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Thousands of people are mourning the death of Mr Clementi, an 18 year old college student who committed suicide after being taunted about his homosexuality.

I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men.

Imagine for a moment that you had a twenty eight year old daughter. She is diagnosed with AIDS and tuberculosis and is expected to soon die. Her husband and her two small children, have tested HIV positive. Researching into this, it turns out that when she was 18, your daughter had unprotected sex with an 18 year old boy. That boy unknown to her was HIV positive after having had unprotected anal sex with a man who, unknown to the boy, was HIV positive. Such tragedies can and do happen in America and Europe today.

If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented.


jewish philosopher, Torah Philosophy 67 Comments [8/29/2012 3:52:45 AM]
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Horsefeathers

"I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men."

How the fuck exactly does that work?

"Imagine for a moment that you had a twenty eight year old daughter. She is diagnosed with AIDS and tuberculosis and is expected to soon die. Her husband and her two small children, have tested HIV positive. Researching into this, it turns out that when she was 18, your daughter had unprotected sex with an 18 year old boy. That boy unknown to her was HIV positive after having had unprotected anal sex with a man who, unknown to the boy, was HIV positive. Such tragedies can and do happen in America and Europe today."

Where in the holy hell do you people get things like this? Is there some sort of fundy Book of Insane Propositions somewhere?

"If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented."

You seem fixated with men having anal sex with one another. Perhaps you're just in need of a good reaming out yourself.

8/29/2012 7:14:57 AM

fapwank

Well, since you insist on fruitfully multiplying past the earth's capacity to sustain life in a world where all fish in the ocean will be extinct by 2048... losing one child leaves you ten or more that will also have ten or more children exponentially. Nature is doing its best to save humanity from extinction with one of the few incurable diseases at its disposal to control the human population, coextinction is our best Judeo-Christian hope.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500368_162-2147223.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coextinction

8/29/2012 7:17:38 AM

Arctic Knight

AIDS is not a homosexual disease, it is a human disease.

8/29/2012 7:18:26 AM

JeanP

@dionysus
"It's weird though how homophobes are convinced that it's so easy for a "straight" man to turn gay. Says a lot about them."

Haggard's law?


8/29/2012 7:29:55 AM

John

A lot more straight people die after being infected by straight men than die after being infected by homosexuals.

8/29/2012 7:35:50 AM

Anon-e-moose

"If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented."



'The Bible says that if a man sleeps with another man, they should be stoned. It definitely helps.'

-Frankie Boyle

8/29/2012 8:07:13 AM

pete

Astounding. Despite displaying the knowledge that straight people can give each other AIDS he seems to think that it has to originate from a gay man. If he weren't barking mad he would realize it makes more sense to execute straight people, who are infected with HIV, than it does to kill gay men who don't carry the virus.

BTW. The fact that AIDS wasn't brought to this country by a Harvard Student coming home from spring break, a Kennedy returning from safari, or even a Christian missionary returning from his/her mission is pure chance.

8/29/2012 8:08:03 AM

Sasha

unprotected sex

You are giving away the solution without even realizing it. Condoms work. I used to carry them myself when I was dating, just in case my date forgot. "Be safe, not sorry."

And bonus, we won't have to kill anyone. :D

8/29/2012 8:24:17 AM

RiJayden

Prostitutes and drug users can also have HIV. Should we kill them- Oh wait, you'd condone that too.

EDIT: Wait... I missed something. What in the hell does Clementi's death have to do with HIV? Sick is what you are..

8/29/2012 8:28:48 AM

Thinking Allowed

Someone needs to get some serious education regarding how the HIV virus works.

8/29/2012 8:43:40 AM

Papabear

In your imaginary scenario you're right. Those tradegies could be prevented, but the problem doesn't seem to be the sex, the problem seems to be the lack of condoms and safe sex practices.

8/29/2012 8:57:07 AM



Passerby

It is already punishable by law for someone of any sexual persuasion to neglect to inform someone they plan to do the deed with that they have a dangerous STD. Besides that, it would be pretty difficult for an HIV positive homosexual to give an STD to a straight person seeing as that would require sex they are not interested in.

Oh wait, its just jewishphilosopher.
Damned troll never stops.

8/29/2012 9:23:19 AM

UHM

I don't know if you heard of it yet, but there's an invention called "condome". Yo might want to look into it.

Also, as an amoral atheist I'd care for my daughter, her husband and the grandchildren. But's that's just me, an evil, amoral atheist seduced by the devil.

