Quote# 88455

Don't listen to this unscientific guy who wrote the this anti [colloidal] silver stuff.
He could be a schill from big pharma.
Did you know that it is illegal to claim that any food substance has any health benefit. You may have heard of sailors in the merchant marines in the old days when they got scurvy they ate lemons, limes or oranges to cure it. Because scurvy is a vitamin c deficiency which is in these fruits.
But guess what if you say lemons cure scurvy you violating the law thanks to big pharma.
Broccolli contains i3c, INDOL 3 CARBINOL which prevents and treats prostate cancer and other cancers. But they want to sell toxic drugs for profit instead. Lycopene in tomatoes for instance there is a myriad of natural substances that build your health found in fruits and vegetables.

eilif, Daily Paul 23 Comments [7/20/2012 6:08:44 AM]
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We're getting a bumper crop of CSTDT quotes this month.

7/20/2012 6:15:21 AM

Brendan Rizzo

So I guess Ron Paul supporters would believe anything but the facts.

If saying that lemons cure scurvy is illegal, then how did that become common knowledge in the first place? That would also go against the Bill of Rights, which, as it was made by the federal government, is the very thing Paulites wish to do away with.

7/20/2012 6:24:22 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

7/20/2012 7:27:52 AM


Oh holy shit! Big pharma is at it again attacking lemons, limes and/or oranges like it attacked Cheerios! Quick! Put this foil hat on and hide in this closet lined with aluminum foil!

7/20/2012 7:32:17 AM

Argle Bargle

And how do we know you're not a schill for colloidal silver companies?

Look, I can throw around baseless accusations too!

7/20/2012 7:57:35 AM


It's only illegal if you can't prove it. You know, like this silver bullshit you spew.

7/20/2012 8:14:14 AM


It probably helps that it's not the lemon itself that's interdicting scurvy, but the ascorbic acid it carries. I don't think it would be illegal to say ascorbic acid thwarts/cures scurvy! Flat-out say it's the LEMONS doing the curing...well, the lime, orange, broccoli, and whale blubber (that's how the Inuit get their C while among the ice floes) groups are going to want a word with you about your undue narrowing.

7/20/2012 8:16:48 AM


Please show your work, Eilif. I'd like you to show the class the law that states that. We'll wait.

7/20/2012 8:19:18 AM

Doubting Thomas

There's a huge difference between saying that a vitamin C deficiency is cured by eating something with vitamin C in it, and claiming that colloidal silver cures cancer.

7/20/2012 8:26:26 AM

Street Sharks

The Jews, Illuminati and Space Reptilians have conspired against Ron Paul and lemons. Won't you sheeple wake up!

7/20/2012 9:33:20 AM


One huge [citation needed]

7/20/2012 9:35:35 AM


Of course, lemons and broccoli don't turn you blue. Just saying.

7/20/2012 9:44:59 AM


Um... It's legal to say all that stuff.

Unfortunately, it's also legal to say a totally untested drug will make your penis bigger.

7/20/2012 10:39:57 AM


"Did you know that it is illegal to claim that any food substance has any health benefit."

No. It's illegal to claim that any substance, food or otherwise, can treat or prevent an illness without first receiving FDA approval, which requires independent safety testing and proof of its effectiveness in the form of double-blind clinical trials. That's how evidence-based medicine works. There is no evidence that colloidal silver does anything except poison you and turn your skin a ghastly shade of blue-grey. That has nothing to do with "big pharma." Hell, if colloidal silver actually worked, then it would have received FDA approval by now, and the pharmaceutical industry would be cashing in on it.

7/20/2012 2:21:10 PM


There are indeed substances in fruits and veggies that are anti-cancer. However, it's almost impossible to eat enough of the plant source to have have an effect on an aggressive cancer, because the chemicals just aren't concentrated enough. Hence the need for pharma to extract and concentrate said chemicals. I would not care to eat large quantities of yew bark, for example. Steve Jobs wouldn't be dead if he hadn't wasted time screwing around with alternative medicine.

7/20/2012 4:15:28 PM


What is it with these proponents of colloidal silver? Do they ALL want to join the Blue Man Group?

