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Science in and of itself DEFIES the theory of evolution. Here is simple proof. Remember the experiment done by Fransesco Redi in 1668 with the flies and rotting meat in jars? One was sealed, the other had a screen on top of it, and the last one was left open. The one that was sealed, obviously, had no flies. The one that had the screen on top had flies and maggots on the screen, and the one that was left open had flies and maggots all over the meat. That experiment proved the irrefutable fact that LIFE ONLY COMES FROM LIFE!

That being the case, how can an explosion over billions of years create life? An explosion would kill everything. Therefore, no life would exist to create life. Also, if the theory of evolution were true, wouldn't life find a way to adapt to the atmospheres on other planets? We have 9 planets in our solar system, 8 of which are uninhabited by ANY form of life. The Bible STATES that God created the universe. Evolution THEORIZES how the earth was created.

Steven Fast Jr., Comment on a Live Science article 40 Comments [10/1/2012 6:12:29 AM]
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Frostythesnowman

You don't actually have a clue about the theory of evolution do you? It has nothing whatsoever to do with the formation of the planet.

10/1/2012 6:26:04 AM

Dr. Razark

"The Bible STATES that God created the universe. Evolution THEORIZES how the earth was created."

A. You do not know what "theory" means.
B. Evolution only states what happens once life exists.
C. Evolution makes no statement on the origins of life.
D. Evolution makes no statement on the origins of Earth, the universe, or anything beyond the origin of species.
E. Evolution has evidence. The bible has none.

10/1/2012 6:26:38 AM

Horsefeathers

"That experiment proved the irrefutable fact that LIFE ONLY COMES FROM LIFE!"

Redi's experiment disproved spontaneous generation of complex life forms, which was the generally accepted method of the time for how life arose. Nothing more.

"That being the case, how can an explosion over billions of years create life? An explosion would kill everything."

It wasn't an explosion and it didn't happen over billions of years.

"Also, if the theory of evolution were true, wouldn't life find a way to adapt to the atmospheres on other planets?"

Almost certainly, assuming that the necessary chemical components existed on the planet in sufficient quantity to begin with and sufficient time was allowed for those chemicals to combine into self-replicating molecules and then sufficient time was allowed for those molecules to then evolve further into more complex life.

"We have 9 planets in our solar system, 8 of which are uninhabited by ANY form of life."

Are you quite sure of that? And let's not forget that there are several moons that could potentially have life, also.

"The Bible STATES that God created the universe."

The Wholly Babble is wrong. Again.

"Evolution THEORIZES how the earth was created."

The word "theory" doesn't mean what you apparently think it does. Evolution also says nothing of how the Earth was created as it's a theory in biology.

10/1/2012 6:33:40 AM

CleverScreenName

Wait... Does this idiot think the flies grew spontaneously out of the meat?

10/1/2012 6:36:55 AM

Oh My Dog!

abiogenesis =/= evolution.
Big Bang =/= evolution.
The Big Bang was not a literal explosion.
Evolution says nothing about how Earth came to be.

Maybe you should read a science book, a real one this time and not the Bible.

10/1/2012 6:46:25 AM

D Laurier

Evolution does not theorize how the earth was created.
Evolution is an observed biological process.

10/1/2012 6:51:33 AM

dionysus

1) Theory of Evolution =/= abiogenesis
2) Abiogenesis =/= spontaneous generation

That being the case, how can an explosion over billions of years create life? An explosion would kill everything.

How would it "kill everything" if nothing is alive before the Big Bang? Clearly you don't think before you talk. That makes you a good little creationist.

Also, if the theory of evolution were true, wouldn't life find a way to adapt to the atmospheres on other planets?

If God exists can't he create life on other planets? As for abiogenesis and evolution, they kind of require a habitable planet for life to take hold on in the first place. You can't get have the correct chemical reactions if you don't have the correct chemicals.

Evolution THEORIZES how the earth was created.

No, that's Nebula Theory. God, how do you garble science THAT badly? I knew the difference between the Theory of Evolution, Nebula Theory, and Abiogenesis since 5th grade and American public schools SUCK at teaching evolution.

10/1/2012 6:59:52 AM

The Crimson Ghost

$50 says this guy was homeschooled.

10/1/2012 7:04:50 AM

motobreath

I cant even bring myself to describe, let alone make a counter argument to the stupidity anymore. There minds are sealed tighter than a nuns vagina, they are also equally revolting.

10/1/2012 7:09:16 AM

John

LIFE ONLY COMES FROM LIFE!

