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A small amount of confusion on this - there were in fact, TWO individuals born within a relatively short time span of each other, one in Kenya, the other somewhere in US jurisdiction (may or may not have been Hawaii), bearing the name “Barack Hussein Obama”, and both purportedly the offspring of Barack Hussein Obama the Senior. One was designated “Junior”, the other the suffix “II” or “the Second”.

My contention is that the Current Occupant of the Oval Office may not, in fact, be the genetic descendant of BHO Senior, but the love child of Stanley Dunham and an as yet unidentified woman who was an American of African descent. Stanley Anne Dunham faked the pregnancy and entered into a marriage of convenience with Senior, for the express purpose of disguising the misdeed of her father. The child was delivered, not in Hawaii, but in or near Seattle, Washington, whisked away to Hawaii, and a “certificate of live birth” was created to cover this clandestine transfer. Unfortunately, everybody who would have been privy to any or all of this information is now deceased.

I want to see some DNA evidence.

alloysteel, Free Republic 28 Comments [8/13/2012 3:46:15 AM]
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Percy Q. Shunn

jesus fucking christ

8/13/2012 3:49:32 AM

Leighton Buzzard

... so, he's American, right?

8/13/2012 4:30:19 AM

Raised by Horses

And we want you birthers to show us the results of your IQ tests. But we can't always get what we want.

8/13/2012 4:51:56 AM

Power Skunk

*grinningpear.jpg* Lolwut?

8/13/2012 5:26:32 AM

Doubting Thomas

the love child of Stanley Dunham and an as yet unidentified woman who was an American of African descent.

OK, someone please tell me how this is supposed to work? Last time I checked, it was still physically impossible for two women to procreate with each other.

The child was delivered, not in Hawaii, but in or near Seattle, Washington, whisked away to Hawaii, and a “certificate of live birth” was created to cover this clandestine transfer.

You're doing this conspiracy theory wrong, because this idea would make him a natural-born citizen. And why would having a baby in Seattle and hurrying to Hawaii and faking a birth certificate make any sense at all?

8/13/2012 5:30:03 AM


Just admit that your main reason to deny that he's a citizen is because he's black. We all figured it out ages ago anyway.

8/13/2012 5:48:03 AM

Filin De Blanc

Obama is his own brother now? The birthers get more and more ridiculous every day. I guess it's that or just outright scream "I DON'T WANT NO NEGRO AS PRESIDENT" which is what this is really all about.

8/13/2012 6:08:26 AM


Oh for fuck’s sake, this is getting way past ridiculous.

After Obama released not only one but two identical versions of his birth certificate they are now demanding DNA samples!?

So where is the “other Barack Obama”? And why the transfer of the new born from Seattle to Hawaii? And how did they bring the Hawaiian authorities to issue the birth certificate? And where is the birth certificate from Seattle? And where the hell did this Seattle thing come from anyway? And why would it be necessary that Obama’s mother would claim the child as her own if the “real mother” just could have not give the name of the father? And if everybody who knew about this is now dead, how do you know about it?

And what exactly would be accomplished with this conspiracy?

And why am I thinking about this BS if it only makes my head hurt from the stupidity? :-(

8/13/2012 7:22:09 AM

You birthers just keep moving the goalposts, don't you.

8/13/2012 8:21:47 AM

Joe Mama

The birthers are getting so ridiculous these days, they might as well claim that Obama is the result of an unholy union between Darth Vader and Lord Voldemort. I don't know why anyone takes them seriously, if anyone actually does.

8/13/2012 8:59:38 AM


Okay, according to this person, Obama is the son of some unknown American man (assuming that "woman" was a typo), not BHO senior, and was born in Seattle, then flown to Hawaii where they faked his birth.

1, If the birth certificate is fake anyway, why even bring up the brother?
2. Why Hawaii? Why not just do this in Seattle?
3. According to your story, Barack is a natural born citizen no matter who his father was. So why question his parentage? What does a dna test accomplish?
4. Where is the brother?

8/13/2012 9:50:44 AM



8/13/2012 11:45:13 AM

The Anonymous

I don't get why birthers have to keep on making up random shit like this. Is it because he's a BLACK MAN and his name is BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, which isn't American sounding and sounds like SADDAM HUSSEIN or OSAMA BIN-LADEN?

