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At the end of his life, Pasteur admitted that his theory was a fraud. He said that it was not the germs that mattered, but the medium in which they lived. And yet, his so-called "work" is the basis of the whole medical model of disease and healing.

The Germ theory CANNOT account for the fact that if you expose 100 people to what he called "pathogenic bacteria" that 10 of the people in that room will NOT DEVELOP THE DISEASE. It's not that germs cause disease at all. The pH of those people's bodies' was not acidic enough to support the transformation of the germ into a bacteria, fungus or virus. Because the germ never mutates, the person never gets sick.

Because of what I know about Louis Pasteur and The Germ Theory, there is no way that I will allow myself to be treated by a medical doctor trained in the United States or other Western countries. Their diagnoses and treatments inevitably make the patient sicker by plunging the body into an even more acidic state, and encouraging the more rapid transformation of microbes into deadly pathogens.

eilif, Daily Paul 29 Comments [7/24/2012 10:15:42 AM]
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"At the end of his life, Pasteur admitted that his theory was a fraud."

Two things... first: [Citation well and truly fucking needed for that shit since it's amazing how often people try to claim that someone who came up with a theory said it was rubbish at the end of their life]

Second: even if Pasteur did admit that, all the evidence since then has shown that the theory is basically correct, so Pasteur would simply be wrong about it being a fraud.

7/24/2012 10:38:27 AM

John_in_Oz

I regard your early death as evolution in action.

7/24/2012 11:19:01 AM

fishtank

enjoy a quick death then.

7/24/2012 11:26:51 AM

Voidarmour

Even if it was a fraud (which is about as likely as Hitler becoming the next US president), it turns out that after other people did some more research the theory was right anyway, so who cares.

Somehow I suspect that the people who have an immunity or don't display symptoms of one disease aren't safe from all of them - whilst a common factor grants resistance to both bubonic plague and HIV, that doesn't make you safe from the flu.

Still, good look with avoiding medicine. You know, I bet if you drank Sodium Hydroxide you'd be really healthy, since that's the opposite of an acid (SERIOUS NOTE: Don't do this. It's a really really really bad idea)

7/24/2012 12:02:40 PM

Veras_the_Brujah

I think this might be a Poe. It's on a news magazine inspired by Ron Paul, who is a doctor.

7/24/2012 12:52:09 PM

Rhowena

It's not that germs cause disease at all.

Except that you aren't even saying that. The need for specific conditions is tangential at best to the idea that diseases come from microbes and not demonic possession or an imbalance of one's four humors.

7/24/2012 1:05:14 PM

Reynardine

For your brilliant brain on pathology... I award you the Leaden Pea.

7/24/2012 1:05:27 PM



You don't like doctors? Then what are you doing on a Ron Paul fan site?

7/24/2012 1:39:27 PM

Nerikull

Germ Theory? Is that you, Cassiterides?


7/24/2012 2:26:45 PM

jsonitsac

Yes, Ron Paul is a doctor, however, he has been known to promote the "health freedom" agenda -abolishing the FDA, promoting "natural cures" etc. That his followers hold such views don't come as a shock to me.

7/24/2012 3:47:49 PM

Micharion

How have none of you noticed that this idiot suggested that a germ can mutate to a fungus?

7/24/2012 3:55:23 PM

ScrappyB

It's because some people are genetically resistant to certain diseases. Kinda like how people who are heterozygous for sickle cell anemia are resistant to malaria.

Germs is a catch-all term for bacteria, viruses and fungal spores. As far as one mutating into the other, that's about as likely as a human mutating into a palm tree.

7/24/2012 5:23:04 PM

The Anonymous

"...there is no way that I will allow myself to be treated by a medical doctor trained in the United States or other Western countries."

Not even Dr. Ron Paul?

7/24/2012 5:26:17 PM

myheadhurts

and that is why more people today are dropping dead from infections than ever before...

The growing environment and the immune system responses are very important, and yes it is true that someone with a poor diet may unwittingly provide a nicer place for germs to spawn... but pH? How was this tested, what experiments can be listed?

7/24/2012 5:56:44 PM

anevilmeme

"....there is no way I will allow myself to be treated by a medical doctor...."


Fundies you wanted to see natural selection at work? Well this is it.

7/24/2012 6:51:06 PM

Papabear

So, the next time you get seriously ill, cure yourself by sucking on a lemon... or else, be a fraud.

7/24/2012 9:12:30 PM

J. James

"The Germ theory CANNOT account for the fact that if you expose 100 people to what he called "pathogenic bacteria" that 10 of the people in that room will NOT DEVELOP THE DISEASE."

Shhhh. No one tell him of the existence of the immune system, or god forbid, extremophile bacteria that can easily survive acids in the human stomach, much less the blood!

It may make his tiny tiny little mind explode.

7/24/2012 11:25:18 PM

michael3ov

Thankfully natural selection will soon rid us of your stupidity.

7/25/2012 12:15:02 AM

michael3ov

@Veras_the_Brujah

Paulbots are some of the most insane conspiracy theorists out there.

Also, Ron Paul is a fervent supporter of woo of all sorts.

I am sure this is not a poe.

7/25/2012 12:24:58 AM

michael3ov

@The Anonymous

If I'm not mistaken I believe Ron Paul is a gynaecologist.

7/25/2012 12:26:28 AM

Ebon

Darwin Award in waiting here, I feel.

7/25/2012 4:58:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

At the end of his life, Pasteur admitted that his theory was a fraud.

Just like how Darwin admitted that evolution was a fraud on his deathbed, hmm? Next I expect to hear that Einstein admitted on his deathbed that the theory of relativity was a fraud.

if you expose 100 people to what he called "pathogenic bacteria" that 10 of the people in that room will NOT DEVELOP THE DISEASE.

Because some people, for whatever reason, are naturally resistant to certain germs. But what you fail to realize is that the other 90 people in your scenario got sick.

to support the transformation of the germ into a bacteria, fungus or virus.

I'm not sure exactly what you think happens with bacteria, fungi, or viruses, but I'm guessing you failed biology in high school.

Because of what I know about Louis Pasteur and The Germ Theory

Which is apparently all dangerously flawed.

there is no way that I will allow myself to be treated by a medical doctor trained in the United States or other Western countries.

Fine. Get sick and die. That's Darwinism at work.

7/25/2012 6:27:43 AM

Skyknight

Bah. I'd expect that if anything, all Pasteur "admitted" was that he'd given the state of the tissue too little consideration. Not repudiating the germ theory, but rather having thoughts that it wasn't enough BY ITSELF. i.e. a sufficiently healthy tissue can repel dangerous germs anyway. There's the question of whether the health is a matter of not enough of certain nutrients and/or mild germs diverting defenses, though.

7/25/2012 8:28:28 AM

fishtank

silly person.

7/25/2012 1:26:48 PM

Madbull

"At the end of his life, Ron Paul renounced his beliefs in fungobacteria and accepted real Science."


Fixed

7/25/2012 7:23:10 PM
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