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WHEN Sally Ride was set to fly on the space shuttle Challenger in 1983 and thus become the first woman in space, Gloria Steinem said, “Millions of little girls are going to sit by their television sets and see they can be astronauts, heroes, explorers and scientists.”

This was of course a ridiculous statement. How many little girls had ever wanted to be astronauts? About as many who longed to be soldiers or fighter pilots. In other words, very few. Steinem’s real point, in keeping with her intense dislike of women, was that women should want to be astronauts and there was something wrong with them if they didn’t.

Ride, who had a warm, radiant smile and is said to have served ably in her two missions in space, died Monday at the age of 61. For all the fanfare that once surrounded it, Ride’s story will likely fade into history and her life ultimately inspire very few girls. This will be so not only because women do not excel at space science or the physical demands of space travel as men do but also because, as Ride’s obituary proved, she did not lead a full life. Ride was in a lesbian relationship with a childhood friend for 27 years.

To her credit, Ride did not make her lesbianism public and was private about her personal life in general. Her sister and the woman with whom she had a relationship, Tam O’Shaughnessy, have released the information to the world and now Ride has the double distinction of being both the first woman and the first lesbian in space. O’Shaughnessy was Ride’s friend since the age of 12. Ride was briefly married to another astronaut, but they were divorced. So while Ride accomplished much in her career, thanks in part to the spirit of affirmative action, she seems to have never fully emerged from childhood.

The only good reason for a normal woman to go through the grueling rigors of becoming an astronaut is that NASA is a great place to meet men. Ride’s life, however, does not even offer that slim hope to little girls, that wonderful compensation for dreary days in a control cabin. Ride flew into space but never experienced other thrills that are as great or far greater. She never gave a man such necessary and life-sustaining love that he was able to do great things, such as fly into space. She never looked up at the stars with her own children and encouraged their wonder. She did not pass on her love of space to a son or daughter or grandchild.

Though she performed capably in her public position as a Role Model of the Century, Sally Ride’s example will likely be the exact opposite of what NASA and Gloria Steinem predicted. She will serve as a reminder of at least some of the very good reasons why women don’t want to be astronauts. The vast majority of women would sooner love an astronaut than be one. And given that most men are destined to perform inglorious jobs for most of their lives, women will come to see that the dream of conquering space rightly belongs to men.


Laura Wood,  Thinking Housewife 98 Comments [7/31/2012 3:31:06 AM]
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fishtank

@#1429600
You win!

7/31/2012 6:52:44 AM

Prager

I know it's evil, but I really want to give Laura a hard slap across the face right now.

7/31/2012 7:12:00 AM

Girl Mech Eng!

Sometimes I think there should be a button you can press to punch the person on the other end of the internets who writes this crap.

Sally Ride was a freaking HERO to me and, my atheist godfather (figure that one out) was constantly telling me girls shouldn't do that stuff) so, basically, Sally Ride was all I had to prove him wrong. Now I have a master's in engineering and have out paced so many of my male colleagues that now it is hard to find a job because I'm too young to have done so much and no one can pay me or will let me take a pay cut. But Math and Science is DAMN FUN!

7/31/2012 7:16:06 AM

Shax

@Anon-e-moose: She probably regards Europe and the UK as an inchoate barbarian wasteland ruled by an unholy alliance of evil socialist secularists and the Muslim hordes, so in her mind it doesn't matter what their women do.

7/31/2012 7:17:08 AM

Philbert McAdamia

she did not lead a full life. Ride was in a lesbian relationship with a childhood friend for 27 years.

So, like Genesis 1 and 2, then, no contradiction here.

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Ride was briefly married to another astronaut, but they were divorced.
She never gave a man such necessary and life-sustaining love


Nor here.
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She accomplished a life's goal. It's what we're all here for. Almost everybody fades into obscurity after a while, but in the mean time waiting and hoping to die, so that you can go to the sky and marry the zombie is not on the agenda. Yours, maybe, not everybody's.

