Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly (R), an ardent opponent of abortion rights, said that today's date would live in infamy alongside those two other historic occasions. Wednesday marked the day on which a controversial new requirement by the Department of Health and Human Services, which requires health insurance companies to cover contraceptive services for women, goes into effect.
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Let me put this in no uncertain terms: if you are opposed to sex education and contraception, then you have no right calling yourself religious. At least in theory, all religions wish to alleviate the suffering of the poor and downtrodden. By doing something that can only serve to keep people in poverty, like denying them simple and readily available services and information about sex and pregnancy prevention, then you are making poverty worse.
And if your religion makes demands of its followers that can only serve to make poverty worse, then I don't think it has much right to call itself a religion.
Right because you no longer have the right to not take contraceptives, you no longer have the right to speak your mind, you nog longer have the right to assembly, you no longer have the right to pray, to read the bible all because somebody might actually use a contraceptive. It is not a religious right to tell others what they can or cannot do.
But congrats on dodging Godwins Law, Pearl Harbour and 9/11 were really just as bad as someone actually taking a pill.
What about the date that the southern states started their rebellion? And the day the KKK had a big march in washington? And the day three civil rights activists were murdered? And all this was done by inhabitants of red states.
The same red states who support your attack on America.
Yeah. That day. Not the day in Tucson, where a Congresswoman was gunned down as she met with her constituents and her aide, a federal judge, and a nine-year- old girl were all killed. Not the more recent day in Aurora, where a gunman opened fire in a theater. Not the day shortly to follow, when Sikhs would be murdered at prayer right in Wisconsin. That day. When women could get coverage for pills, sponges, and diaphragms. Because eggs have more right to life than living people. Yet I bet the hypocrite ate them for breakfast.
"I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom. That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates."
I realize you're a politician so you likely can't help it, but do try to turn down the hyperbole just a notch or two.
Can you show chapter and verse from the Bible where it says "You may not use contraceptives"? No, Genesis 1:28 will not do as we HAVE filled the Earth already, it's now dangerously overpopulated in fact.
In what way is your religious freedom attacked? YOU still have the right to believe in whatever religion you want, and live by the rules of that religion. What you don't have is any right to force others to believe your way. Other people ALSO have the right to believe in whatever religion they want, or no religion at all, if that's what they want.
When I was a teenager and started using contraceptives that was partly paid for by our universal health care, Sweden still had a State Church, I was still sort of Christian. If a truly Christian nation like Sweden managed to do it without starting Armageddon, I'm sure America, which has had separation of church and state from day one, will be fine doing it too.
he missed out 6 August and 9 August, 2 days when the US unleashed hellfire on 2 cities.
Regardless of the right or wrong, to forget is to forget what we humans are capable of....
Contraception is the most reliable way to prevent abortions.
But it's not about preventing abortions, is it? Why can't you just admit you're jealous that some people are having more sex than you, so you're trying to stop them by any means possible?
Oh for... honestly, the announcement of the Rise of the Triad remake couldn't have come at a better time, because I'm probably gonna have to vent some serious aggression. Relatively speaking of course. I might have to extend my sabbatical of this site, because I'm dealing with a lot of my own stuff too.
Like others have said, how, exactly, are you being harmed by this? Just because contraceptives are covered by health insurance doesn't mean you have to use them. Just like the legalization of abortions doesn't require you to have one.
You mean like the day I got my first job and had to pay taxes, which then went to supporting the infrastructure that allows churches to operate, even though they never have to pay taxes for them, thus effectively forcing me to subsidize these churches' operations?
Hey Mike, contraceptives =/= abortion! Requiring coverage for contraceptives is not the same as making women take them...let alone making them have an abortion! I would facepalm, but I don't want to bruise my face or break my glasses!
To all you who say birth control=/= abortion:
For many fundies they are the same. To them, replacing surgical abortion with drug abortion is still killing babies. It is no more different in their minds than murdering an adult with a gun or with poison.
