[Re. a report that demonstrates that defendants are more likely to walk free in "Stand Your Ground" cases when the victims are black.]
No, it could not be any more one sided. Most-likely illegal gun carrying, violent criminal histories, and a lack of knowledge about the law with the self control to abide by the law and fake stories that don’t match evidence has something to do with blacks losing cases.
A lot of blacks are getting shot because blacks are bullies. I am waiting for a pack of racist “yutes” to get blown away.
There was a hysterical response from Philadelphia authories when whites started talking about defending themselves from black hoodklan attacks in newspaper forums.
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Is she implying that all[/] black people are like this? Race isn't a problem. There are plenty of things that make people resort to violence, such as bad home situations, bad influences, and, most likely, the person not even being mentally sound in the first place.
Or it could just mean that Americans are racist, above and beyond what is acceptable anywhere else (except of course, for dictatorships where that is par for the course). If Trayvon Martin had lived in one of the Nordic countries, he would not have been shot, and not just because firearms are mostly illegal there. He would not have come to harm of any kind, because Europeans do not think that all black men are violent criminals.
@Brendan Rizzo
I really wish Europeans were what you say... I live in the Racist capital of the UK, a place where not only did the BNP win council seats but the EDL very nearly won some too. (EDL was formed by those who thought the BNP wasn't racist enough...)
And this kind of thing is in existence throughout Europe... Hell, the last Greek election had an ultra-nationalist party gain 18 seats in the parliament there, so there are parts of the government which have those kind of beliefs.
Still, even with that it's not as bad as it appears to be in the US, so there's that...
@Brendan Rizzo: Why don't you search the site for the board "Sarah Maid of Albion". It's a British blog that's brought us gems like this:
"I would add to that that there is only one solution. That solution is total separation, removal of all blacks from Britain.
Sure, some of them are not rapists. Some of them are not murderers. And so forth. But it seems that everyone of them carries the seed for these acts, and a large proportion of them act upon that seed. When you are pulling weeds in the garden, you do not only pull the ones that have gone to seed, you get them all. That is what must be done with the blacks.
The same thing applies to the muzlims as well.
Only when these measures are taken will the UK be restored to health as a sound, reasonable, Western nation."
http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=77703
Okay, that fundie doesn't think all black people are violent criminals, just that all of them should be treated like criminals. How about this:
"Anti-racism is just the smiling mask in front of the face of snarling, drooling WHITE GENOCIDE. It always was."
http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=74551
Or this:
"The problem with the darkie is that no mater how much help they get from the white man, they will always bite the hand that feeds them.
Burn Britain Burn!
You Reap what you Sow.
These riots are the consequences of the Zio New World Order, using multiculturalism to destroy sovereign countries and robbing its citizens of their culture and heritage.
This is pay back for all you commies, socialists, and deluded liberal fools amongst you Brits that supported anti-apartheid movements, which have turned South African into yet another African shithole. The race-card was used by New World Order politicians simply to get the masses to elect them into parliament. The fate of Africa had been determined long before South Africa became an issue."
http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=83183
or any of the screeds from commenters there about how horrible race-mixing is. But no, America sucks so much worse than every other country in the world and nobody will ever convince you otherwise because your confirmation bias on the issue is fundie caliber.
@ rikalous:
Since when was Britain a Nordic country?
Oh, and just wondering, are ethnic minorities disproportionately convicted of crimes anyplace else? Because that is what I was objecting to.
@rizz: although illegal for the INSEE to count, there is a vast majority of north africans in the french prison system (be it "arabs" or blacks). they are also the most hated on in france... it's not xenophobia to america's level, but the hate on is definitely there. since eagleland is so huge on the international level, of course they're by default the most racist fucks ever. but not the only ones by far.
@ Brendan Rizzo:
Or it could just mean that Americans are racist
Fuck you, Rizzo. I'm an American, and I'm not racist.
Brendan, you ever here of of those north-of- England counties collectively known as the Danelaw (Danelagh)? They were once under Danish rule, and a dialect of (Old) Danish lingered in places into the Twentieth Century. During WWII, soldiers from Westmorlandshire (as it then was) who went astray in Norway could make themselves understood to the Norwegians.
Brendan,I forgot to mention that members of minorities are disproportinately convicted and/or killed out of hand just about everywhere. That, and not numbers, is what makes them minorities. Maybe you don't see it because, to you, all Ruritanians look alike. Try being a Baluchi in Pakistan or Iran, a Tamil in Sri Lanka, a Darfuri in Sudan, a Tutsi in Ruanda, a Vainakh in Russia, a native in South America, or any number of other things, and you may be enlightened.
I wish we could find a couple of nice tropical islands where we could send these Moonfront Republicans to form their own little country of Trinity and Teabago, and, since there wouldn't be any low-albedo people there, they could just peel their sissy pink hides doing outdoor labor themselves.
@ Brendan Rizzo:
"He would not have come to harm of any kind, because Europeans do not think that all black men are violent criminals."
Note - you specifically said Europeans there, not Scandinavians / Nordic people!
Just a note, as people keep saying this... you probably know this, but it should be said that being in the majority doesn't mean you can't be oppressed. One just needs to remember apartheid South Africa or Rhodesia/Zimbabwe for an example.
However, the position of Christians in the USA is nothing like the position of black people used to be in those two countries.
The Christians, as all of us here know, are clearly the dominant group in the USA, who are only butthurt because their dominance isn't absolute and total.
@ Brendan:
Yes I am, and I suppose yes we are :D (that you admit it)
Now if you only start thinking through before you make such statements... ;)
@ shykid:
Is that meant for the OP? Because if you're talking to Brendan, your post doesn't make sense. It's not this report that we should be attacking, but rather the racists that misinterpret it.
@Brenden Rizzo
More uninformed hyperbole. You truly think that everything would be heaven if you lived somewhere else, don't you? Have you even been outside of the United States?
"Nordic countries, he would not have been shot, and not just because firearms are mostly illegal there"
Firearms are not mostly illegal in the nordic countries. There isn't one country that I can think of where guns are outright illegal. There are strict regulations in England and Australia but even there they are not illegal. Switzerland, which isn't a nordic country but is in Europe which you think is heaven, requires just about all adult males to own a firearm. Hunting is very popular in all of the Nordic countries and firearms are extremely plentiful. Stop pulling things out of your ass.
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