I guess you, the morally superior being would go on the internet and tell the story to "make clear how dangerous homosexuality is" or something heroic like that.

Hey, what do I know? I'm going to hell!

8/29/2012 9:49:55 AM

JSS

For vulture-picking on a young man's death...


For your sheer psychopathic nature...


And for your usage of religious faith as a whitened self-righteous robe to hide the ugliness and filth of your core beliefs...

8/29/2012 10:13:13 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

AIDS is NOT a gay disease! Ignorant piece of crap.

8/29/2012 10:21:29 AM

Mister Spak

Imagine for a moment that you are a palestinian living in the west bank. A jewish philosopher arrives and decides to tear down your house and build his own house on your land.

He shows the commandment in the Torah that says god gave this land only to jews. Then he shoots the palestinian. Such tragedies can and do happen in Israel today.


8/29/2012 11:37:40 AM

Anon

>> She is diagnosed with AIDS and tuberculosis and is expected to soon die.<<

...

If you have had any public health training at all, you would know how that could have been prevented.

Also - TB and HIV don't kill you immediately. Unless you've gotten the totally-resistant strain (which is a scary thing, but hasn't been reported in the Americas or Europe yet), TB can be treated effectively. HAART therapy brings the life expectancy of HIV patients up to several decades.

"jewish philosopher" fails natural philosophy forever.

8/29/2012 11:38:39 AM

D Laurier

"I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men."
Zero.
Because zero straight males have been infected with HIV by homosexual men.
If you are having unprotected sex with a gay man, it is because you are gay, and stupid.

8/29/2012 12:25:21 PM

The Crimson Ghost

WTF does an 18 y/o who committed suicide have to do with HIV? That's really reaching.

And good luck with your little "we should all follow the torah" gig; that ain't gonna work. This is country where people can't even microwave minute rice without explicit directions.
Besides, the torah is a horrible book-as is the bible & the koran. All 3 are would best be used as kindling or rolling papers.
The limitless ignorance & stupidity of this man staggers me.

8/29/2012 1:04:04 PM

Old Viking

My 28-year-old daughter is diagnosed with AIDS and tuberculosis? Is she OK otherwise?

8/29/2012 1:10:45 PM



anyones death is a sad event for someone. There were many cases where the risk of infection by blood transfusions was notknown, or the blood was not tested and the donor did not know he was infected. Over time those sort of infeections have been greatly reduced or eliminated.

Perhaps Mr Clementi was a virgin homosexual ?

A long period between infection of HIV, signs of HIV and then HIV become AIDS can mean a lot of people who inknowingly had high risk behavior may be only know experiancing the overt symptoms. I have heard times if 10 years for HIV/AIDS.

Only of you put both men to death he very first time either engages in behavior that could spread the disease. Perhaps if God was more active at smiting people for breaking his laws things would be simpler. ?

8/29/2012 1:26:34 PM

cdcdrr

How about if we put you to death first? We go through the entire old testament to sum up how many sins and abominations you have comitted, and carry out the appropriate punishment for each one.

8/29/2012 2:06:46 PM



That does sound like a tragedy but was she taunted and harassed about being straight nearly everyday of her life?

8/29/2012 3:31:27 PM

Osiris

I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men.
The same people who mourn the deaths of people who have been stabbed to death by unicorns.

She is diagnosed with AIDS and tuberculosis and is expected to soon die. Her husband and her two small children, have tested HIV positive. Researching into this, it turns out that when she was 18, your daughter had unprotected sex with an 18 year old boy. That boy unknown to her was HIV positive after having had unprotected anal sex with a man who, unknown to the boy, was HIV positive. Such tragedies can and do happen in America and Europe today.
You know what? That sucks. She probably should have practiced safe sex and she probably should have asked about her partner's sexual history. But what does this prove other than that HIV can infect anyone regardless of gender, age, and sexual orientation. If you're retarded idea is that AIDS is somehow a gay plague you just shot it in the leg.

If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented.
Or, you know, wear a condom and practice safe sex. But then again we all know Yahwee. Why solve a solution logically and peaceful when you can just instigate mass genocide. It worked so well on the Philistines right?

8/29/2012 4:56:39 PM

farpadokly

Why the fuck would a gay guy fuck a guy in the arse and then fuck a girl? He'd be bi in that case.
I can think of an elegant and simple solution which means that no-one has to get executed: Contraception. Sexual health clinics. Medicine. Education. That would be a bit more effective than the threat of execution for homosexual sex. During the period when homosexual sex was prosecutable, men just did it secretly.

8/29/2012 5:17:49 PM
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