Yes, I condone torturing people forever, but not in a bad way!
1/4/2006 8:58:35 PM
This to me is like, in the words of Eddie Izzard: \"Like some ambassador to a foreign country going up and say: 'Hello! Fuck you all! You're all a bunch of bastards! I hate you personally. [to various advisors] So how'd I do? Oh, that bad? Well what part in...Oh the whole thing.'\"
1/4/2006 9:20:12 PM
There are some atheists who are unnecessarily confrontational, sanctimonious, and rude. There are also quite a few fundies who are the same. Interestingly, I find that this picture applies to a much greater percentage of fundies than atheists (at least in my admittedly limited experience).
I find you to be painting with an extremely broad brush and to be a self-righteous stuck-up prick. But I don't mean that in a bad way.
1/4/2006 10:13:37 PM
\"Unnecessarily confrontational, sanctimoniously arrogant without justification, and rude\" does describe several atheists, but it also describes quite a few fundies as well. (Doctor Doom comes to mind, for one.)
As for this guy's post, it doesn't seem terribly rude, or necessarily all that confrontational, but it is a brilliant example of \"sanctimoniously arrogant without justification\"!
1/4/2006 10:19:15 PM
\"You're going to suffer for all eternity, but in a good way!\"
I'm... not entirely sure how that works.
1/4/2006 11:52:39 PM
Pot, meet kettle.
Secularists have their loudmouthed idiots. So do believers. Get over it.
But I don't mean that in a bad way.
1/5/2006 2:02:42 AM
I think JimB is unnecessarily confrontational, sanctimoniously arrogant without justification, and rude. However, I don't mean that in a bad way, It's just a general observation about the character of JimB.
It's curious how anytime someone disagrees with a fundie, it means they are rude and confrontational...Silly Atheists, using their right of free speech!
1/5/2006 4:47:07 AM
JimB compares atheists to the devil by saying they are both \"unnecessarily confrontational, sanctimoniously arrogant without justification, and rude\"
Well, in the bible, didn't the devil use tactics that weren't directly confrontational, with the disguiseing and all. The bible displays the devils tactics as not these, because the devil's whole plot is to seduce people to his cause, and it is kind of hard to do that while being a pompous ass. So, JimBs equivocation doesn't work, because even if you could paint all atheists with the \"unnecessarily confrontational, sanctimoniously arrogant without justification, and rude\" brush, you can't say that satan was also all of these things.
1/5/2006 11:31:43 AM
This comment was made, of course, immediately after criticizing an \"atheist\" for would resorting to personal attacks.
'Irony meter repair' award anyone?
1/5/2006 5:09:01 PM
Maybe American atheists act this way because they are confronted with American Christian fundies who are all paranoid, intellectually-deficient closet-Nazis...but not, you know, in a bad way.
1/6/2006 2:25:01 PM
Sounds like most christians I've ever gone head-to-head with. I'd only need to add \"blindly ignorant\" to the list of \"unnecessarily confrontational, sanctimoniously arrogant without justification, and rude\".
1/19/2006 6:52:30 PM
From England. Reading all this is unbelievable! America is the greatest nation on earth and yet you believe all this crap about gods, superstition and myth. How did you manage to get to the moon and dozens of other things? Most of the pilgim fathers were hoping to escape religious persecution and early presidents were hostile towards religious superstition. You're moving towards a new dark age in America, and your own president at the moment is the biggest argument against \"intelligent design\" that there could ever be.
1/24/2006 9:39:22 PM
Eugene, believe me, plenty of us in the U.S. experience painful humiliation every day that G.W. Bush remains in office, and we are equally pained by the anti-science fervor sweeping the country these days. Yes, we are on the brink of a new dark age, and we have a lot of candle-lighting to do.
1/24/2006 10:25:13 PM
WITNESS THE REAL
On 1/23/06, Asana Q7 Borhitharta <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
The following converted an atheist although it may confuse a believer. This was posted on a couple of sites that say \"The bible is evil and God doesn't exist\", In that context this post becomes a powerful truth that forces the thinker to fall back on himself. If the bible is \"evil\" then they accept it as true, and that would mean God exists. I will further explain to you if need be but just keep in mind this is written to an atheist:
The funny thing about pointing out all of the things that sound so horrible about the bible is that if you believe they happened then you must also believe That GOD does exist.
If you do not believe in the atrocities Then you cannot say that there is a GOD who allowed them to be commited.
If then you say that there is no God that allowed these atrocities to be commited, yet you do have proof even current proof that these atrocities have been commited and continue to be commited then who is the blame?
Inconsistency prove Truth.
You see Honesty is Honesty if the bible says he sent down fire from the sky and killed 50 men as in the story of Elijah it is true.
If it says thou shall not kill and yet it says speaking of the congregation of Israel that any man that lays with another man should be put to death as in Leviticus then it is true.
