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Sec. 4. RELIGIOUS TESTS. No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

Texas, Texas state constitution, Article I 70 Comments [7/22/2012 5:16:50 AM]
Fundie Index: 77
Submitted By: emau99
WTF?! || meh

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Wait, what? No atheists allowed in Texas?

7/22/2012 5:26:53 AM


Does Uma Thurman count?

7/22/2012 5:34:44 AM


"...provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."


7/22/2012 6:01:48 AM


They can have any colour they like, as long as it's black...

7/22/2012 6:03:24 AM


Wait...is that seriously in their Constitution?! ....Just when I thought Texas could sink no lower. For shame.

7/22/2012 6:05:11 AM

Filin De Blanc

Wait, how did this happen? Did someone seriously secretly amend the Texas constitution?

7/22/2012 6:09:11 AM


provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being.

Well, it looks like I'm on board.

1. I'm male (it says "he").

2: I believe in a Supreme Being:

7/22/2012 6:11:14 AM


In other words, you can run for office and we won't ask if you believe in god or not, as long as you believe in god and acknowledge it publicly so that we know for sure.

I'd personally love to see this challenged and then see the Supreme Court force Texas to amend it for being unconstitutional. It's just that it's Texas so nobody has bothered to challenge it yet, which would be tantamount to stating you're an atheist--or a Muslim--neither of which would get you elected, so everybody keeps their mouth shut.

7/22/2012 6:35:00 AM

Jeff Weskamp

"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office...

"...provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being."

And just how will the State of Texas learn if the candidate believes in a "Supreme Being?"

By using a religious test.

7/22/2012 6:37:54 AM


Well ok, if you insist. I was thinking of Cthulhu.

7/22/2012 6:43:58 AM


When you think your state can't embarrass you any more then it has . . .

7/22/2012 6:44:00 AM


Contradict much?

Just wait until that gets challenged in a Federal Court.

7/22/2012 6:48:55 AM


No religious test.. except for the religious test.


7/22/2012 6:51:00 AM

Brendan Rizzo

Talk about doublethink. Why America, why?! Does any country in Europe have religious tests for office? There truly is no hope for American secularism, is there.

I think I should take a break from FSTDT for a little bit, because I think the fundies are driving me crazy. Their claims are actually starting to make sense, even though I know perfectly well that they are complete bollocks. After all, how can we rationalists be sure that our methods are better than theirs? On their own fora, the fundies laugh at us rational people in the very same way that we mock them here. I think the sheer stupidity of current American politicians is making me go off the deep end. I need to clear my head in order to deal with all this extreme wingnuttery.

7/22/2012 6:54:29 AM


Actually a lot of 18th century deists were pretty bigoted against atheists - like Voltaire, who also happened to be a racist, homophobic antifeminist (just using him as example). The watchmaker analogy and the appeal to morality to "prove" god are originally deist stuff, not fundie. It's probably a bad idea to idealise people from 2-3 hundred years ago, no matter how ahead of their time.

Edit: oh yes, Robespierre was an asshole too of course.

7/22/2012 6:55:35 AM


'Scuse me?

7/22/2012 7:03:31 AM

Arctic Knight

" no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
US Constitution, Article VI, para 3

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."
US Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2

The US Constitution trumps the Texas Constitution in all matters where there is a conflict.

7/22/2012 7:13:36 AM


@Brendan: Exactly what I was thinking. You've been slowly going insane due to this site - I suggest use ChromeNanny to block it for a bit (like I did with the Guardian's music section, because of the fucking comments), then come back when you think you can take it again.

7/22/2012 7:40:22 AM


All praise the FSM! May his noodley appendages touch your heart!


7/22/2012 7:46:45 AM


So...if I worship Princess Celestia is that okay with Texas?

7/22/2012 7:51:34 AM


Was this written under the authority of the Department of Redundancy Department?

7/22/2012 8:07:04 AM


Texas is really messed up.

7/22/2012 9:26:30 AM

Doubting Thomas

I'm actually surprised that the Texas constitution doesn't say that no religious test for office will be required as long as the candidate acknowledges Jesus as personal lord and savior.

7/22/2012 9:32:38 AM


There is a contradiction there.

7/22/2012 10:06:04 AM


So female atheists are okay. Glad we got that settled.

Now, if Obama became an atheist and got a sex change, could she... oh no, there's that 'black' thing. Sorry.

7/22/2012 10:31:41 AM
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