Police in Grand Rapids, Michigan say that there was nothing they could do after Bible-preaching protesters threatened to rape and murder pro-LGBT activists at a “Gay Day” event over the weekend.
In a video posted to YouTube, several protesters with Bibles can be seen shouting at a woman celebrating in the inaugural “Gay Day” celebration, an event organized by the human rights group Tolerance, Equality and Awareness Movement (TEAM) to showcase the community’s diversity.
“Back in the day there was no free power, there was no going to the mall,” one protester tells the woman. “There was, ‘sit your ass in this house until I bring my ass home.’”
“And if your ass get to going out there like you said, guess what?” a second protester adds. “You get raped. And that’s what’s going to happen to you. … Keep your pussy clean, that’s all you need to do. Do you understand?”
After one man claims, “the Lord said that,” the woman challenges him to find the corresponding Bible verse.
He responds with Isaiah 13: “Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.”
“What does ‘ravished’ mean? It means, we going to rape your ass,” the protester explains. “And I’m going to have fun doing that shit. And you going to like that. I promise you.”
After briefly arguing that he is misinterpreting the Bible, the woman observes, “Anything I say, you say it doesn’t matter.”
“It’s going to matter right now,” the man shoots back. “It’s going to matter when your clothes off and I’m going inside of you repeatedly. That’s when it’s going to matter. Because you going to enjoy yourself.”
. . . WWMT reported that the men were part of a Christian black supremacist group called the Black Hebrew Israelites. According to the South Poverty Law Center, the quickly spreading movement preaches “a frightening, racist theology that says Jesus Christ is returning soon to kill or enslave white people, Jews, homosexuals, and others.”
Certain cultures practice “corrective rape” to “correct” the sexual orientation of Lesbian women.
Unnamed Protestors, Raw Story 76 Comments
[8/29/2012 5:34:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 91
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Jordab the Folf
Yeah, we have to protect our children from the perverted depraved LGBTs. Pfft..
Also, major props to the woman for keeping so cool-headed about this.
8/29/2012 6:27:58 PM
Jesus must be so proud of you guys.
EDIT: I agree this sounds like it should have been a police matter. Expressing an opinion (however twisted) is one thing, making threats is something else and shouldn't be covered by freedom of speech. But to be fair to the cops, maybe they didn't have enough evidence to act. Unless someone actually videoed the guy making the threat, how could it be proved in court that he actually made this threat? Not saying he didn't, just wondering if proving it might be difficult.
8/29/2012 8:02:24 PM
@ Anon-e-moose: It's going off topic slightly, but what's so great about a nanny state? I don't want the government trying to meddle in my life and regulate my every move, any more than I want religious nuts trying to do the same. I believe in individual freedom of choice.
8/29/2012 8:50:34 PM
Nanny state was in semi-quotes. That said, fuck mentioning the UK every single comment. You'd think he's making bank on tourism.
8/30/2012 12:34:29 AM
The police didn't respond...until now. This lady is smart & strong & she taped the whole thing! It's all over YouTube and with the way the public is with this sort of thing, they'll be clamoring for justice! Lax lawmakers usually don't do the right thing until there is a big stink.
(video is on this page)
(Uncensored version on YouTube)
This story may have a happy end & considering the way the fuzz tends to be with people of color (which is unfortunate but may be a good thing in this), these guys are hopefully gonna taste their own meds via Bubba in the cell, soon. These these rape-obsessed guys are going to act like a bunch of stereotypes, they have to get called out! The late great MLK Jr. is rolling in his grave!
8/30/2012 2:32:23 AM
Methinks the local cops should rethink their entire career choice!
8/30/2012 2:37:03 AM
The bible. Turning potentially decent people into hateful bastards for two millennia.
Oh, and I can see where Anon-e-moose is coming from, and I am not even British.
8/30/2012 2:45:52 AM
WTF. And the police thought this was ok? They must be fundies too.
Isaiah 13 is possibly one of the best reasons NOT to be christian.
8/30/2012 3:42:19 AM
Damn, Grand Rapids, MI must get their cops from the same place Tacoma, WA does. I mean, T-town did hire David Brame as Chief, but to not take action when a crime (a threat is a crime, right?) is committed right in front of them???
Hope the cop's mama is proud. </s>
8/30/2012 4:11:48 AM
So.. I've thought this a couple of times when reading FSTDT: What is it with some of you (American) guys and this mythological Bubba inmate character?
BHI: Here, have a taste of 'corrective rape'
FSTDT posters: Here, have a taste of 'corrective rape' (by Bubba proxy)
It's weird how you've got a humouristic niche, in which rape is presented as 'funny' - you've got all these 'don't bend over to pick up the bar of soap' and 'big Bubba' gags going on in US comedy that are really quite sinister.