Probably. But too bad you'll be dealing with Barack for another four years at the rate this is going!

8/13/2012 2:22:44 PM

Oh My Dog!

How likely is it that the birthers would actually accept DNA evidence?

I have my doubts.

8/13/2012 4:14:49 PM


"Unfortunately, everybody who would have been privy to any or all of this information is now deceased."
So you're admitting you have not one scrap of evidence for this "contention" of yours. In any case, what would it matter, since either way, he's an American citizen and therfore a legitimate President? My contention is that you, "alloysteel", are in fact a cyborg sent from the future to sow doubt and unrest throughout the world. I want to see some DNA evidence.

8/13/2012 5:39:36 PM

J. James

"A small amount of confusion on this"

Summary: There were two Barack Hussein Obamas, both born to a father of the same name. Unlikely, but okay, let's assume that happened. One was born in Kenya. The other is American either way. It is ambiguous which one carried the suffix "Junior" and "the second".

The claimant goes on to say that the current President is not a descendant of Barack Obama Sr., and instead is the love-child of Stanley Anne Dunham and an unknown African-American woman(note: it is biologically impossible for two females to reproduce, and even more impossible for them to produce male offspring, at least with 1960's technology). Stanley Anne Dunham is then claimed to have married Barack Obama Sr. out of "convenience", and to disguise the misdeed of her father, whatever that might be. Lastly, the President was delivered in Seattle, Washington, and then completely without motive, the baby president was issued his birth certificate in the state of Hawaii.

End results: Kenyan Barack Obama is not even tangentially related to the events. The President is still a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama Sr. is not the father, and the President is the miracle offspring of two women.

Verdict: Delusional.

Recommendation: internment in a minimum-security sanitarium. Possible candidate for euthanasia or castration, in order to preserve the gene pool.

8/13/2012 5:57:33 PM


8/13/2012 7:49:34 PM


Oh? Really? So you're telling Barrack Obama is not really Barrack Obama? And what does this prove, actually? How does this make the current US president illegitimate, by not being who he thinks he is? People are who they want themselves to be, name change and identity and everything including. And why does it even matter if he was born in Seattle or Hawaii? If anything it would make him even more of a natural born citizen. Your arguement is so flawed, it actually is argueing the opposite of what you think it does.

8/13/2012 10:24:10 PM


@ Doubting Thomas & J. James:

No, as delusional as this guy is, he does not imply that two women had offspring.

BO's mother and his grandfather are both named Stanley Dunham:


So he thinks that the guy now residing in the White House is not the son of Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Obama’s mother) but the son of Stanley Armour Dunham (Barack Obama’s grandfather).

But this still does not explain the purpose of this conspiracy and what it would matter if it was true…

8/13/2012 11:20:50 PM

Doubting Thomas


OK, that makes a bit more sense, since I was unaware of Obama's grandfather's name.

Of course, it makes it even harder for the conspiracy theory to be true, because hospitals don't often fake birth certificates by claiming that a child was born to a different mother. Nor do they just fill out birth certificates for children born in other states and presented at the hospital in order to get the birth certificate.

8/14/2012 5:46:24 AM




That just raises further questions!!
*Edit* Thanks Rabb, that should come in handy.

8/14/2012 9:46:04 AM

Rabbit of Caerbannog


Here ya go:

8/14/2012 12:52:42 PM

J. James


OHHHH. Holy cow, so he's saying that Barack Obama's half-sister pretended she was his mother to hide the fact that his grandfather is really his father, and then went to live with his grandparents who were actually his father and stepmother?


8/14/2012 3:12:51 PM



That just raises further questions!!

Do you think I don’t know that!? *sob*

I think this is the worst conspiracy theory I have ever heard.

It needs countless people to work, several laws have to be broken, official documents, flight records, newspaper announcements etc. need to be forged and/or destroyed.

And all that to accomplish absolutely nothing?

Even if it is true, what would change? BO would still be a natural born citizen and would still be president.

8/14/2012 11:41:58 PM


After you guys get DNA evidence and refuse it, what will you demand next?

8/15/2012 3:20:11 AM

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