7/31/2012 7:19:19 AM

Seeker Lancer

"Thinking Housewife" eh? I didn't realize housewives were allowed to think in Laura Wood's version of the world.

All I hear is jealousy. All I hear is Wood tearing down a hero to make her feel better about her own boring life that doesn't contribute to society in any way, that nobody will ever remember her for.

7/31/2012 7:58:47 AM

rebel

You're not even worthy of uttering Ride's name, you pathetic so called "thinking" woman!
At least she had the guts to follow her dreams and accomplish something with her life. What have YOU accomplished?
Besides, haven't you heard all the jobs women had during WW11? Fighter pilots, making the weapons, farming ect. Sure, it was still sexist back then, but women ran the place without males! (As is my understanding, at least.)

7/31/2012 8:00:56 AM

Poe Princess Mara

I think Laura Wood is just bitter and jealous.

7/31/2012 8:14:40 AM

breakerslion

"In other words, very few. Steinem’s real point, in keeping with her intense dislike of women, was that women should want to be astronauts and there was something wrong with them if they didn’t."

I don't think I've ever seen a finer example of jealousy, self-loathing, and projection. Absolutely textbook. Then of course, there's the meme-shoveling... If alcohol or prescription drugs aren't playing a role in your life already, I'll check back in 10 years or so.

Get help, and stop attempting to bash your betters.

7/31/2012 8:16:42 AM

Arctic Knight

These 70 women would like a word with you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_astronauts

EDIT: Sally Ride was not the first woman in space, she was simply the first American woman in space. The honor of first woman in space goes to Valentina Tereshkova, a Russian Cosmonaut.

7/31/2012 8:24:10 AM

Skyknight

...Check the quote, Wood. “Millions of little girls are going to sit by their television sets and see they can be astronauts, heroes, explorers and scientists.” Notice that Steinem DIDN'T JUST SAY ASTRONAUTS! Nor did she say soldiers at all, unless you somehow think "heroes" is just another word for "soldiers". Even if most women don't wish to be astronauts (and truth be told, I expect most men wouldn't, either), I'm confident a great many DO wish to be scientists.

7/31/2012 8:26:18 AM

Berny

Maybe you think all little girls dream of being doormats for their dominant husband but the truth is they don't. You speak for a small minority of women who have been so brainwashed by their religious upbringing they think their only purpose in life is whelp babies for Jesus and pray their husband doesn't smack them around too much.
Complete and utter nonsense.
Sorry to say but my daughter refuses to live down to your standards.

7/31/2012 8:32:28 AM

Flah

Laura, come here a moment. Valentina Tereshkova would like a quick word with you. It's crazy, I know, but there were the occasional situations in the past where people other than Americans managed to do something special.

And I'm not going to acknowledge the rest of this quote, being nothing more than an insult against a good woman, along with all other women who have goals other than getting a husband and pumping out children for him.

7/31/2012 8:35:17 AM

Uhura

I wanted to be a soldier, a fighter pilot AND an astronaut. I wanted to as I watched the Gemini & Apollo space programs back in the 1960's.
My Mom, God rest her soul, wanted to be a pilot as well so she saved up her baby-sitting money & paid for the damn lessons herself. In 1947.

Thinking Housewife? You don't know what one is.

Screw you.

7/31/2012 9:03:00 AM

tiktaalik

"The only good reason for a normal woman to go through the grueling rigors of becoming an astronaut is that NASA is a great place to meet men.

There are no words that can express the stupid contained in this one sentence.

So, aside from being in an infinitesimally small group of people who have been to fucking orbit, the REAL reason why anyone becomes an astronaut is because registering an OKCupid profile is too difficult and complicated? Are you high?

7/31/2012 9:07:35 AM



"The only good reason for a normal woman to go through the grueling rigors of becoming an astronaut is that NASA is a great place to meet men."

Not, y'know, the opportunity to go to MOTHERFUCKIN' SPACE?!


Christ, this might be the most offensive thing I've read in quite a while.

7/31/2012 9:14:42 AM

SpukiKitty

"...as Ride’s obituary proved, she did not lead a full life..."