It's like an (underhanded) affirmation of violence: No, ofcourse we don't condone these kinds of things in polite company, but deep down, and when push comes to shove.., and with 'scum-of-the-earth' people like prison inmates, well.. they're just getting what they deserve.
Not to mention, of course, that it's always male gay rape that is presented as 'funny' - here's a bit of the old hatred for womanly man, who bends over, blended into the mixture.
Anyway, crazy fuckers those Christian Black Hebrew Israelites, huh?
8/30/2012 4:15:43 AM
Why was that not assault, stalking, and breach of the peace? Those cops must have been on the side of the perps.
8/30/2012 5:05:49 AM
Good point, but on the other hand, if our 'Nanny State' means that we don't have an equivalent of Fred Phelps & the WBC, I have no problem with that. And even if the ban (imposed by our previous Home Secretary Jacqui Smith) on Fred & the WBC from entering the UK was lifted, Sections 4 & 5 of the Public Order Act would mean that if they dared to try their anti-LGBT bullshit here, they'd be fucked. Again, I have no problem with that. If there's one thing we Brits don't tolerate, it's intolertance.
Seeing as so many commenters are in the US, it's necessary to point out the differences. Knowledge can only be a good thing, especially of other countries - and their attitudes. And of course if said quoted fundies deign to show their faces here to try and justify their bullshit, then said education about differing attitudes outside their own little comfort zone (that they're clearly extremely ignorant about), is necessary to point out said differences in attitudes - and thinking.
Don't blame me, blame the fundies for being morons; especially their ignorance of the wider world.
8/30/2012 7:56:37 AM
@Anon-e-moose: Personally I associate the term 'nanny state' with the government trying to control what I eat / drink / do / view /listen to / think. I know, for example, that alcohol is bad for me, but if I choose to drink it anyway, that should be my choice. If some of the 'health fascists' in government had their way, I wouldn't have that right to make my own choice.
As for silencing these pedlars of hate speech.....you know, I can understand why you want do that, but sometimes I think that's actually not the best way to deal with them. Sometimes, I think letting them speak is the best way to show them up for the arseholes they are. Look at Nick Griffin and the BNP. Everyone was saying to censor him, give him no platform, and for a time the BNP's support was rising. Then Griffin was allowed to appear on TV. Lo and behold, he was instantly exposed for the utter dimwit muppet that he is. The BNP has never recovered and the thing that totally wrecked their credibility was actually allowing them to speak. Griffin did far more to discredit himself than his opponents ever could.
8/30/2012 8:12:06 AM
@ AJ: That is my prediction for him if he continues to believe as he does and it motivates him to rape someone.
So go fuck yourself.
8/30/2012 10:07:40 AM
Yes, you're special, your part of the rock is special, etc. I'm sure the fundies will take that into consideration.
8/30/2012 11:14:04 AM
I just want to know why these guys are so obsessed with rape. I read or hear about these weirdos and they're always emphasizing raping women. They don't just go "We're gonna kill whitey!" It's always "We're gonna kill whitey & rape their women hard in the blahblahblah rapedyraperaperape...."
It's like a Peter Wyngarde novelty tune except it's a bunch of black guys instead of one white British actor cranking out a crappy record. They're like the ethnic hate group equivalent of "Night Shift Nurses". Good gravy! Get a "Fleshlight" & stop being cartoonishly stereotypical! YEESH!
Honestly, I can't tell the difference!
8/30/2012 12:12:33 PM
A brilliant example of why multiculturalism doesn't work.
8/30/2012 1:48:32 PM
But remember kids, adultery and sex outside marriage is a sin. Sodoma and Gomorrah were an abomination
8/30/2012 2:29:50 PM
These Black Hebrew Israelites, besides painting themselves as victims with their supposed Jewish origins, give ammo for people such as Anonymous Posters #1440559 and #1441186 to fire their racist comments with. This is why we can't have nice things.
8/30/2012 2:54:05 PM
Apparently the inbred hillbilly monopoly on religious idiocy has been broken.
8/30/2012 8:32:17 PM
What the fuck. I swear, fundamentalist = brain damaged.
9/1/2012 1:19:23 PM
My, what a peaceful, kind religion...
9/1/2012 1:49:57 PM
Disgusting. And my family and other black people say that we (blacks) can't be racist. Sad, really, as I'm black AND LGBT. I agree with pitting them against the Christian Identity idiots and video taping the resulting carnage.
9/1/2012 6:36:25 PM
B-b-but I thought rape culture was something hysterical fat femnazis hallucinated after OD'ing on ice cream!
9/1/2012 8:59:15 PM
Can I cry now? Please? Dear goodness, what a sick bastard.
9/2/2012 10:41:55 AM
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