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God and the United States are merged very strongly.

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This needs a thread all by its self. Some are having trouble in understanding elementary school civics. In elementary civics we teach the "separation o church and state" whereas we do not teach "separation of state and God." As difficult as this concept is for some liberals who try to twist American freedom into some type of humanism and moral relativity, Americans have chosen an absolute God as the bases of government. Why can some of you not see our freedoms folks not grasp the truth that Americans have never given up their faith in God? Americans have used the instructions of God to build on the Rock our freedoms and liberties into our government.

America is unique among democratic countries because we have kept God as a provider of our self-evident rights. If we allow humanist and liberals to take God out of government. as we rightly have done the church. we no longer have an authority for America;s greatness. When God is gone then we are gone as a unique country and our freedoms and liberties are gone.


Gadfly, cf 42 Comments [8/30/2012 5:35:20 AM]
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Mister Spak

"God and the United States are merged very strongly. "

Article six. You fail very strongly.

8/30/2012 5:37:24 AM

Percy Q. Shunn

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

8/30/2012 5:46:43 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"Why can some of you not see our freedoms folks not grasp the truth that Americans have never given up their faith in God?"

- Would a "godly" nation have the highest incarceration rate in the world? Would a "godly" nation deny health care to its people simply because they were poor? Would a "godly" nation pander to those in power while lowering the standard of living for the working poor?

If the the USA is being guided by your god then your god is a plague on humanity and should be given up on!

8/30/2012 6:04:12 AM

dionysus

I can only assume that it's Opposite Day. Nobody could possibly be this wrong about everything without it being deliberate.

8/30/2012 6:07:20 AM

John_in_Oz

All Americans worship almighty Zeus!

8/30/2012 6:09:15 AM

Oh My Dog!

What this boils down to is that you want a theocracy.

It isn't going to happen if I can help it.


Americans have chosen an absolute God as the bases of government.


Not this American! I don't like your God, I don't have to either, and that is my right. I don't try and force you to follow my beliefs, so I expect the same consideration from you.

Why is that so hard to understand?


8/30/2012 6:26:00 AM

Pule Thamex

Governance by sky fairy. Periocracy.

I'm sure that inhumanists and illiberals will pretend to try and keep a pretend being at the centre of their government.

8/30/2012 6:32:08 AM

SpukiKitty

Uh, the "Church" in "Church & State" refers to God, DUMMY!

8/30/2012 6:37:50 AM

Mystik Spiral

You are either a very prolific liar or monumentally stupid. Quite possibly both.

8/30/2012 6:56:33 AM

Arctic Knight

“If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.”

? Stephen Colbert

8/30/2012 7:18:18 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Yeah? who voted for god?

8/30/2012 7:18:55 AM

Horsefeathers

I really don't understand where people like Gadfly get these bizarre ideas.

8/30/2012 7:23:30 AM

Anon-e-moose

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

Click the above, Gadfly. Read it very carefully. Done that, Gadfly? Good. Now, find for me the words 'God', Jesus' and 'Creator' therein. To make things easier, just click 'Edit', then 'Find' on your browser, and type in those words, one after the other.

The phrase 'When you see it (or in this case, not) you'll shit bricks'. It exists for a reason. 'When God is gone then we are gone as a unique country and our freedoms and liberties are gone'?! He never fucking existed there in the first place, as your own Constitution proves.

The phrase 'Separation of Church and State'. That exists for a reason; as in 'We the government won't tell you who/how to worship, you the fundies don't have the fucking right to tell us how to run the country'. The reason being that the alternative, as demonstrated by Saudi Arabia & Iran: Theocracies.

Moral: Theocracy. Democracy. Learn the difference. It could save your life. Literally.

8/30/2012 7:32:12 AM

gravematter

I have the feeling that if America was "God's Chosen Country" TM then it would be referreed to in the Bible. There IS nothing unique about the US. It's just a country like any other. Although it does have quite a large proportion of crazies for a "First-World" country. Is that what you meant?

8/30/2012 7:50:50 AM

LAchlan

Shut it you fucking idiot.

8/30/2012 7:51:45 AM

Filin De Blanc

All the people trying to take away your freedoms and liberties are doing it because they think it's God's will.

8/30/2012 8:16:51 AM

J. James

"Why can some of you not see our freedoms folks not grasp the truth that Americans have never given up their faith in God?"

Is that why identifying with a religion in the US has dropped from over 70% in 2005 to just 60% in 2011?

8/30/2012 8:52:23 AM

TomA

"America is unique among democratic countries because we have kept God as a provider of our self-evident rights"

Contradiction. If you have God as provider of "self-evident" rights then you cannot call yourself a democratic country, unless of course you hold regular elections for the position of God, which would be pretty cool now I think about it.

8/30/2012 9:07:08 AM

pete

Somewhere between "the opposite of true" and "not even wrong".

8/30/2012 10:04:19 AM

Quantum Mechanic

'very'

That word you use, it does not mean what you think it means.

8/30/2012 10:07:23 AM

freako104

Umm. Yeah. No words. This is epic stupidity

8/30/2012 10:08:32 AM

fapwank

"Some are having trouble in understanding elementary school civics."

Precisely, namely you.

"When God is gone then we are gone as a unique country and our freedoms and liberties are gone."

That would be the case if the founding fathers hadn't declared the clergy to be enemies of liberty.

"Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not." -- James Madison

"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot." -- Thomas Jefferson

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government." -- Thomas Jefferson

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the Common Law." -- Thomas Jefferson

"The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion." -- Thomas Paine


Etc, etc.

8/30/2012 11:07:15 AM

WWWWolf

> America is unique among democratic countries because we have kept God as a provider of our self-evident rights.

And when European democratic countries have the same "self-evident rights", but do not refer to God, and somehow manage to maintain those human rights at times even better than Americans, what does that tell you?

8/30/2012 11:20:04 AM



Not to worry, Gadfly, Iran and Saudi Arabia still have God very strongly merged with their governments. Feel free to move there!

8/30/2012 11:52:20 AM

checkmate

we have kept God as a provider of our self-evident rights.

Let me guess, you mean the 2nd amendment, right?

And don't forget capital punishment. Jesus just **loves** capital punishment.

8/30/2012 11:55:05 AM
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