If in the bible it says Jesus the Christ was crucified and in the tomb for three days it is true
If the Quaran then comes down from Gabriel and says Jesus the Christ was not crucified nor killed but was recalled from his mission and GOD saved JESUS as the name of JESUS(Yeshuwa) means GOD is SALVATION.
Honesty and truth are not the same. Truth is static but Honesty is dynamic and it refines the truth that it protects. Honesty is always consistent and truth is always inconsistent until it becomes absolute. GOD IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
The more you see the evil, you despise the evil, and some deny the evil but the fact is the evil is being commited by you.
If God doesn't exist who will you be mad at now, who will you blame now for the mess that you and I have made in this world.
If God does exist who should we fear and respect and repent to, now that we are Honest about His might and Strength. If you see the Truth that GOD IS REAL then you also see that All praise is due to Him. Those who reject the truth will face a painful punishment that you yourslef has admitted he is capable of punishing.
Now also if God doesn't exist then you will have to understand that God created man that he might refine the man and if the man created God that he might refine GOD.
If GOD was created by man then man has created the GOD he wanted to have. so if by delusion man created GOD, then he could have only created GOD likened to man himself.
So, if a man breaks free of the delusion then he will clearly see that it is himself who does things, things that he hates and these things can't be contributed to THE GOD that does exist. because if GOD does exist you must also concede that Satan exists. Now if Satan exist there would be no need to make him up because the things you point out that are the most atrocious you contribute to GOD and in-fact according to the Bible you are correct.
Inconsistency proves Truth.
So you can prove GOD by proving a negative about a positive. If GOD exist He would be Honest and tell you everything even things you didn't like.
If GOD doesn't exist man was writing a diary of how in a delusional state he created GOD as an excuse to do evil.
You cannot have it both ways it is either:
Evil Mankind and NO GOD to blame
Evil Mankind with GOD to forgive or punish
Either way if you cant prove GOD you Can't blame HIM
and If you can prove GOD you can't blame HIM
GOD IS REAL have you ever wondered why he called Himself the GOD of ISRAEL? I'll tell you why: because HE IS REAL!
1/29/2006 5:54:23 AM
Dude... quoting someone from somewhere else is good, but only if it's got something to do with the subject at hand.
And what the hell is this??
\"GOD IS REAL have you ever wondered why he called Himself the GOD of ISRAEL? I'll tell you why: because HE IS REAL!\"
Look WITLESS, (and you certainly sound it) go forth and learn something about language and translations before you make a total prat of yourself...
Oh... too late.
1/29/2006 12:03:56 PM
As far as I know, WITNESS THE REAL, you are welcome to witness here but if you want to convert anyone you will have to do better than that incoherent mess. Anyone actually converted by it must be so weak-minded they could be converted back by someone else saying \"Yo, don't believe in god.\"
I hope you have not just shown us your A material. Your postings (regrettably) read like that of a native english speaker so you unfortunately cannot be excused in that way. Please do better. I believe in you.
1/29/2006 12:28:43 PM
Does that rant remind anyone else of TimeCube?
1/29/2006 4:53:48 PM
<<< If you do not believe in the atrocities Then you cannot say that there is a GOD who allowed them to be commited. >>>
Usually atheists say that IF your God exists, as described in the OT, he's clearly not benevolent. They do not say the atrocities happened. They say that, *IF* they happened, they are the work of an angry, vengeful God, not a loving, merciful one.
<<< if the bible says he sent down fire from the sky and killed 50 men as in the story of Elijah it is true. >>>
And the evidence that the Bible is a reliable source is ... ?
<<< If God doesn't exist who will you be mad at now, who will you blame now for the mess that you and I have made in this world. >>>
Let's think here, you and I (and everyone else) made the mess, who do you think should be blamed? (Hint: we don't blame God for it. That would require that he exists. If he did, he might have some 'splainin to do.)
<<< Does that rant remind anyone else of TimeCube? >>>
Vaguely, but not all that much. As incoherent as it is, it can't hold a candle to the incoherence of TimeCube.
1/29/2006 6:33:46 PM
Anyone else find this post unnecessarily confrontational, sanctimoniously arrogant without justification, and rude? And I don't mean that in a bad way...
2/9/2006 6:14:38 PM
You're an idiot, but I don't mean that in a bad way.
11/20/2006 10:44:06 PM
Last time I checked, fundies possessed all these characteristics.
5/20/2007 7:38:04 PM
If only Eddie Izzard's \"James Mason\" god was real :)
@WITNESS THE REAL
Thats proof of nothing and wouldn't convince even the most gullible six year old. Go troll somewhere else.
5/20/2007 9:56:28 PM
great, now I may compare you to your bigoted, genocidal, infanticidal, 'omnipotent', 'omnibenevolent'. scientifically illetterate, dumb, judgmental god.
3/30/2012 2:09:00 PM