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I have a cousin who lives in Adelaide, Australia and he thinks the gay agenda is quite strong there. What Oz needs to do is get schools to teach abstinence only education so kids who think they are gay will be encouraged to remain chaste. That way their numbers will go down and they will be politically powerless. Unfortunately if you say anything like that they will call you a bigot and a hater. I would rather be a "hater" in heaven than a liberal in hell

Mikhail, NOM 50 Comments [7/17/2012 3:06:43 AM]
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Grimsoncrow

Now why would they call you that,I wonder?

7/17/2012 3:41:07 AM

michael3ov

Well you certainly don't mind being a moron on earth.

7/17/2012 3:48:52 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

But as far as being an idiot on Earth, all bets are off, eh?

7/17/2012 4:07:03 AM

The_L

What comprehensive sex ed teaches:
- How your own reproductive anatomy works.
- On rare occasions, how the reproductive anatomy of the opposite sex works.
- The fact that "tab A in slot B" is the only natural way to make a baby, and that it doesn't always succeed.
- Failure rates for contraceptives and STD protection, so young people can be informed and know that their decision to have sex or abstain is the right one for them.
- Nothing whatsoever about gay sex.

What abstinence-only "education" teaches:
- A woman's worth lies solely in the status of a small flap of skin between her legs.
- All men are either monsters who rape every woman they can find, or saints who will protect women from the monsters. There are no in-betweens.
- Vague statements that contraceptives fail "sometimes," and a story from a woman who regrets her abortion. No mention is made of the fact that contraceptive failure is rare, or that a lot of women who have abortions don't regret them.
- Nothing whatsoever about how students' own BODIES work.

Guess which one I wish I had.

7/17/2012 4:20:19 AM

Kuno

What Oz needs to do is get schools to teach abstinence only education so kids who think they are gay will be encouraged to remain chaste. That way their numbers will go down[…]

Did I understand that correctly? This guy thinks gay people having (gay) sex would somehow produce more gay people and if they would stay chaste there would be less gays?

Could it be that his parents forgot to give him the speech about the bees and the flowers?

7/17/2012 4:21:58 AM

Filin De Blanc

Yeah, because I'm sure gay kids are going to be really worried about their sex resulting in pregnancy.

7/17/2012 4:32:28 AM

Anon-e-moose

There's a very good reason why it's called 'Adelaid'. Hell, there's even a town in Australia called...:



Twinned with the Japanese village of 'Sukebe Ecchi Hentai!' >:D

(And no, that's not me in that photo, before anyone asks! XP X3 )

7/17/2012 4:32:54 AM

OhJohnNo

"That way their numbers will go down"


7/17/2012 4:34:52 AM

Anonymous

There is no agenda. It's not a choice. You are either gay or not gay and it all comes down to how your brain is wired. Besides, why should it matter when it's between consenting adults?

7/17/2012 4:47:41 AM

Mister Spak

"What Oz needs to do is get schools to teach abstinence only education so kids who think they are gay will be encouraged to remain chaste. "

Given the track record of ignorance only education, Australia will soon be full of gay orgies.

7/17/2012 5:24:54 AM

dionysus

gay will be encouraged to remain chaste. That way their numbers will go down



Biology does not work that way!

7/17/2012 6:07:02 AM

D Laurier

Abstinance Only education is what has led to rampant ignorance about sex, and easyer sexual exploitation of young people.

It promotes the spread of STDs, and leads to unwanted pregnancys.

It does nothig to reduce the rate of homosexuality in a given population.

7/17/2012 6:30:59 AM

Metallic Space Dragon

Yes, just keep telling yourself that gay sex leads to more gay people. It destroys the other argument that gay people shouldn't be able to marry the ones they love because they can't have children. Only one of these is correct. Guess which one?

7/17/2012 6:35:33 AM

Doubting Thomas

...kids who think they are gay will be encouraged to remain chaste. That way their numbers will go down...

Um... I don't know how to tell you this, but gay people don't reproduce with each other.

7/17/2012 6:45:18 AM

Brendan Rizzo

See, there are fundies in other countries. I acknowledge this. But I do worry that, since fundyism has not been quarantined to one place, that sooner or later fundyism will slowly grow in popularity until one day the thought of the enlightenment will go the way of the old Greek philosophy until it is rediscovered another two millennia hence. Or perhaps I am just paranoid.

7/17/2012 6:49:39 AM

John_in_Oz

No "Love thy neighbour?" To Hell with you.

7/17/2012 7:18:39 AM

Anon-e-moose

"will be encouraged to remain chaste"

'Ooh, chase me, chase me!'

[/Duncan Norvelle] X3

7/17/2012 7:31:59 AM

Zosimus the Heathen

Well, as someone who also hails from Adelaide, Australia, I can't say I've noticed a particularly strong "gay agenda" (whatever the hell that is) here. Admittedly, I hear that my state was the first one in Australia to decriminalize homosexuality, so that might be it; on the other hand, though, there's unfortunately still no shortage of homophobic fuckwits here. Also rather prevalent here, unfortunately, are fundamentalist loonies. Indeed, we've now got our very own bunch of American-style fundies who regularly harangue people in public places, and hold up those cheerful signs listing all the people God hates (pretty much the entire human race) and telling us we're all going to go to hell. Yay!

7/17/2012 7:44:18 AM

Thinking Allowed

...and exactly what will happen to the unwed teenage pregnancy rate?

7/17/2012 7:46:39 AM

Nagol

That's funny, I had abstinence only education in school and I'm still gay.

7/17/2012 8:31:21 AM

moose

"abstinence only education" is not education. It is a moral precept. We can argue whether it is a good thing to encourage young people to have or not have sex. But putting such an argument in school under the colour of religion is quite objectionable. Teach education in school. Leave the morality part to parents/community/philosophy/church (yes, church. NOt that I agree with church teachings all that much, but the proper role of church does not belong in schools).

7/17/2012 8:40:20 AM

Papabear

Teaching abstinence only might make you feel virtuous, but teaching safe sex practices prevents pregancies and disease.

7/17/2012 9:07:54 AM

Zagen30

"Indeed, we've now got our very own bunch of American-style fundies who regularly harangue people in public places, and hold up those cheerful signs listing all the people God hates (pretty much the entire human race)"

In fundieland, it's a well-known fact that God hates everyone who isn't just like you, because you're special and everyone who even slightly disagrees with your beliefs is the spawn of Satan and should burn for eternity for their audacity. It kind of makes you wonder why he bothered creating anyone but you and your like-minded friends and family, if he was just going to be disappointed and incensed by their behavior.

What Oz needs to do is get schools to teach abstinence only education so kids who think they are gay will be encouraged to remain chaste. That way their numbers will go down

Homosexuality is not an infectious disease. Engaging in gay sex does not turn the other person gay; if they willingly had gay sex with you, chances are pretty good they weren't completely hetero to begin with, and if they weren't, then what happened could probably be considered rape, and still won't turn the other party gay (and contrary to the filthy lies that the reactionaries spread, most gay people are not rapists, so you're exceedingly unlikely to experience this).

7/17/2012 9:08:20 AM

LOL @ poster

I live in Adelaide and I for one think there are too many fundies here. In the main shopping street there are regularly crazy people holding up signs about fearing their god. Such clowns

7/17/2012 9:46:16 AM

werewolf

Haven't you heard? Haters don't go to heaven.

7/17/2012 9:53:21 AM
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