM


Well, maybe if "Chriistians" don't want to get sued, they should remember what Christ said: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

7/23/2012 5:41:54 AM

Doubting Thomas

Why is it, even if it were the way Scott here describes, do I not feel sorry for those Christian landlords and business owners?

7/23/2012 5:42:53 AM


You know, you wouldn't have to worry about your version of Christianity being attacked by this legislation if your version of Christianity wasn't so damn bigoted toward gays. Many other normal denominations don't discriminate against gays in public life. And while some consider homosexuality a sin, they also realize that there are other sins that people commit on a daily basis (you can't throw a dart without hitting a sin) and that homosexuality is not particularly heinous.

7/23/2012 5:45:56 AM


And so the Anti-right-wing Thoughtcrime legislation is being instituted.


You Nazi fundie right-wing subhumans have had your own way for far too long, it's time you suffered under the boot of Discrimination for at least as long as LGBT people have for thousands of years. [/Sauce for the Goose]

7/23/2012 6:17:32 AM


In short, if they can sue, it's to defend themselves against said opponents' baseless, ruthless, relentless, and endless abuses, discrimination, and biased hiring practices?

..that's what I thought.

Kids, ignore, abjure, or fire back at this Lively ranter, who is effectively a jerkoff trying to stop desegregation. Only the segregated and oppressed are gays, not blacks.

7/23/2012 6:19:20 AM

"to give homosexuals extraordinary new powers"

Holy shit! Are we superheroes now?? Oh sorry, supervillians I guess.

"that will make disapproval of homosexuality illegal in the City of Springfield"

How can you possibly make "disapproval of homosexuality" illegal? You can disapprove all you want inside your head, no one can stop you or make it illegal to have that opinion. But when your bigoted opinion hurts real people in the real world, denying them rights, that's when it's a problem. A landlord shouldn't be allowed to kick me out because I'm gay. Making that kind of discrimination illegal IS equal rights, not fascism.

"and grant gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders (GLBTs) legal standing to sue their opponents"

So even if a homophobic landlord discriminates against me in the city of Springfield, Missouri, I still have to go through the legal system, sue him, and then win the court case before anything will happen to him. Wow, these "extraordinary new powers of fascism" suck. It's almost like they're indisguistishable from equal rights laws that work within the established legal process and aren't fascism at all. Hmmmmm.....

7/23/2012 6:28:05 AM

Churchy LaFemme

It was bad enough when I couldn't refuse to rent to those damn ni--, uh, bla--, uh, minorities. Now they won't let me refuse to rent to queers. Next thing you know, I won't even be able to refuse Catholics, Eye-ties, Spics or Polacks.

7/23/2012 6:49:33 AM


Simply put: As long as you are allowed to write something like this, it is not true.

7/23/2012 7:15:53 AM

"with disastrous effects on Christian landlords and businesses"

First of all, bigots = not Christian.

Second, what "disastrous effects" on Christian landlords and businesses? They ran home and cried because they had to serve or rent to someone with gay cooties? One or two of them finally got sued, as they should have been, for discriminating against someone?

7/23/2012 7:27:55 AM


Let's replace "homosexuals" with "blacks" and see who far his argument goes.

7/23/2012 7:32:37 AM


I like it better than your Christian fascism.

7/23/2012 7:38:05 AM

Filin De Blanc

"Let's replace "homosexuals" with "blacks" and see who far his argument goes."

Indeed - if laws preventing discrimination against gay people are "Gay Fascism" then laws preventing discrimination against black people are "Black Fascism", but generally wingnuts won't condemn those because they want to at least appear not to be racist, but it just makes them hypocrites.

7/23/2012 7:45:12 AM

Thinking Allowed

Hey Scott, you do realize that works for you too. If someone denies you something based on your faith, you can sue too.

7/23/2012 8:10:14 AM

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