Quote# 88571

[About the attack by a lone gunman on a Colorado theater which left 12 dead and 50 wounded.]

A false flag incident perhaps, FBI has already made the statement he is not been tied to terrorist group or intent or in non PC speak Islamofascism. Not that I trust what the FBI will tell us anyways. Guy could be a KOOK! with no motive other then to cause harm and death. But much like another attempt to take away or erode our 2nd amendment FAST AND FURIOUS and the new attempt with Obama admin signing off on the UN Arms Transfer Treaty. (ATT)

This will be used weaken our 2nd amendment right that is for sure by the media and the left in Washington and by the UN.

whotothewhat, Moonbattery 32 Comments [7/27/2012 5:46:10 AM]
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Leighton Buzzard

Moonfront Republicans are very predictable. Personally I don't think you have the right to arm yourself with an ICBM, but what do I know.

7/27/2012 5:53:14 AM

Doubting Thomas

I was wondering when the gun nuts would be claiming this. Seems like every time some nutjob shoots a bunch of people they claim that it's a secret plan by the government to give it a reason to ban guns, even though guns are still legal and plentiful.

7/27/2012 6:37:13 AM

Dr. Razark

Why are you so worried about the UN treaty? It has no effect on you, your right to keep and bear arms, or your ability to buy and sell guns.

Unless you are an international arms dealer.

@Leighton Buzzard
The Second Amendment was provided so that citizens would be able to rise up against an oppressive government. When it was written, every farmer had access to the same equipment as soldiers. A town could group together and provide artillery. The founders had recently won a war against government forces for exactly this reason, and the amendment was provided as a safeguard against tyranny. It follows that the founders of this country intended that citizens should be able to meet government forces on equal footing, if the citizens decided that the government was becoming too oppressive. The government of the United States has, among its forces, ICBMs. In order to even the field, it is your right, no, your duty as a citizen, to keep and bear equivalent levels of armaments.

7/27/2012 6:47:43 AM

Leighton Buzzard

@ Doc Razark: don't suggest such things in the hearing of gun nuts, I beg you, not even in jest.

7/27/2012 7:00:43 AM


Well, this was predictable. @Dr. Razark: The US government also has nuclear weapons. So, according to you, private American citizens should have nuclear weapons? Including any old nutcase off the street, like that guy that shot up the movie theatre last week? The United States has one of the largest military spending budgets in the world. There is NO WAY that an ordinary citizen would be able to keep up with the government's level of weaponry. You are long, long past the stage at which that was feasible.
You have to face the fact that the second amendment is outdated. You should update it or get rid of it.

7/27/2012 8:47:39 AM

The Anonymous

"Guy could be a KOOK! with no motive other then to cause harm and death."

Which he was. There is no motive nor conspiracy to take your guns away, nor do anything else in your paranoid, fascist mindset.

7/27/2012 9:09:41 AM

Dr. Razark

@Leighton Buzzard:
But it's so much fun to get one of them admit that there are limits to what a person should own.

7/27/2012 9:25:33 AM

J. James

@Dr. Razark

That was quite funny. Don't you just love how the go-to excuse of gun nuts is that their firearms are the only thing standing between this nation and tyranny? As if the military would bat an eye at their little armaments. They ignore the TRUE safeguard: democracy. Their twisted little fantasies are right on the line between infinitely amusing and downright scary.

7/27/2012 10:12:04 AM


The US is forever lost in their worshiping at the altar of the Church of NRA.

I have no sympathy for the Aurora victims nor for any of the victims of the next massacres which will take place shortly. The US does absolutely nothing and these massacres takes place at a regular interval. It's simply the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Sorry but I can't be bothered to feel for the victims since the country can't be bothered to deal with the problems causing these massacres.

7/27/2012 12:24:46 PM


@j.james: i'd laugh along, but seeing the results tends to reinforce my pacifism. i like explosions as much as the next guy, but nothing more dangerous than fireworks.

seeing people claiming the need to own a .50cal heavy machine gun, i either want to say "grow up" or "shoot yourself with it first, then we'll talk"

@meeh: a bit harsh, don't you think?

7/27/2012 1:17:26 PM


I never cease to wonder what all the fear of the UN is all about.

7/27/2012 2:48:52 PM


When has a mass shooting in the U.S. EVER been a "false flag" operation?

Fuck you.

7/27/2012 2:51:35 PM


@Meeeeh: And yet, there ARE Americans who are agitating for firearm constriction--they just haven't yet accrued enough support to overturn the NRA's trance over everyone else. What are we supposed to do, play mob justice-and-execution on the NRA and their cohorts?! We're supposed to be swaying the Other, not executing them! Or did you forget they have free will, and so can be persuaded? (Useful tip: Summary judgement, such as the Roman practice of decimation, is ALWAYS a bad thing.)