I can't believe that you'd have the balls to compare the two biggest tragedies in the history of the USA to women getting insurance coverage for contraception. This isn't an attack on religion at all. Their is nothing in any religious book prohibiting contraception, and even if there were people shouldn't be forced to follow your idiotic beliefs. It pains me that someone as stupid as you managed to get elected to public office.
"I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom."
Are you being stopped from believing in what you want to believe in? No? Then STFU since you still have all your religious freedom.
On the other hand, you don't have the freedom to force others into acting according to your beliefs... that's attacking their religious freedom.
In other words, go fucking cry somewhere else you ignorant hypocritical fuckwit.
If you seriously think that your "religious freedom" entitles you to tell other people how to live their lives, you have a very poor grasp of what freedom is.
Furthermore, to liken the loss of this said "freedom" to Pearl Harbor and the September 11th attacks is absurdist hyperbole, and, frankly, disgusting.
The Pill DOES NOT CAUSE ABORTION!! It prevents ovulation by faking out your body through the use of hormones. If an egg actually manages to emerge, the Pill prevents implantation. The scientific definition of "pregnancy" is "implantation of a fertilized egg in the uterine wall." No implantation - no pregnancy.
The Pill does have a failure rate of approximately 1%. So IF an egg emerges, and IF it is fertilized, and IF it implants - guess what? YOU'RE PREGNANT!! Without either a surgical abortion or use of a drug such as RU-486 to induce abortion, YOU'RE HAVING A BABY! (banging head on desk)
You know, it's not the hate, it's the stupidity that gets me ...
You are not forced to do anything. You do not have to get an abortion if your wife is pregnant or anything. Your rights have not been compromised. Allowing someone to do something does not compromise your rights, and, as far as I see, as long as it's not dangerous, then there's no reason to oppose it.
That is a day that will live in infamy, along with those other dates.
Methinks it'll live alongside dates like NY officially allowing gay marriage. Over a year later, I don't actually remember which day it was off the top of my head. Something tells me 5 years down the line people will still remember August 1 more for being the anniversary of MTV's launch than this event.
As sickening as Kelly's words are, it gets better.
In response, the longest serving senator (Democrat from Hawaii since 1963), Daniel Inouye, severely criticized him.
Inouye lost his arm fighting in World War II and saw the Pearl Harbor attack with his own eyes.
Should have thought that one through, Kelly!
I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom.
Huh? I thought that the infamous attack on our religious freedom was when we were told we couldn't burn witches, couldn't discriminate against Jews, had to stop stoning Catholics, and when stores were allowed to open on Sundays.
Two dangerous weapons in the war against the almighty and everlasting God:
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"I want you to remember August the 1st, 2012, the attack on our religious freedom.
What freedom is that? The freedom to impose your religious beliefs on everybody else at the point of a gun?
Aug 1 is my B-day! I though Hiromichi Tanaka being shit-canned for incompetence...er retiring for health reasons, from Square-Enix, and his last day being on the 1st was the greatest present evar. Having a bunch of fundies feeling all butt hurt is just icing on the cake I guess.
Dear Pennsylvania Rep. Mike Kelly (R)!
When I read bullshit like yours, I truly wish Japan had bombed a lot more than just Pearl Harbor!
So, let me get this right. If you own a company and you help pay for people's health insurance you get to decide what medical treatments they get? What if you just pay them money, do you get to decide how they spend that too?
Yeah, you're insane. GDIAF
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Indeed, that day when companies designed to pay people's medical bills were finally forced to pay people's medical bills was an unforgivable atrocity. It's the most blatantly tautological form of fascism I've seen since that tyrannical ruling wherein the Supreme Court said that the Supreme Court has the power to say stuff. Although, it is perhaps more directly reminiscent of Abraham Lincoln's bizarre insistence that humans are in fact human, in that it will be largely ignored by Southerners.
That was really fun to write. Made me feel like Stephen Motherfucking Colbert.
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