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The Gay Liberation Scam

[can we trust them?]

The idea behind the Gay Liberation movement, which began about 1960 in New York, is that homosexuals are a race, similar to Negros and therefore to discriminate against them in any way is merely a form of racism - irrational hatred of someone who has different physical characteristics. They argue that just like blacks they were born the way they are and cannot change even if they wanted to and they just want to be respected and accepted like everyone else is.

The fact is that scientifically this is nonsense. There is no homosexual race and homosexuality is caused by cultural influences and childhood experiences as well as by genetics. There have been many societies in which homosexuality was rare or unknown. In addition to that the Torah merely prohibits male to male anal intercourse, which in any case is clearly an unhygienic and unhealthy practice.

Claiming homosexuals to be a race is basically equivalent to claiming that alcoholics are a race. Men having anal intercourse with other men is a vice not a race.

The fact is that since 1960, every type of sexual behavior (except regular, married sex) has become more common in the US - sex before marriage, adultery, masturbation, sex with children, sado-masochism, sex with the same sex, sex for money, sex during or after murder, oral sex, anal sex, etc. This trend is continuing. This has created a wave of abortions, fatherless children, grisly serial killings, pedophilia and disease, but not much else unfortunately.

jewish philosopher, Torah Philosophy 37 Comments [7/28/2012 2:49:32 PM]
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Nicole

What the crap is this... oh, it's just Jewish Philosopher again.

7/28/2012 2:58:10 PM

Wehpudicabok

I'm pretty sure there's no one claiming sexual orientation equals race.

What we're saying is that like race, sexual orientation is a part of someone's identity and that discrimination based on this part of their identity is immoral.

Hey, here's a thought: Rape and murder are violent actions forced on another; that's why they're immoral (and illegal). Can you explain to me how consensual gay sex is immoral? Of course not.

7/28/2012 3:01:02 PM

Chatvert

...sex during and after murder???

7/28/2012 3:03:13 PM

Filin De Blanc

Once again jewish philosopher does not let his complete ignorance stop him from grandiose proclamations.

7/28/2012 3:07:38 PM

whatever

"The fact is that since 1960, every type of sexual behavior (except regular, married sex) has become more common in the US - sex before marriage, adultery, masturbation, sex with children, sado-masochism, sex with the same sex, sex for money, sex during or after murder, oral sex, anal sex, etc. This trend is continuing. This has created a wave of abortions, fatherless children, grisly serial killings, pedophilia and disease, but not much else unfortunately."

Prove this causal link or STFU.

7/28/2012 3:13:21 PM

Ebon

Homosexuality was proven to be biological four years ago, you idiot.

7/28/2012 3:15:45 PM

The Duelist

Um, bitch? Serial killings have been occurring for centuries; H.K. Holmes and Albert Fish were committing grisly murders long before the 1960s. Now how about some philosophy? You have less philosophy on your website than any other site I've ever seen. Well, except for others that also had 0.00% philosophy content.

7/28/2012 3:25:04 PM

J. James

Jewish Philosopher has a sort of know-nothing strawman arrogance about his writing, doesn't he? It's becoming just as recognizable as Savagesuzie's "style."

And no one is claiming homosexuals are a "race." and more to the point, a consistent proportion of all human societies have been homosexual, some simply conceal it better than others.

7/28/2012 3:59:46 PM

Filin De Blanc

"Jewish Philosopher has a sort of know-nothing strawman arrogance about his writing, doesn't he? It's becoming just as recognizable as Savagesuzie's "style.""

I've said before that they should date - they have the same propensity towards going on long-winded rants on subjects that they clearly know nothing about, riddled with claims about their particular enemies that they just pulled out of their rears.

7/28/2012 4:07:00 PM

Meishayuri

I think we should all chip in and buy jewish philosopher a torah, talmud, bible, and kabalah written in pig latin. This way, we are almost guaranteed he'll be so pissed off he'll either implode or explode.

7/28/2012 4:08:39 PM

John

homosexuality is caused by cultural influences and childhood experiences as well as by genetics.

And you have peer-reviewed evidence for this?

7/28/2012 4:29:29 PM

Raised by Horses

Jewish Fauxlosopher, not content to merely knock down a single straw man, has set up an entire forest's worth of them, which he now proceeds to burn down to the ground with his usual tact and grace.

7/28/2012 5:05:20 PM

Milza

They argue that just like blacks they were born the way they are and cannot change even if they wanted to...

...caused by cultural influences and childhood experiences as well as by genetics.

I can change my genetics? Why didn't anyone tell me?! I'm going to grow wings, brb.