7/27/2012 3:13:27 PM


\m/>_<\m/ said:
@meeh: a bit harsh, don't you think?

Yes, it is harsh but why should I be required to show emotions when this is a revolving door issue which happens at a regular basis and nothing and I really mean nothing, is ever being down with any of the underlying issues causing these massacres.

So why should I feel any empathy for these victims? Do you have the same empathy with every person who was killed around the world that day? If not, why this one?

7/27/2012 3:50:13 PM

J. James


You should feel sympathy for ALL of them, jackass. Just because some get more attention than others doesn't mean their pain is less real or they deserve your sympathy any less. You monster.

I'm gonna submit that comment. Let's see if your callousness warrants a spotlight on FSTDT.

Edit: I'll be damned. Someone already submitted it.

7/27/2012 4:39:22 PM

JB Mason

Predictable fundie is predictable.

Whenever there's a Democrat in the White House, these guys think they're living in the Matrix. Nothing they see or hear in reality is what it seems, everything is part of a conspiracy against them. Bin Laden wasn't really killed by Seal Team 6, the Long Form Birth Certificate is a forgery, and shit like this was some MK Ultra sleeper agent who was activated to commit a mass murder so that Democrats could get Obama from an across-the-board "F" rating from the Brady Campaign to a solid D-, with a few moderate controls on nutjobs buying an AR15 and 3k rounds of ammo for it. Same with the "Fast and Furious" nonsense. We let Americans be murdered by the Mexican cartels so that Obama could take away your guns.

And yet, he does have that F rating. He, and his administration, and the Dems in the House and Senate, have been some of the biggest friends to gun-owners in decades.

But of course, as we know, that's all just to lull you into a false sense of security, so they can COME AND TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS!!!

7/27/2012 5:27:47 PM


Alex Jones was saying shit like this the night of, saying the columbine was a false flag, some say that the cops went in and killed more people than the shooters did, he also brought up fort hood, norway, Virginia Tech as false flags. Saying that big Pharma are using mind controll drugs in all medicine. But, take 5 seconds to think about it, you'll she that gun laws have become more lient in recent years.

7/27/2012 6:47:26 PM

@ J. James
Here's hoping it gets approved

7/27/2012 8:35:41 PM

Saw that coming.

Is it wrong that one of the first things I think when an atrocity like this occurs is "this'll make for some interesting CSTDT posts"?

How many more mass killings will it take, America, before you get your shit together and realise that such ready availability of firearms is a really bad idea?

7/28/2012 1:03:56 AM

Filin De Blanc

I hope this is used to weaken the second amendment. Because the second amendment just got 12 people killed.

7/28/2012 5:01:39 AM


At Moonfront Republic, they are once more enjoying their champignons. Too bad they have no morels.

7/28/2012 8:01:35 AM


EITHER mass murder as a false flag operation to deprive Amerans of their rights OR the act of a kook?
These do not seem to be alternatives.

7/28/2012 8:20:34 AM

Nomen Nescio

@Leighton: you don't, in fact, have the right to arm yourself with an ICBM. getting permissions from the FAA alone for such a launch would be a royal PITA, never even mind any warhead to ride on the thing.

(fun fact: AFAIK nuclear weapons are probably the only class of weaponry that is actually outright illegal for U.S. citizens to own. everything else may be regulated out of all practicable legal ownership, and/or made too much of a hassle for anyone to get it in reality, but nukes are the only thing that's de jure illegal.)

much as i hate to say this, the only obviously kooky part of this one quote is where the kook implies the recent mass murder might have been any kind of "false flag operation". the rest is mostly surprisingly reasonable --- that public reports of the incident may not be entirely correct no matter what their source, that the perpetrator was likely a lone nutcase, and that the event will be exploited for political ends. really, none of that should be controversial.

the part about any UN treaty is likely wrong, but that can be considered details. that this tragedy is a convenient crisis that won't be left to go to waste is the main point, and likely entirely true.

...and really, people here claiming the <i>second amendment</i> was what killed people in this incident? honestly? i guess we should blame the first amendment for any instances of libel or slander, then, while we're at it. GET A GRIP.

7/28/2012 1:42:46 PM


I love this guy's logic. I swear they are coming up with conspiracies by rolling a D20 against a list of electric bugaloo bullshit hype words in order to continue to sound credible to idiots who believe this bullshit over at Moonfuckery.

7/28/2012 4:14:28 PM

Raised by Horses

@Nomen Nescio

Awesome. I always wanted my own aircraft carrier.

7/28/2012 10:25:54 PM

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