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(Corrected the author's name, author is Doug Wilson--not Fred Wilson)

Because we have forgotten the biblical concepts of true authority and submission, or more accurately, have rebelled against them, we have created a climate in which caricatures of authority and submission intrude upon our lives with violence.

When we quarrel with the way the world is, we find that the world has ways of getting back at us. In other words, however we try, the sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party. A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts. This is of course offensive to all egalitarians, and so our culture has rebelled against the concept of authority and submission in marriage. This means that we have sought to suppress the concepts of authority and submission as they relate to the marriage bed.

But … our banished authority and submission comes back to us in pathological forms. This is what lies behind sexual “bondage and submission games,” along with very common rape fantasies. Men dream of being rapists, and women find themselves wistfully reading novels in which someone ravishes the “soon to be made willing” heroine. Those who deny they have any need for water at all will soon find themselves lusting after polluted water, but water nonetheless.

--from Fidelity: What it Means to be a One-Woman Man, by Douglas Wilson

Doug Wilson, Slacktivist 41 Comments [7/26/2012 3:41:41 AM]
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Hey Doug Wilson why don't you go fuck yourself.

7/26/2012 4:09:52 AM

gravematter

Right... "the sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party". Well that's clearly not true. The existence of the clitoris is proof enough of the possibility of mutual sexual gratification. Oh, and so is the fact that most normal adults have had many "egalitarian pleasuring parties", without having to try very hard at all. I think there may just be a tiny element of projection here. You may never have been able to satisfy a woman but that's probably because you're a misogynistic dullard. Your meagre experience is not representative of the rest of the human race's, thankfully. I'll also point out that bondage and submission games are not remotely one-sided as you seem to believe. Many men like to be bound and submissive, and many women like to be dominant. Have you never heard the term "dominatrix"?

7/26/2012 4:22:41 AM

Reynardine

There are some truly charming ladies I'd like you to meet, including Mary Sunshine.

7/26/2012 4:35:41 AM

anevilmeme

Translation: you're never getting any.

7/26/2012 4:44:22 AM

Filin De Blanc

So I guess all the submissive men are shit out of luck?

7/26/2012 5:21:36 AM

Mister Spak

Here ya go dougie.

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=88543

7/26/2012 5:31:44 AM

dionysus

A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts

You've never done it cowgirl style have you? The woman is pretty much in charge and you know what? It's fun.

Men dream of being rapists

Don't project your sick dreams onto the rest of us normal people, asshole! I for one cannot stand rape, even in the context of porn where I know that it's just fantasy. You want rape? Go get fucked by a giant prison inmate.

7/26/2012 6:11:37 AM

fishtank

So when my fiancee was on top of me yesterday, how exactly did I conquer her? ^^

You sick fucks.

7/26/2012 6:12:27 AM

Hasher

I quite enjoy woman-on-top as well as other positions. I like a partner who's at least as active and enthiusiastic as I am.

Women's "rape fantasies" (for those women who have them, far from all do!) are in their own minds and therefore under their own control. They are as different from real rape as men's heoic fantasies are from really being in a battle, disaster or whatever. What's fun to daydream about isn't the same as what we really want.

7/26/2012 6:18:53 AM

Anon-e-moose

Fact: Men pay good money to Dominatrixes.

Your argument is invalid.

7/26/2012 6:38:15 AM

Doubting Thomas

...along with very common rape fantasies. Men dream of being rapists...

Something you want to tell us, Doug? At any rate I sure hope your local police are keeping an eye on you.

7/26/2012 7:12:06 AM

freako104

This is wrong on many levels. Doug Wilson is a fail.

7/26/2012 7:40:17 AM

RW2

"Men dream of being rapists...."

Well, apparently we've found one asshole who dreams that. What sick fucks these fundigelicals are.

And BDSM can entail the man being submissive, either with a woman, a couple, another man or even a group. There are all sorts of combinations possible, so yes, the "sex act" can be not only pleasurable, but quite consensual. Rapist fuck.

7/26/2012 7:48:40 AM

Ebon

You fuckwit.

7/26/2012 8:08:02 AM

Meeeh

Men dream of being rapists...

As a man in his fifties I can truly say I have never had such a dream - not once!

You see, I love sex and rape has absolutely NOTHING to do with sex! Rape is the disgusting violence of another human being and you have to be mentally fucked up to think it has anything to do with sex!

7/26/2012 8:32:49 AM

Indicible

Okay... What's next? Sex is like cutting wood, you do it once a year to get rid of the chore?

As for bondage, BDSM and general kinkiness, you should try it with a consenting interested partner: you would stop talking about things you know jacksh*t about.

7/26/2012 9:29:43 AM

LAchlan

Ok darling, lift up your petticoats, I'm going to colonise you!
What the fuck is this guy on?

7/26/2012 10:18:47 AM

Skyknight

A man "colonizes"...? So there's no possibility of the woman summoning, then? I'm confident that that is NOT the case.

7/26/2012 10:31:44 AM

Meishayuri

There are so many colorful, poetic, lyrical ways I would like to use to say a heartfelt "fuck you" to this Doug Wilson, but he doesn't deserve the effort or time.

Fuck you Wilson, your dick is not gold.

7/26/2012 10:57:19 AM

Liz

One of my friends put herself through college as a dominatrix. Not only did she pay off her loans, but she was wearing $200 corsets todo it.

7/26/2012 11:52:11 AM

checkmate

A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts.

Yup. The man is always dominant. It's God's will.



Men dream of being rapists

No. The very idea makes me sick. You're totally disgusting.

Go get therapy. Now.

7/26/2012 12:49:30 PM

Blue the Thief



*Sees checkmate's post*


7/26/2012 1:17:57 PM

Often Partisan

"women find themselves wistfully reading novels in which someone ravishes the “soon to be made willing” heroine."

I've read feminist critiques of these novels so i vote you fail

7/26/2012 1:22:28 PM

Jeff Weskamp

Anyone want to bet that this guy jerks off over those Gor novels in his spare time?

7/26/2012 1:34:28 PM

Canuovea

...Bull. Shit.

7/26/2012 1:49:53 PM
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