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['The biblical god is depicted as a genocidal maniac, killing children and babies who were 'wicked' according to him.']

The thing is, our God is a just God, one that cannot allow sin. The people he destroyed in the flood were Murderers, Rapists, Scoffers, and many others. That world was destroyed because of their disobedience to God, and this one will soon end as well, because of the state of it.

Before you decide to call my God a killer, why don't you consider that you wouldn't even exist if it weren't for him.

Chaos Sayajin, Naruto Forums 32 Comments [1/4/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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The Last Conformist

And how, pray tell, does a baby murder, rape, or scoff?

1/4/2006 2:11:52 PM

Bob

Also, if this guys God knows everything and can do anything, how can he not prevent evil?

1/4/2006 2:32:50 PM

The Great Chuck Norris

^^^^

Good question, but they will always speak the same BS \"Because he doesn't want to\" or \"Beacause Evil is a result of man\"

1/4/2006 2:36:43 PM

TheAmazingToby

Actually, it's because God gave us free will. I think things would have been better if he'd instead given us free beer.

1/4/2006 4:07:32 PM

Crosis

The silliest part of this post has to be equating \"scoffers\" with real criminals. If disbelief is on the same level as murder, your God has some seriously fucked-up priorities.

1/4/2006 4:24:51 PM

DrunkMonkey

\"Before you decide to call my God a killer, why don't you consider that you wouldn't even exist if it weren't for him.\"

So... If I can create something, I can kill it and not be a killer? I guess if I ever feel the need to murder I'll have to father the offspring myself or make some clones or something.

1/4/2006 4:35:30 PM

Darth Wang

Prove that your God created me.

1/4/2006 7:49:27 PM

Nekhbet

By this logic it would be better if I murdered one of my own children for a trivial reason, say talking back, than if I killed a stranger. Sure, works for me. Goodbye Bob.

1/5/2006 1:22:19 AM

Coffee

\"Before you decide to call my God a killer, why don't you consider that you wouldn't even exist if it weren't for him.\"

So your God created me in order to kill me?

1/5/2006 1:09:35 PM

Questioning


Generally a \"Killer\" is someone who kills, Deary........By this measure, God amply applied(s) Himself.

1/5/2006 1:59:18 PM

Thief of time

Power Corrupts. Absolute Power corrupts absolutely.

God can be no different... unless he is not absolutely powerful.

1/9/2006 1:39:23 AM

TDR

Crosis - exactly. That point has long made me see red.

1/9/2006 9:10:40 PM

g-21-lto

Ah, yes, those murdering, raping, scoffing children and infants.

1/14/2006 5:32:13 PM

CousinTed

Well technically, I wouldn't be here if not for my parents, yet I don't think that gives them the right to kill me.

1/15/2006 2:15:58 AM

Onuris

WHAT THE FUCK HAS A BABY DONE YOU 10 CENT CRACK WHORE

1/16/2006 2:36:32 AM

WritingIsMyReligion

I do not believe that any truly just \"god\" would kill \"sinners.\" If he would, then he is not a \"God\" I would ever worship.

1/16/2006 5:07:09 PM

........<3

The reason god doesn't just prevent evil is cause he doesn't want us to be mindless puppets, he gives us all free will. And us, in our sinful nature , make wrong disions for selfish ambitions and do stupid stuff.

1/26/2006 4:00:51 AM

<3<3

\"Prove that your God created me\"


prove that he didn't. I can't give you phisical evidence. But how could we have been made, so complex , if no one created us? did something just blow up and poof, we were all here? and if so, what caused it? if nothing was here , how did the something that was blown up blow up? and where did it come from? Why are we here? were we just an accendent?. If nothing we do here matters , why shouhld we obey rules, right? why don't we all just live for ourselves? whats our purpose? And lets just say for the sake of an argument that christianity is 100% true. that without jesus we'll go to hell. that god is just holding his hand out to save us and all we have to do is grab it, but we don't and we do go to hell. what then? what if your wrong? what if my faith, christianity is truth. are you willing to take that chance?

