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God and the United States are merged very strongly.

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This needs a thread all by its self. Some are having trouble in understanding elementary school civics. In elementary civics we teach the "separation o church and state" whereas we do not teach "separation of state and God." As difficult as this concept is for some liberals who try to twist American freedom into some type of humanism and moral relativity, Americans have chosen an absolute God as the bases of government. Why can some of you not see our freedoms folks not grasp the truth that Americans have never given up their faith in God? Americans have used the instructions of God to build on the Rock our freedoms and liberties into our government.

America is unique among democratic countries because we have kept God as a provider of our self-evident rights. If we allow humanist and liberals to take God out of government. as we rightly have done the church. we no longer have an authority for America;s greatness. When God is gone then we are gone as a unique country and our freedoms and liberties are gone.


Gadfly, cf 42 Comments [8/30/2012 5:35:20 AM]
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Vman

"America is unique among democratic countries because we have kept God as a provider of our self-evident rights."

Sadly, yes. And it's biting your country in the ass - royally.

Also, Treaty of Tripoli. Your founding fathers never intended for America to become Fundieland...

8/30/2012 2:05:25 PM

Meeeh

WWWWolf

And when European democratic countries have the same "self-evident rights", but do not refer to God, and somehow manage to maintain those human rights at times even better than Americans, what does that tell you?


It simply tells him the US needs more gawd!

8/30/2012 2:20:48 PM

fapwank

Speaking of self-evident... using words like liberty and freedom to promote theocracy wouldn't work in that theocratic utopia own little world you live in because you'd be summarily executed for suggesting that in a theocracy. Also, that whole associating conservatism with freedom thing is so ten years ago before the Patriot Act was signed by Dubya.


"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction." -- George W. Bush

8/30/2012 3:04:09 PM

Old Viking

If God is the provider of our rights, what the hell was all that fighting about?

8/30/2012 4:34:43 PM

Ebon

PRATT.

8/30/2012 5:04:16 PM

tracer

"In elementary civics we teach the "separation o church and state" whereas we do not teach "separation of state and God." "


"Are you the Judean People's Front?"

"NO!!! We are the People's Front of Judea!"

8/30/2012 5:45:15 PM

Sasha

Americans are more and more giving up their faith in your god. See J. James' comment. If the number of believers drops by 10% in only 6 years, you're gonna be damn lonely by 2050.

8/30/2012 6:00:40 PM

nazani14


"God provided our rights"
"We built this."

8/30/2012 6:02:53 PM

Doubting Thomas

we teach the "separation o church and state" whereas we do not teach "separation of state and God."

So now they're trying to argue semantics in order to push religion into government? Hey dickhead, separation of church and state is the same thing as separation of state and your or any god. The word "church" in the First Amendment means not just organized religious groups, but religion in general.

Americans have never given up their faith in God

Speak for yourself.

8/31/2012 6:01:18 AM

farpadokly

Separation of state and God? God would come under the heading of religion, ie, the church. The category "church" contains the idea "God".
The bases of your government are the people. In theory anyway.
What exactly are the American "freedoms"? Well, one of them is the right not to go to church if you don't want to. That wasn't always the case in the history of Europe.
"Americans have never given up their faith in God". Some of them have.



8/31/2012 7:35:28 AM

farpadokly

I haven't read the whole Bible. But I don't think there's a part where it says, "Go ye to an as yet undiscovered continent and decimate the native population. Then set up a democratic republic with a congress and a senate patterned after Rome. For there ye shall have freedom of speech and assembly, and the right to bear arms, and not go to church if you don't want". If that were the case, would it not apply to all Christians?
There is a part though about obeying authority because it is instituted by God. God-ordained authority like, you know, King George III.
It's the truths that are self-evident, the rights are "unalienable". Get it right.
Why do you need an "authority" for "greatness"? The authority for rights and freedoms is already there; the Constitution, with its 27 amendments, backed up by the law.
"When God is gone". He's not gonna be "gone" because, as the atheists would have it, he was never there, any more than he was anywhere else. He is also supposed to be eternal, and present at all points anyway.


8/31/2012 7:53:26 AM



"God and the United States are merged very strongly."



8/31/2012 8:01:30 AM

NearlySane

Lying or stupid or both.

8/31/2012 8:02:39 AM

Jordab the Folf

"we teach the "separation o church and state" whereas we do not teach "separation of state and God."" Reading this made my kidney punch itself.

8/31/2012 1:47:42 PM

Justanotheratheist

When, in the history of the USA, was god ever in government?

9/1/2012 2:23:43 AM

tmarcl

While the U.S. is a nation of Christians (at least around 80% of it is), it is not a Christian nation. What you fail to understand is that you are permitted to have all the faith you want. Believe in Jesus and run your life according to your beliefs. No one wants to take that away from you. What we don't want is for you to decide that the remaining 20% of us should be required to live our lives according to your religious beliefs.

This is why we have the separation of church and state that you alluded to. To prevent any one religious belief from forcing it's views on other people who don't believe in that faith. It protects you just as much as it protects everyone else.

9/1/2012 2:24:39 PM

Crimson Lizard

Hey Gadfly, while you're doing that search Anon-e-moose suggested, why don't you try to find the words "human rights" in the Bible? I'll give you a hint: Bubba, they ain't there! The only one with any kind of rights at all in that book is God. Humans are his toys. If you want to be a slave, fine; just stop trying to enslave the rest of us and redefine slavery as freedom.

11/25/2012 9:35:57 AM
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