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We can't pray in our schools, disturbing nobody, and yet Oregon just passed a law that allows people to actually have sex and masturbate on stage in strip clubs. Actually having sex!!! They said this is "protected free speech" and an "expression of an opinion." Give me a break.

Cooter, Christian Forums 38 Comments [1/3/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Half the fun of this post is the guys username. I know he was a character on \"The Dukes of Hazard\", but to me Cooter will always be an immature slang term for vagina.

1/3/2006 3:06:44 AM


Er, what do you think people go into Strip Clubs for?

Kids don't go to school to pray. Disturbing nobody? I bet any Muslim, Jewish, Pagan and athiestic kids just love supplicating to a Christian God.

1/3/2006 3:12:10 AM


I'm Been to Oregon.....Ohio :-P
-My Two Bits

1/3/2006 3:18:54 AM


Is it just stupidity or are these fundies lying when they say they can't pray in school?

1/3/2006 3:45:14 AM


Well I wasn't aware that these sexual acts supported a certain religion, as organized prayer in school does. However you can pray in school, it just can't be organized. But I think the bumper sticker says it better:
\"As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools\"

1/3/2006 4:04:09 AM


Well, I've got Saturday night off, and, yes, I will be sitting in my local nudie club forking out $1's. I wish they could masturbate and have sex at the clubs here in Milwaukee. Oh, to be in Oregon this weekend.....

1/3/2006 4:44:23 AM


Well, I've got Saturday night off, and, yes, I will be sitting in my local nudie club forking out $1's. I wish they could masturbate and have sex at the clubs here in Milwaukee. Oh, to be in Oregon this weekend.....

1/3/2006 4:44:23 AM


I loved this post in the same thread, predictably it was ignored.

\"we are lampooned by the media because we give them so much ammunition, like the robertson assasination reccomendation, the falwell declaration that we got what we deserved with 9/11, the judge roy moore embarrassment where he refused to submit to a superior, and the slithering attempts to make the philosophy of creationism (which i believe) into science, which it is not. how much great material do you expect the writers to ignore?
my child is free to pray at school at any and all times. she can not be LED in prayer, but i don't consider the teachers to be in a particularly unique position of authority regarding spiritual matters, so that seems fine to me.
why do we feel persecuted when the government doesn't do our job for us. evangelism is not the purpose of the state. its purpose is simply to get out of the way, and i feel no pressure from the authorities to cease and desist my sharing of the gospel. none. the ten commandments are free to be displayed in public, just not by the government or on its property. that's ok. it's not its job to present the commandments to the public. that is my job. i need to take responsibility for it, and stop blaming anyone for government not doing the work. if every Christian had a couple of tablets out on their lawn, would the public be exposed to these ideas enough? or stuck to the bumper, would that suffice? why do we insist the government is responsible for these things? they are there to protect our right to the bumper sticker, the tablets on the lawn, the koran in our book bag or astrology cards in our pocket. the rest is the work that has been given to us. it would be better to get after this work, rather than to imagine a persecution that is simply not there. we have been blessed in the u.s. with a level playing field. now lets go out and win the game!
other examples of persecution in this room will really help to put this in perspective. there are people in the world being killed over this stuff.\" (Reverend B)

1/3/2006 1:01:28 PM

Darth Wang

Well you don't HAVE to go to a strip club if you don't want to.

1/3/2006 3:01:28 PM


Hey, what goes on behind closed doors is none of your business, nor mine nor the state's. It depends on how \"public\" the place really is. (This, I feel, is kind of borderline, but if strip clubs are legal there's probably no reason this shouldn't be.)

Gold - it is nice to see that some are capable of sanity.

1/3/2006 3:48:18 PM

The Last Conformist

He doesn't specify *organized* prayer - he may be one of those fundies who, Grog knows why, believe that event silent, private prayer in school is illegal.

1/3/2006 7:02:37 PM


I'm not sure which is more insane; that this guy is likening nudie shows to prayer, or strip clubs to schools.

1/3/2006 10:07:35 PM

David D.G.

This is a great example of comparing apples to oranges --- with the additional misapprehension that the apple is a kumquat. Prayer has never been disallowed in schools -- only prayer led by school personnel. As for the strip-club situation, well, I can't say I approve either (the \"free speech\" argument does sound rather absurdly lame in such a context), but it's not even remotely related to the school-prayer issue. If Cooter wants these issues treated seriously, he's got to treat them as separate battles.

Gold, that is a wonderful example of lucidity that you brought out for us. Most of the quotes on this site are amusing, but some are also depressing and/or frightening; it's reassuring to know that not all \"people of faith\" are completely nuts.

~David D.G.

1/3/2006 11:30:00 PM


Gold: Another vote for \"thanks for pulling up that thread.\" I'm going to have to use that sometime on another message board.

1/4/2006 12:52:35 AM


\"Oregan has just passed a law allowing people to *read* in libraries! Actually reading!!! Give me a break!\"

1/5/2006 5:43:51 AM


*says in a sarcastic and loud voice* OH MY GOD...people who want to see naked people and sex are allowed to do it in a stripe club, they should be brutaly killed like the people in the dark ages or stoned....or perhaps thrown off a building then stoned....come on you dumbass theres nothing wrong with sex or anything like that why shouldn't people enjoy sex

1/5/2006 9:40:33 PM


Onirus: I don't think they have anything against sex or sex in public (not so public) places.

1/5/2006 9:51:44 PM


no they were whining about the schools not letting them pray and it's only teacher lead prayer that is banned, they made it sound as if public sex is wrong or something

1/6/2006 9:27:27 PM


Schools are state and localy funded, hence seperation of church and state. Strip clubs are private. I hope I was able to clear this up for you. Don't quit your day job.

1/9/2006 3:13:36 AM



1/9/2006 6:44:55 PM


Let's see what happens if you do one of the following or both:

1) pray at a strip club
2) masturbate in school

1/12/2006 6:57:57 PM


He would have a point if they allowed sex and masturbation in schools as well while excluding prayer lead by the teachers.

1/13/2006 1:34:59 AM


give them a break..theyre in oregon for christs sake, there has to be soooooome initiative to go there ;D

1/13/2006 7:53:34 PM


I'll start to worry when they forbid prayer in strip clubs and allow sex and masturbation in schools.

1/14/2006 8:05:16 PM


This from a guy calling himself Cooter.

2/9/2006 5:59:59 PM
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