WHICH IS MORE AWESOMESAUCE?

1.) A submissive homemaker with no will who pops out babies until her uterus explodes.

2.) An Astronaut who blasts into outer space, experiencing stuff most folks wouldn't, like zero gravity, for starters!

HMMMMMMM....Choices, Choices.....

(I'm not knocking women who are homemakers, if that's their choice & they are happy, fine. But saying that ALL women MUST be homemakers is stupid! And even a homemaker shouldn't be submissive to her husband.)

7/31/2012 9:17:20 AM

SpukiKitty

@VoiceofKane

It's possible she was in the closet at the time. A lot of gay people get into hetero marriages due to not "coming out" yet.

7/31/2012 9:19:16 AM

farpadokly

Let me sum this up for you if it's tl;dr. Sally Ride wasn't a proper woman cos she didn't have babies. Also, women are too weak to be astronauts.

"..most men are destined to perform inglorious jobs for most of their lives..." And that sentence right there is why, as I keep insisting, men should be against patriarchy too.

Laura here is like the obverse of the radical feminists; masochistic surrender instead of sadistic revenge.

7/31/2012 9:25:24 AM

mikek44224

"How many little girls had ever wanted to be astronauts?"

How many little girls were steered away from becoming astronauts because our culture says they need to become people like you!

7/31/2012 9:34:43 AM

Ozymandias

Laura here is unimpressed by space because there's so much of it in her head... and in that place where our sense of accomplishment dwells.

You can't fill that empty feeling with a man Laura.

7/31/2012 9:41:19 AM

Reynardine

I believe she might more rightly be called The Stinking Housewife.

7/31/2012 9:41:28 AM

Zagen30

It always saddens me when I see women who have been brought up thinking that they are only good for producing children and cleaning the house, and that their entire worth is based on how well they submit to their husband. It makes me angry that patriarchal cultures are still able to inculcate women with the belief that they are inherently inferior to men and should be happy as slaves. It makes it hard for me to be really angry at people like Laura Wood, because they've been brought up to never question anything and to assume their superiors are infallible; had she been raised to think for herself, she probably wouldn't be like this. Not that that completely excuses her, of course.

She will serve as a reminder of at least some of the very good reasons why women don’t want to be astronauts.

About the only reason that I've seen you list is that all the practice for the actual flight can be dull. And guess what, practicing to become superb at basically anything is going to be dull a lot of the time. In the real world where women have more aspirations than finding a man, the goal of practice is to do something wonderful, be it go to space, beat others in a sporting competition, produce lovely music, etc. By the non-patriarchal definition, Ms. Ride accomplished her goal, and was an inspiration to girls because of that.

She never looked up at the stars with her own children and encouraged their wonder. She did not pass on her love of space to a son or daughter or grandchild.

Perhaps not, but she passed on those things to far more people than if she'd just sat at home making babies and cooking dinner.

7/31/2012 9:51:03 AM

Zagen30

So while Ride accomplished much in her career, thanks in part to the spirit of affirmative action, she seems to have never fully emerged from childhood.

You're the one who can't understand other people's perspectives. Most children grow out of that (there is, in fact, a period of time where children seem to be physically incapable of understanding that other people have a different perspective). You also are trapped in an overly-simplistic view of the world and need to be taken care of all the time. Who's really the child here?

7/31/2012 9:51:36 AM



This quote:

"So while Ride accomplished much in her career, thanks in part to the spirit of affirmative action, she seems to have never fully emerged from childhood."

Thanks for slaming Sally. You do now she had a Phd? She was a fully functioning adult and not a child. You of course seem to buy the lie that people are Gay and or Lesbian because of fear of being fully adult and too avoid adult responsibilities like having children. Since I know of so many people who have children who should NOT have had children I question your assumption that it requires adult maturity to decide to have kids.

Dr. Ride seems to have been a fully functioning adult. Your assumption that the only "adult" women are those who produce babies is a crock of shit.


7/31/2012 9:59:20 AM
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