We can't pray in our schools, disturbing nobody, and yet Oregon just passed a law that allows people to actually have sex and masturbate on stage in strip clubs. Actually having sex!!! They said this is "protected free speech" and an "expression of an opinion." Give me a break.
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Er, what do you think people go into Strip Clubs for?
Kids don't go to school to pray. Disturbing nobody? I bet any Muslim, Jewish, Pagan and athiestic kids just love supplicating to a Christian God.
Well I wasn't aware that these sexual acts supported a certain religion, as organized prayer in school does. However you can pray in school, it just can't be organized. But I think the bumper sticker says it better:
"As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools"
Well, I've got Saturday night off, and, yes, I will be sitting in my local nudie club forking out $1's. I wish they could masturbate and have sex at the clubs here in Milwaukee. Oh, to be in Oregon this weekend.....
Well, I've got Saturday night off, and, yes, I will be sitting in my local nudie club forking out $1's. I wish they could masturbate and have sex at the clubs here in Milwaukee. Oh, to be in Oregon this weekend.....
I loved this post in the same thread, predictably it was ignored.
"we are lampooned by the media because we give them so much ammunition, like the robertson assasination reccomendation, the falwell declaration that we got what we deserved with 9/11, the judge roy moore embarrassment where he refused to submit to a superior, and the slithering attempts to make the philosophy of creationism (which i believe) into science, which it is not. how much great material do you expect the writers to ignore?
my child is free to pray at school at any and all times. she can not be LED in prayer, but i don't consider the teachers to be in a particularly unique position of authority regarding spiritual matters, so that seems fine to me.
why do we feel persecuted when the government doesn't do our job for us. evangelism is not the purpose of the state. its purpose is simply to get out of the way, and i feel no pressure from the authorities to cease and desist my sharing of the gospel. none. the ten commandments are free to be displayed in public, just not by the government or on its property. that's ok. it's not its job to present the commandments to the public. that is my job. i need to take responsibility for it, and stop blaming anyone for government not doing the work. if every Christian had a couple of tablets out on their lawn, would the public be exposed to these ideas enough? or stuck to the bumper, would that suffice? why do we insist the government is responsible for these things? they are there to protect our right to the bumper sticker, the tablets on the lawn, the koran in our book bag or astrology cards in our pocket. the rest is the work that has been given to us. it would be better to get after this work, rather than to imagine a persecution that is simply not there. we have been blessed in the u.s. with a level playing field. now lets go out and win the game!
other examples of persecution in this room will really help to put this in perspective. there are people in the world being killed over this stuff." (Reverend B)
Hey, what goes on behind closed doors is none of your business, nor mine nor the state's. It depends on how "public" the place really is. (This, I feel, is kind of borderline, but if strip clubs are legal there's probably no reason this shouldn't be.)
Gold - it is nice to see that some are capable of sanity.
He doesn't specify *organized* prayer - he may be one of those fundies who, Grog knows why, believe that event silent, private prayer in school is illegal.
This is a great example of comparing apples to oranges --- with the additional misapprehension that the apple is a kumquat. Prayer has never been disallowed in schools -- only prayer led by school personnel. As for the strip-club situation, well, I can't say I approve either (the "free speech" argument does sound rather absurdly lame in such a context), but it's not even remotely related to the school-prayer issue. If Cooter wants these issues treated seriously, he's got to treat them as separate battles.
Gold, that is a wonderful example of lucidity that you brought out for us. Most of the quotes on this site are amusing, but some are also depressing and/or frightening; it's reassuring to know that not all "people of faith" are completely nuts.
~David D.G.
*says in a sarcastic and loud voice* OH MY GOD...people who want to see naked people and sex are allowed to do it in a stripe club, they should be brutaly killed like the people in the dark ages or stoned....or perhaps thrown off a building then stoned....come on you dumbass theres nothing wrong with sex or anything like that why shouldn't people enjoy sex
What's wrong with us having sex in class after the pledge of allegiance?
Aw, c'mon, if you can say "Under God", I can fornicate. Deal?
;)
You know, I actually do go to strip clubs, in OR no less. Even had my boyfriend pulled up on stage on his birthday and got to make out with one of the girls beforehand.
Sadly, there was no sex. So...tell me again about this mythical law?
We can't pray in our schools
There is no forced prayer in schools, but that shouldnt stop you from praying over your lunch tray quietly.
Oregon just passed a law that allows people to actually have sex and masturbate on stage in strip clubs.
Thats what strip clubs are for you moron.
Ok, I agree, that is unfair. From now on, sex in school hallways will be legal. That a workable compromise for you:D?
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