7/28/2012 5:21:29 PM

Xotan

Dear Jewish Philosopher (really?), what about

- Jews are a race, similar to Negros ...to discriminate against them ...is merely a form of racism - irrational hatred of someone who has different ...characteristics. ... and they just want to be respected and accepted like everyone else is.

Homosexuals do not claim to be a race. How ironic it is a Jew that raises the issue of race! Oh, I remember - Chosen people and all that. You are a disgrace to decent Judaism.

7/28/2012 5:23:00 PM



lets see, how to address this , lets try some sanity.

Homosexuals , that is both male and female as well as transgender can be considered a group , not unlike disabled persons, who therefore can qualify for legislation to protect them from bias.

Nothing racial required.

I suspect that homosexuals, adulterers, sex before marriage(fornication) pedophelia, oral, anal, necrophilia, bestiality etc all existed before 1960 by say 4,000 years at least.

7/28/2012 5:57:02 PM

The Anonymous

Masturbation causes abortion, fatherless children, pedophilia, and disease? lolwut

And this rest of this is just the usual idiot strawmen arguments jewish philosopher loves.

7/28/2012 6:14:04 PM

Alencon

Wow this guy is an absolute idiot isn't he?

It's an analogy you putz. No one is saying homosexuality is a race. But since it's something beyond the person's control, analogous to race, it's wrong to ostracize people for it.

You might as well declare being blue eyed or left handed a sin.

7/28/2012 6:14:04 PM

checkmate

homosexuality is caused by cultural influences and childhood experiences as well as by genetics.

Genetics? "As well as by genetics"? You're saying that genetics are somehow a part of being gay?

Thank you. I will be quoting you on that and reminding you of your words until the Tempel in Jerusalem is rebuilt.

Look mom, he said genetics are involved!

Oh, yes, the rest is all bullshit.

7/28/2012 6:29:51 PM

RTT

We had better keep a good eye on this one. Soon he'll have an army of strawmen large enough to conquer something.

7/28/2012 6:59:48 PM

Adrian

"They argue that just like blacks they were born the way they are and cannot change even if they wanted to and they just want to be respected and accepted like everyone else is."

The question is, why should they want to? It doesn't really matter whether it's a choice or something innate (though as I understand it actual science leans heavily toward the latter), it's part of who they are and they're not hurting anybody. Gays don't try to force you to change your favorite football team or anything like that, would it be too much to ask for you to return the courtesy? "Because Im a petty little pissant and I don't like the defining characteristic of a group" (in this case their sexual orientation) is not a valid reason to bother people, nevermind trying to have harassment against them made institutional.

"The fact is that since 1960, every type of sexual behavior (except regular, married sex) has become more common in the US - sex before marriage, adultery, masturbation, sex with children, sado-masochism, sex with the same sex, sex for money, sex during or after murder, oral sex, anal sex, etc"

Arson, Murder and Jaywalking?

Also, citation fucking needed!


@RTT:

"We had better keep a good eye on this one. Soon he'll have an army of strawmen large enough to conquer something."

His parents' kitchen, you mean? (Well, the fridge, the pantry and the microwave, anyway. This troglodyte probably wouldn't have much use for the rest of the room)

Levity aside, we shouldn't underestimate the danger he poses: I mean, all that straw adds up to a big fat fire hazard, particularly when combined with the the flames of impotent rage coming out of his ears and nostrils.

7/28/2012 9:14:11 PM

Oh My Dog!

It's about having equal rights, and that's it. That is all it's ever been about. What part of this don't you understand?

Edit

Why do you care; why are you so obsessed with this?




7/28/2012 9:44:44 PM

J. James

@Filin De Blanc

"I've said before they should date"

Oh Lordy, no! Imagine the unholy idiot-spawn they would produce. More to the point, both are entirely too bigoted to date a JOO or a Goyim, respectively.

7/28/2012 10:03:34 PM

thatotherguy

homosexuals are a race

Nearly stopped reading there. This is the first time I have heard anyone say that.

similar to Negros

Really? You still say Negros?

and therefore to discriminate against them in any way is merely a form of racism

The word usually used is "homophobia", but it's actually more or less the same sentiment – a form of fear of the unknown

7/29/2012 1:20:31 AM

Leighton Buzzard

@ Xotan: even if Jews were a race (very debatable), JP would never be part of it. He's a convert. In fact he's an autoconvert - no other Jew ever asked him in, he just up and decided to go all Torah one day. Weird dude.

7/29/2012 2:27:17 AM

fishtank

I doubt it.

7/29/2012 3:53:58 AM
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