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Nazism was primarily a partyof the petty bourgeoisie, not socialists. If people in 1933 had wanted left wing they would have voted for the Communist party, and indeed many of them did.
8/28/2012 6:23:02 AM
Yes, Hitler was of the same ilk as Stalin. That's why he went to war with Russia.
8/28/2012 6:28:43 AM
Filin De Blanc
The only issue where Hitler and the Republican party differ is on treatment of the Jewish. Other than that, all of Hitler's views are mainstream Republican - anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-evolution, pro-death penalty...
8/28/2012 6:30:57 AM
Percy Q. Shunn
I'm afraid that Glenn Beck is not the source for credible answers to social/political issues and questions. What you see directly in front of you is known as a "computer." This magical device, born of science -not witchcraft- can guide you to solutions; as long as you use something other than Conservapedia or Right Wing Watch as a search engine. Don't be afraid to expand your horizons!
8/28/2012 6:34:21 AM
So Republican are socialists because their representative color is red?
Also, weren't nazis explicitly anti-communists?
8/28/2012 6:36:29 AM
@Percy Q. Shunn
Right Wing Watch is actually a Progressive site. A watchdog against goofy Right Wingers, hence "Right Wing WATCH".
8/28/2012 6:38:56 AM
Remember he was National Socialist Party.
You know how repressive regimes like to call themselves 'of the people', 'democratic', and 'socialist', when they really aren't?
Like "the People's Democratic Republic of Korea"?
It's like that with the Nazis.
8/28/2012 6:46:18 AM
Isn't the Family Research Council the one that supported the death penalty for gays in Uganda? That sounds more like Hitler than anything SPLC or any other prominent left wing group has done. Oh and campaigning for a death penalty for gays absolutely makes you a hate group. If that doesn't qualify you as a hate group then I don't know what does. Do you need to have lynch mobs that walks through the streets with the corpses of dead homosexuals before you're considered a hate group?
8/28/2012 7:05:31 AM
The Nazis massacred socialists. The Nazis were right wing and people who proclaim otherwise should be beaten to death with a history book.
8/28/2012 7:08:36 AM
"And remember, they also called Hitler right-wing, as well."
Now, I wonder why they would do such a thing...
"I don’t mean SPLC, but people today on the left refer to Hitler as right-wing and compare conservatives to Hitler."
If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
"Hitler was anything but right-wing. Remember he was National Socialist Party."
And? The KKK claims to not be a hate group, simply a bunch of like-minded Patriots who are "defending the rights" of white Americans. A group can call itself whatever the hell it likes and it can claim anything it wants--it's what the group actually does that determines things like which side of the political spectrum it falls on, and Nazis sure as hell weren't on the left.
8/28/2012 7:09:34 AM
Metallic Space Dragon
Come on, you know that outside of killing Jews (at least until the Second Coming, in which you think of them as cannon fodder for your god) you want to do the same things that Hitler did, like set up a totalitarian regime and force everyone else to adopt the same beliefs you have.
8/28/2012 7:18:50 AM
"And remember, they also called Hitler right-wing, as well. I don’t mean SPLC, but people today on the left refer to Hitler as right-wing and compare conservatives to Hitler. Hitler was anything but right-wing."
The right wants to outlaw abortion.
Nazi Germany outlawed abortion.
The right wants to eliminate gay rights.
Nazi German eliminated gay rights.
The right wants to ouutlaw the teaching of modern biology.
Nazi Germany outlawed the teaching of modern biology.
The right opposes a secular state.
Nazi Germany beheaded the leader of a German secular organasation.
So the difference between the right and Nazi Gemany is the right wishes it could do what Nazi Germany actually did.
They can't because there are more liberals in America than there were in Nazi Germany.
8/28/2012 7:18:55 AM
"anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, Marxist organization called the Southern Poverty Law Center"
-anti-American: they fight groups really anti-American and try to protect the constitutionnal rights of the people;
-anti-Christian: they aren't against Christian but against the extremist hateful fringe;
-anti-Semitic: they denounce antisemitic groups (KKK, neonazis, christian identity, nation of islam);
-Marxist: they don't publish articles advocating dictature of the proletariat.
