Quote# 8848

Creation supporters have no problem with science...it is the evolution supporters that do. Were it otherwise, they wouldn't have to use the courts to impose their religion upon the rest of us.

btw - isn't that a violation of the 1st amendment? Seems to me that the government is establishing a religion by forcing our kids to be indoctrinated into a belief system that is a pack of lies.

Timberwolf, Free Conservatives 21 Comments [1/3/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Oh boy.


Sorry, no, I'm speechless.

1/4/2006 11:17:25 AM

The Last Conformist

Mirror Award

1/4/2006 12:34:42 PM


You dumb fuck.

1/4/2006 1:52:31 PM


Fucking ironic. :|

Free Conservatives has a habit of making the most ignorant and racist pieces of shit moderators on their forums.

1/4/2006 2:37:51 PM


\"Seems to me that the government is establishing a religion by forcing our kids to be indoctrinated into a belief system that is a pack of lies.\"

Interesting description of 'religion.'

1/4/2006 3:46:14 PM

David D.G.

Assertions like this one leave me just sputtering with indignation. As I've said before, the fundies are the ones who lied, tricked, and bullied their unscientific nonsense into science classrooms against constitutional law; and now they have the gall to complain when champions of education, science, and constitutionality take the only recourse left to them, and the proper response to the fundies' illegal acts: the courts!

As to the assertion that creationists favor science more than evolutionists, let's just take a look at the science journals and see what sort of ratio there is for creation-friendly articles vs. evolutionary ones; it is a ratio of 0:1 (i.e., entirely the latter, none of the former), so this guy's statement is in stupefying opposition to reality.

Mirror Award seconded!

~David D.G.

1/4/2006 3:48:30 PM


You, sir, are a fucking idiot.

The court's ruling was simple: Science can be taught in science class. Religion cannot. Evolution is science, creationism is not (nor is its thinly-disguised cousin, intelligent design).

Mirror Award isn't a bad idea for this one, though there may be better examples.

1/4/2006 4:32:47 PM


Mirror Award

1/4/2006 4:38:19 PM


Um, Timberwolf? Reality is thataway. No, no, turn around.

1/4/2006 5:52:22 PM

King Spirula

Of course creation supporters have no problem with science...as long as they get to define it like they have in Kansas. (Oh, and as long as the evidence doesn't contradict the bible about the age of the earth, the fossil record, the origin of species, the flood, etc....ah, fuck it! Creationists hate science).

1/4/2006 6:26:21 PM

Darth Wang

I also say Mirror award

1/4/2006 7:53:26 PM


Timberwolf: Plenty of people still believe in creationsim/intelligent design, even in spite of the \"indoctrination\" you're screaming about. Go find another pet cause.

1/5/2006 3:03:47 AM


I wish that I had studied the human mind, so that I might know how this mirroring works.

I have seen so many people write what would be profound insights into their own situation, if only they were not directing them at others.

1/5/2006 10:17:27 AM


I actually replied in this thread a while ago. It's still tumbleweeding after I mentioned that disproving generic historical research techniques and evidence might implicate disproving historical research on Christianity and the Bible.

I guess that just says enough about that place really :P

1/5/2006 1:21:03 PM


Surely he meant to bind that with a pair of parens, like so:

\"Seems to me that the government is establishing a religion (by forcing our kids to be indoctrinated into a belief system) that is a pack of lies.\"


Further, the reason that science teachers need to use the legal system to get I.D. out of their classrooms is that the I.D. supporters have moved unilaterally to get it into the classrooms in the first place. If the Dover area school board had actually, you know, consulted the people who elected them, then perhaps they wouldn't have said \"Students will be made aware of gaps/problems in Darwinfs theory and of other theories of evolution including, but not limited to, intelligent design. Note: Origins of Life is not taught.\". Perhaps they wouldn't have all been voted out in the next election. If that were the case, then this would all be moot.

The one legitimate gripe I can see about the whole Dover thing is that the statement they would have required teachers to read was actually fairly mild. They don't seem to have been requiring that I.D. actually be taught in class, just mentioned.

1/5/2006 4:59:44 PM


Mirror Award? How about the Darwin Award. This is given out for those who remove themselves from the gene pool in the most idiotic way possible thus doing the rest of humanity a favor.

1/8/2006 10:01:18 PM


BTW, Evolution is not about the origin of life. It is about the origin of species. Abiogenesis is about the origin of life.

1/8/2006 10:03:23 PM

The Great Chuck Norris

I wonder what the world will be like 200 years from now when all those free conservatives die, and free conservatives is left in the dust, and one day someone just finds it and goes there after a search engine.

I wonder what that person will say.

1/9/2006 4:47:58 AM


I do agree that ID-fundies have no problem with science - since they have no grasp about the subject at all!! Especially when Timberwolf compare science with religion!
I become really concerned with the quality of the education system when I hear these kind of arguments...

1/9/2006 10:31:51 PM


I've been overexposed to FC. It's just not funny anymore.

1/13/2006 8:08:40 AM


Every time I hear \"Creationism is science, evolution isn't\" I die a little inside.

12/4/2006 12:15:28 AM

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