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[In response to someone calling banning pro-gay media fascist.]
True.....but the whole concept of self government allows the people’s representatives to pick and choose what they wish to make illegal. We used to do the same thing...censorship of movies and books according to the prevalent moral code of the people was always present in our country. Our ancestors were smart enough to know the difference between protected POLITICAL SPEECH and immorality. And gutsy enough to enforce it.

mick, Free Republic 40 Comments [7/31/2012 3:33:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Sergeant343
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JohnTheAtheist

Foe people that think you are so into the Constitution you know remarkably little about it. You do NOT have the right to pick and choose what you wish to make illegal. My unalienable rights are not subject to your vote...that's what makes them unalienable, you fucking douchebag.

Also, a tyranny of the majority is still a tyranny.

7/31/2012 9:54:35 AM

thatotherguy

True.....

Wait a second. You agree that it's fascist? You agree that you are being a fascist right now then by supporting it? Yikes.

Also worth pointing out is that the guy debating mick here appears to be a fundy and a dedicated conservative freeper – just one who believes in protecting the first amendment. It actually makes for an interesting debate.

7/31/2012 9:59:32 AM

freako104

So you're really for big government not small. You're for censorship. You want people to be in tow with you. Fascist

7/31/2012 11:20:34 AM

John

whole concept of self government allows the people’s representatives to pick and choose what they wish to make illegal.

Except that in the US, the Constitution contains a list of specific exceptions - things the government is not allowed to make illegal, such as speech, the press, religious worship and the possession of arms.

censorship of movies and books according to the prevalent moral code of the people was always present in our country.

That's still true, but there are two important caveats: the material has to be utterly without redeeming social value and it has to be offensive to the moral code people actually live by; not the one they publicly profess to have.

7/31/2012 11:24:47 AM

emau99

So you're calling for censorship of the media... based on your religious biases...in the name of morality?

7/31/2012 1:21:57 PM

LAchlan

The prevalent moral code used to burn witches. And other stuff like that. I don't know where I'm going with this. But shove your molarity up your arse.

7/31/2012 4:56:11 PM

breakerslion

"...but the whole concept of self government allows the people’s representatives to pick and choose what they wish to make illegal."

And that belief is one of the current social problems. An elected representative is not empowered to pick and choose, despite what his ego might believe. That disregard for the rule of law, and representative duty, is called corruption.

7/31/2012 5:33:49 PM

checkmate

the whole concept of self government allows the people’s representatives to pick and choose what they wish to make illegal.

Wrong. The people’s representatives are bound to the restraints of the Constitution. Any law that restricts freedom of speech is unconstitutional and thus invalid.

I learned that in the 7th grade, at the latest. Probably sooner.

If mick were right, then I'd start lobbying for the banning of Christian media. Persecution galore.

7/31/2012 5:58:47 PM

Alencon

The problem always comes down to who decides what speech is political speech and what speech is immorality?

7/31/2012 6:09:27 PM

Karana

Free speech isn't free anymore if it's not, well, free.

Funny that.

7/31/2012 6:24:52 PM

Nagol

It's too bad we don't have a constitution with an amendment of some sort that would allow free speech.

7/31/2012 7:10:34 PM

Sergeant343

Here I thought the freepers thought morality was Objective, I mean that is what every fundie I've met has said, but I guess he is either an idiot, hypocrite, or both.

7/31/2012 9:32:20 PM

Pup

Actually they were smart enough to recognise the tyranny of the majority and established clauses in the constitution to prevent it...

Learn your own country's law, dammit.

8/1/2012 6:40:25 AM

Metallic Space Dragon

Yet another freeper who doesn't understand if that if they do it to us, we can do it to them.

Also smacks of "You're free as long as you act the way I want you to." Total hypocrite.

8/1/2012 8:07:06 AM



100% delusional.

9/9/2012 9:20:05 AM
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