"These people are dangerous, they are evil, and my question is, Glenn [Beck], who are they to have any authority to declare anybody a ‘hate group.’"
They are a group whose mission is to inform the population about these extremists and to help their victims in their trials and don't have death squad and terrorists to kill and silence groups they disagree with and thus aren't dangerous nor evil.
They qualify something a hate group if the ideology it prones is based on hate, if it spread hateful ideas or if it use violence to further its ideas.
"And remember, they also called Hitler right-wing, as well. I don’t mean SPLC, but people today on the left refer to Hitler as right-wing and compare conservatives to Hitler. Hitler was anything but right-wing. Remember he was National Socialist Party."
The national-socialism was the offspring of the volkish nationalism, biological racism and social Darwinism, which was spread in the german far-right and conservatives of the time.
It's with the conservatives and right-wingers (DNVP, Stahlhelm) the NSDAP allied (Harzburg pact), not with SDP and KPD, who were the targets of the SA violence.
The NSDAP members who tended to take seriously the "socialist" part of the name were decimated during the Long Knifes Night (Roehm, the Strasserites, some SA bigwigs, etc)
8/28/2012 7:27:43 AM
"one of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the ‘prophets’ of a new sexual order."
"homosexuality gave us Adolph Hitler, and homosexuals in the military gave us the Brown Shirts, the Nazi war machine and 6 million dead Jews."
Gee. Why would anyone label the FRC a hate group just for accusing gay people of wanting to legalize sex with children and claiming they were responsible for the Holocaust? [/sarcasm]
Remember he was National Socialist Party
And North Korea is the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea, so that proves they're Democrats!
8/28/2012 7:30:05 AM
who are they to have any authority to declare anybody a ‘hate group.’
Same authority you got to call SPLC 'evil people'. Hypocrite.
8/28/2012 7:36:43 AM
Filin De Blanc
Also, I like how he starts off by going on about how "hate group" is completely unjustified, then immediately goes on a hateful, defamatory screed about how the SPLC is anti-Semitic and stuff. Yeah, that's not hateful at all.
8/28/2012 7:43:09 AM
You can call your political group anything regardless of its political bent. The Nazis were not supporting socialism, they were a nationalist, expansionist, fascist bunch. The murdered socialists.
8/28/2012 7:55:27 AM
Here's how you justify calling the FRC a hate group. Let them talk for five minuets.
8/28/2012 8:03:15 AM
Raised by Horses
"anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, Marxist organization called the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is just an evil group of people."
Why, that doesn't sound hateful in the slightest. I wonder what those flywheels were thinking?
8/28/2012 8:08:03 AM
Once someone goes with "Hitler was a leftist" all argument is impossible and we can only hope that the moron dies in a fire before he, they are usually if not always "he", kills anyone else.
8/28/2012 8:30:03 AM
In order for you to understand the subtle nuances of political groupings, you first need to stop believing that Glenn fucking Beck is a source of information. Until then, you're a lost cause
8/28/2012 8:44:39 AM
To answer your question, the SPLC defines a "hate group" as any organization that denigrates entire groups of people over attributes that are beyond the control over the group being denigrated, and has done so for more than 40 years now.
By those standards, then, the only legitimate criticism I can level against the SPLC for its classification of the FRC as a hate group, is: why aren't other, equally anti-gay groups also considered hate groups?
8/28/2012 8:50:40 AM
The Crimson Ghost
Glenn Beck is not a good source for reliable answers. He IS however, a great source for comedy. I think his magic underwear is on too tight.
8/28/2012 8:50:51 AM
Jerry is pretty clueless.
8/28/2012 8:56:23 AM
Perhaps we should start comparing Tea Partiers to Mussolini instead, and see how they spin that?
(I know, I know ... he started out as a Socialist. But do they know that?)
8/28/2012 9:04:17 AM
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