1/26/2006 4:11:16 AM

CT

Pascals Wager... it doesn't work.


What is Islam is true?

1/26/2006 5:43:22 AM

Crosis

<<< prove that he didn't. >>>

Argument from ignorance. The burden of proof is on you, because you're the one making the extraordinary claim.

<<< Why are we here? were we just an accendent?. If nothing we do here matters , why shouhld we obey rules, right? why don't we all just live for ourselves? whats our purpose? >>>

Why obey rules? Because this world is all we get, so we might as well make the best of it. And if we're trying to screw each other over and fighting only for ourselves, then we're all worse off. So we agree to certain basic rules of social behavior (don't kill, don't steal, etc.) because doing so makes things better for everyone.

Our purpose is simply what we make it. We don't need the universe to give us a Meaning of Life; we make our own.

<<< And lets just say for the sake of an argument that christianity is 100% true. that without jesus we'll go to hell. that god is just holding his hand out to save us and all we have to do is grab it, but we don't and we do go to hell. what then? what if your wrong? what if my faith, christianity is truth. are you willing to take that chance? >>>

Replace \"Christianity\" with \"Islam\" or virtually any other religion that has some sort of eternal hell (many do, if for no other reason than that it helps keep the faithful in line). The argument is just as useful there - that is to say, not at all.

BTW, Hell is the single biggest argument against Christianity. There is no way a deity that creates a place of eternal torture and condemns the majority of his creations to it could be considered either just or benevolent (the former because our sins, however numerous they may be, must still be finite because we only have so long to screw up; the latter for obvious reasons).

1/26/2006 5:57:32 AM

...<3

you make your own purpose? so we all live here, get ahead , die ,then what? Your right, you could replace \"christianity\" with other religions. But try to have an open mind here. I wish i could better explain it. i'm 14 years old, give me a break. Have you ever read the bible? ever had someone sit down and answer questions and explain it for you? If not you should get someone who can cause i'm not that person. I've had god answer so many prayers, how do you explain that? coincidence? christianity isn't harder to except than any other religion. But i know it's the truth. I've seen jesus change peoples lives for the better.can Islam or any other religions say that? And i don't know , maybe you've had a bad expreience with a hypocritical christian, we're not perfect. I know you can probably think of a come-back to anything i write, same for me, so i'm gonna end it here. I love Jesus, i'm going to continue following him. I was only making the argument cause i wanted other people to have a chance to give him a chance because christ is awesome.

1/26/2006 6:14:22 PM

Caphi

Good morning to you too, Mr. ...<3. How are you enjoying your time on FStDT?

1/26/2006 6:23:46 PM

blayzekohime

By this logic, you should be okay if your mother or father is a mass murderer and not raise a finger to oppose them. The children of several famous dictators would like to speak to you.

8/16/2010 3:33:07 PM

What'd I Do

You don't love Jesus.

Jesus is not real.

Nor is God.

You "love" the fictional character that has been implanted into your mind by society and preachers with an agenda. I quote "love" because it's the same thing as teenage girls tripping all over What's His Butt from the Twilight movies.

10/31/2010 12:47:44 PM

Jake

"You don't love Jesus. Oh wait, yes you obviously do, because I can see it.

Jesus Christ is not physical, he lives in angelic plane. Angels most often communicate by manipulating believers' imaginations. That statement cannot be disproved.

Ultimate being or liar, Yahweh is in that plane too.

You love the character that has been placed in your mind by society and preachers. As all of us have seen, some preachers have an agenda. An essence of Edward Cullen probably lives in the angelic plane, ready to talk to the girls who follow him as blindly as fundies follow Jesus. I can't explain that now."

Fixed it for you from my own new age/pagan beliefs. The problem with this site is that many of the commenters are textbook cases of pots calling kettles black. Too many quotes here are people making fun of actual peaceful Christians.

6/13/2011 12:43:26 AM
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