7/20/2012 7:14:17 PM


I have to say first of all that I have very little comfort in any drug that is approved by the FDA either. Every year they approve drugs that have horrible side effects that kill people and this is why there is a total industry for Lawyers to sue them. The FDA will never approve the use of any kind of herbal drug because it can be grown or gotten at a reasonable price. There are documented cases of people who survived cancer and other illness by the use of herbal medicine. My husband is one of them. He should have been dead two years ago of bladder cancer and because our insurance would not pay for the horrible surgery that was supposed to cure him we turned to herbals. He has no signs of cancer at this time. At the same time we had two friends who also were diagnosed with bladder cancer. The first one was given huge does of chemo and radiation and was dead within six months. The second was subjected to several massive surgeries, chemo and radiation and died within 10 months. Both suffered horribly although they both were taking a cocktail of cancer drugs that nearly bankrupted their spouses. There are snake oil salesmen out there in the herbal industry for sure but no one can ever tell me that there are not cures for things that the FDA will continue to try to keep from the American people. Think about it. Do you even realize how much money the drug companies, hospitals, DRs , and all the others related to this industry would loose if there was a cure for cancer, diabetes and other such diseases found? They have too much to loose and that is the real reason why they continue to make people think there is a boogeymen in the homeopathic industry. Truth is there is in both sides of this coin and only your own research will ever provide you with the health care you really need to beat the odds.

7/20/2012 8:15:07 PM


I want eilif on the cover of Newsweek with a broccoli head and the headline "CURE FOR CANCER FOUND".

7/21/2012 3:40:27 AM


Ok, lets clear that money issue.
Do you know which drug has generated the most profit for "Big Pharma" in all history?
Something you can get out of a plant. The natural version is harder on the stomach than the chemically altered version you get in pills, but if you're not making a chronic use it won't harm you. Nothing keeps you from planting a couple of willow trees. Big Pharma doesn't care.

7/21/2012 4:56:42 AM


7/21/2012 8:19:49 AM


@ catnjb

Cancer will sometimes go into remission on its own for reasons that are not well understood, even without any treatment at all. It's entirely possible your husband's cancer would have disappeared by drinking bath water.

The FDA has nothing against drugs derived from plants. Some very effective drugs have come from plants. But if a company makes a claim that their product has a certain affect, they had better be prepared to show emperical proof that it does what they claim.

I'd encourage anyone who thinks the FDA is a big bad to have a look into the event that prompted the law that gave the administration the power to regulate safety and effectiveness testing, the Elixir Sulfanilamide disaster. A drug company mixed antibiotics in a poisonous solvent and sold it to the public with no testing required. Over 100 people died before it was recalled, and it's amazing there weren't more.


Start from the posts on the bottom if you're curious enough to read. The FDA has a synopsis here:


Are there mistakes? Yes. But the pharmaceutical market receieves a hell of a lot more oversight than the herbal supplements market, where companies aren't even required to have the contents of the bottle match what's on the label.

Are there good herbals out there? Probably. But as an industry, the herbal supplement market is a disgraceful sham mostly concerned with separating people from their money.

7/21/2012 3:18:41 PM


@catnjb: You're a fool.

"It's all about making money" is the only idiotic excuse paranoid dimwits can come up with to "explain" why doctors, drug companies and the FDA don't hail your bogus remedies as miracle cures. Lemme 'splain to you just how stupid that is.

You really think doctors don't get sick? That they don't die, and that their friends and family are likewise immune to cancer, heart disease, stroke, etc.?

Are drug-company researchers, or executives for that matter, immune to disease? Are FDA officials?

So when all these people do get sick, where do they go for treatment? If it really is all a big conspiracy, then they would know that your herbal crap will save them. They themselves wouldn't take their own treatment.

But they do. They do. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but you can bet that every doctor, drug-maker and regulator wants to get the very best care available when his or her own life is on the line. Money does you no good if you're dead.

7/23/2012 12:28:08 AM

It does

it does if it goes to your family. just sayin

7/24/2012 1:53:21 PM

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