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The movies that Hollywood puts out today are often decadent and evil. They glorify sadism, depravity, and nihilistic violence. They are modern-day versions of the Roman games.

Hollywood isn’t just making crap; it is degrading characters that used to be good and decent. Batman used to be a worthy superhero instead of a sick freak. The 1960's Batman was clean and wholesome. The show was campy and juvenile, too, but it wasn’t a study in abnormal psychology. Batman was an honest and true hero, not an angry recluse fighting his “inner demons.”

Hollywood is tearing the fabric of our civilization. Pop culture is an important and powerful thing, it isn’t just “entertainment.” For a lot of people, it’s really important. Their families have been destroyed, they don’t go to church, the community institutions that used to bind people to one another have faded away or been forcibly broken up — to these people, pop culture isn’t just light amusement; it has real meaning. In many cases they have little else.

It kills me that a mainstream movie like Dark Knight Rising is a horror show of sadism and decadence. The release of a new blockbuster movie used to be a fun, and largely positive, thing. Whether it was the new Star Wars movie, Rocky III, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, etc., these movies were festive and fun.

But the Boomers changed all that. Starting in the early 1990’s, with The Terminator, the movies became “dark” and started to feature orgies of sadistic violence and killing. In my opinion, the Batman movies are the worst of the lot. I have always been repelled by them.

I am sorry for the kids who went to see this trash, and of course I am deeply sorry for those killed. They didn’t know any better – they are victims of our decadent and depraved popular culture. They were raised in a moral wasteland and don’t know any better than to celebrate movies like this. It is terrible that they were killed, they were just innocent kids. But Hollywood is doing an evil thing by putting out movies like this.

The sick freak who did this was incited by the movie. It spoke to him because it is sick and twisted, just like he is. He wouldn’t have done this at a showing of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Maybe he still would have become a murderer, but he would not have identified so strongly with the movie. I believe that movies like this create guys like that. There will always be troubled people, but school shootings and massacres by lone gunmen are a relatively new phenomenon. If the culture was healthier, guys like this would probably not fall so far. If their home lives were messed up, they’d find solace in something else. They certainly wouldn’t have their sick fantasies excited by “mainstream” entertainment like the new Batman movie.

But in our atomized and decadent culture of today, no one stops them from sinking into depravity and insanity; on the contrary, they are bombarded with images of torture and cruelty and death everywhere they go. So yes, I do blame the movie for the deaths of those kids.

Matthew H., The Thinking Housewife 84 Comments [7/28/2012 3:24:25 PM]
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Lady Evil

My guess is that Matty never saw Temple of Doom, but just the trailer and assumed it was all about a man running away from a boulder while cheerful music played.

8/1/2012 11:01:21 AM


Oh yeah, cause chilled monkey brains, hearts being removed, people getting blendered by airplane propellers and melting faces totally isn't sick and twisted, is it?

1/7/2013 9:43:57 AM


As a movie and comic geek I have to say that Mattie does not know anything about either movies or comics.

Also, there have been dark and violent movies since the invention of the moving pictures. Hell, every medium/art form in the history of mankind has been used to show dark and violent things (and porn).

Shakespeare actors train to show exciting (and violent) sword fights on stage and have you ever seen a painting by Hieronymus Bosch? He could have taught the makers of the Saw movies a thing or three. Old legends and myths are full of gore and violence, just look at the ancient Greeks (Prometheus getting his liver eaten by an eagle every day, anyone?) or the original Grimms’ fairy tales.

1/8/2013 5:41:53 AM

movies put out what people pay to see. If one type of movie makes a large profit others are sure to follow. If the general public all had high moral standards and refused to see movies that were not morally uplifting then movies would change.

The high number of porn sites suggests that lots of people have low tastes.

1/8/2013 8:40:17 PM


The "Left Behind" novels. The videogame based on such.

So just because the "Harry Potter" films made over $7 billion in total (also, "Avatar" made over $1 billion in just 17 days), that's no excuse to blame anything on Hollywood because your precious "Left Behind: The Movie" bombed worse than a lead Horseman of the Apocalypse.

And doesn't that scenario itself - especially the "Left Behind: Eternal Forces" game - glorify sadisic, depraved, and nihilistic violence, borrowing from "mainstream" entertainment?!

Several years ago, on BBC Radio 5's film review hour with Mark Kermode, they interviewed the (then) head of the British Board of Film Classification. On the subject of screen violence, what was brought up was - especially in light of the film "Passion of the Christ"'s release - a potential adaptation of the Bible. If such a production was made today, and didn't gloss over certain Biblical events, a la "The Greatest Story Ever Told", and included the Old Testament as well; also that they used the actual text of the Bible as the screenplay itself, omitting nothing, said BBFC head said they would refuse even an 'R-18' rating for such (even then, only for hardcore porn sold in sex shops/shown in private film clubs), thus never allowing such a film's release here in the UK. Because the hyper-gory violence in such would render such a film subject to seizure by the police under the Obscene Publications Act.

Even the "Saw" & "Hostel" films are visual effects. If - as you fundies claim - your 'moral' Bible - is the 'Word of God', then you have no right whatsoever to condemn anyone about 'violence', as your 'God' is infinitely worse than any screen villain.

1/9/2013 8:04:08 AM


So, Temple of Doom was fun and festive not dark?

This is literally the most fucking retarded piece of bullshit I've ever read.

7/24/2013 7:39:04 PM


The movies that Hollywood puts out today are often decadent and evil. They glorify sadism, depravity, and nihilistic violence.[…]

Starting in the early 1990’s, with The Terminator, the movies became “dark” and started to feature orgies of sadistic violence and killing.

I recently re-watched the original The Invisible Man. Talk about sadism and nihilistic violence! And that movie is from 1933.

Also, early 1990s was Terminator 2, which was less violent and dark than the first part…

1/9/2015 7:32:05 AM


Don't show this guy the convolution that is Saw. Seriously, I always want a thick, juicy burger after that series.

1/9/2015 7:36:57 AM


So basically he does not care about brutal violence, loss of limbs and over the top deaths so long as the movie is fun. After all he's praising the Indiana Jones movies with their face melting and ripping hearts out of people's chests.

Really the violence in the dark knight trilogy never got that graphic.

1/9/2015 7:39:49 AM

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