Right. Sit across from a gay and tell him “his family” - which family? The one he created using an egg donor and a surrogate womb, from a woman who had to sell herself for his big gay bucks? And the child who will have to be told this by his two Daddies? Maybe such a family is NOT a good idea after all???
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Maybe right-wing conservative Christians having families is not a good idea after all. Seems like they always produce idiots like scottjewell.
And someone please tell me how a website called "Free Republic" is home to a bunch of fascist idiots who want to ban anything they disagree with? Is that like communist totalitarian dictatorships having "democratic republic" in the name?
There are straight people who also have to resort to donor egg or sperm, to adoption or to surrogate mothers, it's not a specific gay issue, stupid. All families are a bit different, ya know. For example; my family is me, my husband and our two cats.
Btw, what were you going to tell him about his family? That first sentence seems a bit stunted. And how do you know that the woman HAD to sell herself? There are people in this world who genuinely want to help people, not to score points with Big Daddy In The Sky, but to make people happy.
What, you have to have children solely by sexual intercourse with your wife/husband? So, adoption is bad, yes?
So are you saying that adopted kids aren't family either? Because I know people with adopted kids that treat EXACTLY like their biological kids. Also, if the two daddies love the kid, feed the kid, clothe the kid, educate the kid, and go to the kid's basketball games what the hell does it matter if the kid has two daddies?
Maybe such a family is NOT a good idea after all???
But let me guess, an abusive, alcoholic dad who beats the mom and kids is better than a loving gay couple, right?
"Maybe such a family is NOT a good idea after all???"
Maybe, but you haven't actually made any argument as to why that might be the case. This is why people don't take your side seriously--you can't form any sort of cogent argument in favor of your opinion as it always just boils down to "gay people are icky" and you end up sounding like a five year old talking about the opposite sex. Your only other option is on religious grounds, and even that isn't a very good argument when your own holy book says more about the evils of eating shellfish than it does about homosexuals.
Big gay bucks, Scotty?
I know what's in your closet.
Come back in a decade or so. I'm sure Zachary Jackson Levon Furnish-John will tell you he doesn't mind in the slightest that he has 'Two Daddies' - Elton John and David Furnish - as he has two doting parents regardless. Oh, and on the subject of same-sex parents, remember:
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That's as in Joseph, and God.
I love the smell of annihilated arguments in the morning. Smells like... victory.
"Maybe such a family is NOT a good idea after all???"
Well, you could try to provide some evidence to support your position.
Don't be so hard on Scott. When two men go through all this trouble to have a child, it guarantees one thing: that this child was wanted at least once in its life. With all the trouble fundies have with the concept of love, we can't be shocked to find out he's jealous!
*sigh*
What the freaks seem to forget is that most children of gay people were conceived and born in the standard heterosexual manner. Many, if not most, gay people spend a period of their lives as straight before they recognize and/or accept their sexuality and a great many of them have children. Adoption and "artificial" means are the minority.
Scott, you're a nosy little moron. The only thing that matters, is that the children are in a good home.
Off topic: Is (Un)Free Republic EVER going to update their site design? As much as JimRob whines about money, he doesn't seem to spend much on his site. It's still 1996 over there! *LOL*
Gay families are so weird, right? How can they possibly be normal and have relationships, feelings, and emotions like regular human beings, gosh. Like straight parents never use artificial methods, surrogates, donors, adopt, have step children etc... Those families are FREAKY.
The only people who should have and deserve families are the *good Christians.* Because they never make mistakes or do or say shitty, unspeakable things, of course.
Actually the best comment in that post is where scottjewell bemoans that if he hadn't been "conceived naturally" in marriage would it would "irk" him. Because that's the most important thing, that your father spooged into your mummy at just the right time.
That and the one where someone says that gays want "new rights" and gays wanting rights is nothing like the civil rights movement because "The civil rights movement was about [gaining] access to existing rights."
Hmm... I know a gay couple who adopted two girls who had previously been abused by their REAL parents. They love their daddy and pappy, and are fully aware of their relationship. It hasn't harmed them at all, so you're retarded.
After considering your position scottjewell, I have come to the conclusion that YOU having any children is not such a good idea.
@ Arnold Facepalmer ( I luv that handle btw)-it's more like gay suck envy. Poor bastard.
Hey, I'd rather a child raised by two committed, loving people, regardless of their sexual orientation and the way in which they obtained said child (except kidnapping.) And you're making all sorts of assumptions, what if the surrogate woman in question was a close friend or just wanted to be a surrogate mother? They're not evil sluts, you know?
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