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In World War II, people died to produce and protect books. Anti-Fascist organizations, American Jewish Groups and writers, editors and journalists launched massive demonstrations in defense of the book, including, on March 10, 1933, the largest march, to that date, in the history of New York City: 100,000 people turned out to express outrage at the burning of books and other events in Germany. In its coverage of the Berlin book burnings, Newsweek used "Holocaust" as its headline.

Today's hi-tech propagandists tell us that the book is a tree-murdering, space-devouring, inferior form that society would be better off without. In its place, they want us to carry around the Uber-Kindle.

The hi-tech campaign to relocate books to Google and replace books with Kindles is, in its essence, a deportation of the literary culture to a kind of easily monitored concentration camp of ideas, where every examination of a text leaves behind a trail, a record, so that curiosity is also tinged with a sense of disquieting fear that some day someone in authority will know that one had read a particular book or essay. This death of intellectual privacy was also a dream of the Nazis. And when I hear the term Kindle, I think not of imaginations fired but of crematoria lit.


Alan Kaufman, Huffington Post 74 Comments [8/30/2012 6:03:57 AM]
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breakerslion

http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_governments

http://www.banned-books.com/bblista-i.html

http://www.alastore.ala.org/bbw?gclid=CPmgl4rZj7ICFYhM4AodAWEA0A

So What's new?

Strangely, Delany's Equinox does not appear in any of those lists. Hmmmm....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox_(novel)

8/30/2012 8:52:00 AM

Jesus H. Christ, M.D.

There is some valid core point about control over information being relinquished there. It wouldn't be the first time that $ebookvendor pulled something off their stores and remotely deleted downloaded copies on all devices...

8/30/2012 9:33:47 AM

freako104

No. Just no. You fail Mr. Kaufman

8/30/2012 9:55:47 AM

Oh My Dog!

A tad paranoid aren't we.

And the Über-kindle? Really?

Not fundie, but still...

And yeah, cstdt.

8/30/2012 10:33:01 AM

OhJohnNo

This is the biggest goddamn godwin I've ever seen.

8/30/2012 10:38:01 AM

WWWWolf

Dude, we've had electronic books for decades. When I came to the Internet in the early 1990s, one of the first things I noticed was the availability of electronic books.

Actually, since Project Gutenberg has been in existence since 1970s, it's pretty likely that everyone who has even a passing interest in literature has run into it.

And why do they do what they do? It's a bloody book preservation effort. They're making copyright-free electronic books available because it allows them to be read by more people in perpetuity.

And the paranoia about privacy is justified - but only for so long. There are book sources (like Gutenberg) who offer books with no DRM. Readers don't want to deal with the hassle caused by DRM. A growing number of authors realise the problem, too. Big publishers are going DRM-less. The direction is toward more openness, not toward a lock-up.

8/30/2012 11:41:56 AM

fapwank

What is this obsession with Hitler and the Nazis amongst Fundamentalists? Christians burned more books than the Nazis did, go blame your imaginary Führer in the sky.

8/30/2012 11:49:23 AM

dp

"In World War II, people died to produce and protect books. Anti-Fascist organizations, American Jewish Groups and writers, editors and journalists launched massive demonstrations in defense of the book, including, on March 10, 1933, the largest march, to that date, in the history of New York City: 100,000 people turned out to express outrage at the burning of books and other events in Germany. In its coverage of the Berlin book burnings, Newsweek used "Holocaust" as its headline.

Today's hi-tech propagandists tell us that the book is a tree-murdering, space-devouring, inferior form that society would be better off without. In its place, they want us to carry around the Uber-Kindle."

because it's the pages that matter, not the words, right?

"The hi-tech campaign to relocate books to Google and replace books with Kindles is, in its essence, a deportation of the literary culture..."

hold on, the books are written in digital format to begin with, so it isn't an effort to move books to digital, but rather it's a not give a shit to print it.

"where every examination of a text leaves behind a trail, a record, so that curiosity is also tinged with a sense of disquieting fear that some day someone in authority will know that one had read a particular book or essay."

if you think someone cares, then you're paranoid. still, you could take measures to hide the fact that you have or ever had a book in digital format, which is harder to do with printed books.

"This death of intellectual privacy was also a dream of the Nazis. And when I hear the term Kindle, I think not of imaginations fired but of crematoria lit."

goodwin's law.

8/30/2012 12:08:13 PM

Pilotess

Books were not destroid because they were made of paper - which comes from trees! Books were destroid for their content. The content is readily available on digital media.

One should concern oneself with people who want to destroy actual content of books, like all the folks that call for banning books from schools and public libraries because they don't agree with the content! That seems facist to me! But what do I know, I'm just an e-reader!


8/30/2012 12:25:06 PM

louislois

Ebooks=Fascism?


8/30/2012 12:58:54 PM

agentCDE

Blah blah NEW MEDIA ARE EEEVIL blah


8/30/2012 1:44:38 PM



Well, idiot, if it was legal to grow hemp, we wouldn't need to worry about cutting down trees to make paper (we could also make better-quality paper cheaper).

8/30/2012 1:49:36 PM



I have eaten dread sugar.

I suddenly have the urge to goose step, heil Hitler, and rant about my gorgeous Aryan appearance. FAAAAAAAAAAABULOUS!!!/Joking

Seriously, the "u r a Nazi" insult is incredibly juvenile.

8/30/2012 2:44:09 PM

Apatheist

It's certainly alarmist, but he has something of a point. If I have a constant internet connection to my Kindle, the publishing company, the people who actually own the book I'm reading, can change the book without my consent and even revoke my license to read it. The words on my book will remain for decades provided I keep it safe from deteriorating factors like water and mold. I doubt a Kindle would hold up that long.

8/30/2012 2:48:39 PM

Anonymous

HAHAHAHA! This guy's still at it? He's been arguing that Kindle's are the death knell of intellect for months.

We need a morons say the darnedest things because this clearly belongs somewhere, but isn't really fundie.

8/30/2012 2:49:15 PM

whatever

A CSTDT Godwin.

I prefer paper books anyway.

8/30/2012 2:58:28 PM

LDM

It took me a while to get sold on ebooks, but now that I have a Kindle, I wonder what I ever did without it. When I moved earlier this month I had about a tenth of the books to haul to my new place than I used to have.

And I donated all my old books to the public library, or sold them to used bookstores, so others could enjoy them. None were burned.


8/30/2012 3:20:38 PM

Karana

Goooodwwwiiiiiin.

8/30/2012 3:56:08 PM

Alencon

Paranoid much?

8/30/2012 4:05:22 PM

grad student

I just got a Kindle. I have vision issues that cannot be corrected. Kindle allows me to read more with less eye strain. Alan Kaufman better hope he never loses his sight in any way.

8/30/2012 4:17:31 PM

Jordab the Folf

I think that Kindles and the like are stupid too, but this is just silly. I don't see how making books more available to people is similar to making sure that books are never available to people.

8/30/2012 4:17:44 PM

Old Viking

Huh?

8/30/2012 4:22:57 PM

tracer

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU READ!!

8/30/2012 5:50:17 PM

nazani14

OK, so make swapping e-bools as easy as swapping mp3s.

8/30/2012 5:53:08 PM

Chris

You know, you're right! When they moved from VHS/Beta to DVD/Bluray they completely censored free thought and ideas.. Its not like the new formats offered better quality, extra features and took up less space... oh... wait.... o_O

8/30/2012 6:31:25 PM
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