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Straight Rights

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Thousands of people are mourning the death of Mr Clementi, an 18 year old college student who committed suicide after being taunted about his homosexuality.

I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men.

Imagine for a moment that you had a twenty eight year old daughter. She is diagnosed with AIDS and tuberculosis and is expected to soon die. Her husband and her two small children, have tested HIV positive. Researching into this, it turns out that when she was 18, your daughter had unprotected sex with an 18 year old boy. That boy unknown to her was HIV positive after having had unprotected anal sex with a man who, unknown to the boy, was HIV positive. Such tragedies can and do happen in America and Europe today.

If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented.


jewish philosopher, Torah Philosophy 67 Comments [8/29/2012 3:52:45 AM]
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LAchlan

"I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men."

Not very many, I'd imagine.

8/29/2012 3:59:19 AM

Filin De Blanc

Do you even understand what the word "homosexual" means?

8/29/2012 4:00:54 AM

hera

If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented.

Or you could just I don't know, explain to people to use a condom. And get tested for STDs, and all the other things I learned in sex ed.

On a side note. Isn't sex before marriage (or more biblical correct with someone you don't spend the rest of you life with) a sin, which your daughter commited.

8/29/2012 4:11:54 AM

\m/>_<\m/

0.o woah, that's pretty stupid by human standards, on par for this asshat though

8/29/2012 4:12:00 AM

Reynardine

No. If we taught our little boys to put on their rubbers before they ventured into anyplace wet, such "tradegies" could be prevented. Your own example postulates three cases of heterosexual transmission to one homosexual, in case you didn't notice.

8/29/2012 4:13:36 AM

Leighton Buzzard

I bet this loony agrees with all the other death penalty clauses in Torah, too. Cos he's a loony.

8/29/2012 4:20:51 AM



"Her husband and her two small children, have tested HIV positive."

Given that the kids usually get HIV through breastfeeding or a transfusion, and that it is INCREDIBLY FUCKING RARE for that to happen... for both kids to get HIV that way would be so unlikely that you might as well class it as impossible.

So, which parent is fucking the kids?

8/29/2012 4:20:52 AM

Oh My Dog!

If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented.


I know it's nitpicky but, all the Torah says is "You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman"; it does not describe what that means specifically.

The Torah would also call for putting the daughter to death for having sex before marriage. So why aren't you saying she deserves to die as well?

You are a vile person; you pick and choose scripture only to suit your own bigotry.


8/29/2012 4:31:28 AM

Mystik Spiral

You're a "tradegy" that could have been prevented. I doubt anyone would mourn the loss of you, stupid.

8/29/2012 4:35:43 AM



An elephant would be a better "philosopher" than you. So would a dolphin.

8/29/2012 4:38:02 AM

Ebon

I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men.

Absolutely, and I say this with iron certainty, zero deaths from that, ever.

Also, how can someone who calls himself "philosopher" be so utterly incurious?

8/29/2012 4:50:09 AM



...straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men.

If "straight" people are having sex with homosexuals, that makes them, you know, homosexuals.

8/29/2012 4:55:10 AM

The Watcher

Are you trying for Fundie of the Year or something?

8/29/2012 4:58:44 AM

Doubting Thomas

This is why condom use is essential with sex with strangers. Of course, conservative idiots like JP here would rather just kill people so they don't die from AIDS.

8/29/2012 5:31:29 AM

The Watcher

Removed: DP

8/29/2012 5:41:23 AM

Swede

What if the woman had sex with a man who had had unprotected sex with a woman who, unknown to the man, was HIV positive? Such tragedies can and do happen in America, Europe, and most prominently, in Africa today.

Does the Torah really specify sexual position? I know the Old Testament don't.

8/29/2012 5:52:05 AM

Justanotheratheist

Oh great, he's back.

8/29/2012 6:00:09 AM

fishtank

In our part of the world, people do not die from HIV anymore.

8/29/2012 6:18:04 AM

dionysus

I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men.

Pretty close to zero I'd imagine. Not very many straight men go have gay sex. It's weird though how homophobes are convinced that it's so easy for a "straight" man to turn gay. Says a lot about them.

8/29/2012 6:20:50 AM

Dr.Shrinker

Jewish Philosopher responds to a critic of this post:

"Gay rights is a favorite topic for atheists because first of all, it implies a rejection of the Bible, which is always good. Secondly, it involves defending a weak minority group, giving atheists a nice glow of self righteousness. If millions of lives are lost, I guess that's just collateral damage."


Among hateful, ignorant theists, this guy could give David Stewart a run for his money.

8/29/2012 6:26:25 AM

FELIX LÆTVS

I'm pretty happy being free. Have a wonderful fiancé. So on. That said, if anyone showed up with the intention of killing me or my fiancé, neither of us would go down without a fight. In fact I doubt many of us would.

Or would the police officers being killed just be 'collateral damage'?

Not that anything like that would ever happen. Bigots like you are fading out. Probably makes you scared, huh?

8/29/2012 6:34:05 AM

Quantum Mechanic

Torah's forged.
Go fuck yourself.

8/29/2012 6:35:45 AM

Filin De Blanc

"If millions of lives are lost, I guess that's just collateral damage."

Excuse me, which of us is advocating the killing of 5% of the population?

8/29/2012 6:41:09 AM

Anon-e-moose

Ah, more strawman arguments by the troll jewish FAILosopher. And his real screename is proven:

"I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men."

"straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men"

>straight
>homosexual

Haven't really thought out the logic of your argument, have you?

The last time I saw a straw man that large, there was an extra-crispy policeman inside it!

8/29/2012 6:51:38 AM

Pup

Surely this is more an argument for encouraging STD testing than against homosexuality.

8/29/2012 7:07:03 AM
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