The ToE is only concerned with life coming from life. Darwin never addressed the question of where the first life came from (abiogenesis). Creationists keep trying to turn the argument over evolution into an argument about the existence of God. They reason

> we can't explain abiogenesis; therefore God must have done it.
> If God did it, He must exist; therefore the ToE is false.

The first is a fallacy called the "argument from ignorance" - you're not automatically right just because someone can't answer your questions. The second is a non-sequitur - just because God did something billions of years ago doesn't prove He continued to exist or do anything afterwards; and just because God exists, that doesn't prove the ToE is wrong; it just proves a literal reading of Genesis is wrong.

10/1/2012 7:32:26 AM

Mayhem

There are exactly four words in this post that Steven Fast Jr actually understands, and none of them are longer than three letters.

10/1/2012 7:38:24 AM

Scorpius

No. Just, No.

10/1/2012 7:51:22 AM

pete

The Big Bang was not an explosion. It is entirely possible that life exists on some of the other planets and/or their moons but we haven't discovered it yet. Since said life would be governed by slightly different rules we aren't really even sure what to look for. Pluto is no longer even a planet so I am forced to conclude that this freak's sources are, at best, out of date. This conclusion is strengthened by the fact that this freak doesn't even know what the theory of evolution is.

10/1/2012 8:30:35 AM

Gawd

Well, I was going to say that abiogenesis and evolution are unrelated, but y'all are already on it

10/1/2012 8:34:55 AM

UHM

That is one of the biggest piles of bullshit I have ever seen.

"That experiment proved the irrefutable fact that LIFE ONLY COMES FROM LIFE!" That's not what evolution is about.

"An explosion would kill everything. Therefore, no life would exist to create life." The Big Bang put time and space into existence, there was nothing that could be hit by a shockwave - nor was there life from the moment of the Big Bang - nor light btw. Also: Holy-Fuck-Headdesk.

"Also, if the theory of evolution were true, wouldn't life find a way to adapt to the atmospheres on other planets? We have 9 planets in our solar system, 8 of which are uninhabited by ANY form of life." No, just, no. We have only been on one and are only searching for life that is similiar to us. Mercury is a fucking firy hell. Venus atmosphere is so think we can see through. Earth, well, we're on it. Mars probably had life but lost it's atmosphere and became too cold. Jupiter, Saturn, Neptun and Uranus are gas giants, the are too heavy to sustain life apart from that they don't have a surface. Pluto is covered by miles of ice of differen elements - also technically Pluto is only a dwarf planet. Now go run and look up what a moon is, how about Europa (Jupiter) and Titan (Saturn).

"Evolution THEORIZES how the earth was created." No it doesn't - that's not even the same branch of science!


And just for your information, I don't hold a degree in any branch science. I have never taken a science course at a university, and even I can refute your bullshit.

10/1/2012 8:45:25 AM



NO, NO, No, ok, true, Also true, True in a limited sense. Maggots and flies do not just poof into existance. Oh, that blows genesis doesnt it ? too bad.

what explosion?, maybe, false start, and who starts a sentance with Therefore ? , ditto Also, maybe it has, we just dont know what might be living on other planets, facts not in evidence, Yes the bible makes an assertion that the entity known as God did that, or maybe the entity or thing called the WORD did it. Evolution as a scientific theory does no such thing.

Please read a book.


10/1/2012 8:48:47 AM

Mister Spak

Here's something a little more recent than 1668.

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/conover_04

Also biogenesis is not evolution. Cosmology isn't either.

10/1/2012 9:23:52 AM

John_in_Oz

Per Wikipedia:
In May 2010, a team of scientists led by Venter became the first to successfully create what was described as "synthetic life".[35][36] This was done by synthesizing a very long DNA molecule containing an entire bacterium genome, and introducing this into another cell, analogous to the accomplishment of Eckard Wimmer's group, who synthesized and ligated an RNA virus genome and "booted" it in cell lysate.[37] The single-celled organism contains four "watermarks"[38] written into its DNA to identify it as synthetic and to help trace its descendants. The watermarks include

Code table for entire alphabet with punctuations
Names of 46 contributing scientists
Three quotations
The web address for the cell.[39]

So life comes from life, or else from ordinary chemicals manipulated by scientists, replicating what nature can do. No magic poofing into life required.

10/1/2012 10:38:16 AM

CG

I didn't know that STATING something makes it true.

10/1/2012 11:38:07 AM

Filin De Blanc

If life only comes from life how did God make dirt into Adam?

10/1/2012 11:45:56 AM

Swede

Ho hum, here we go again; evolution is about adaptation of existing life-forms to a changing environment, through random mutation and natural selection. How that life was created, or how the Earth was created is NOT part of Evolution. The Big Bang is not an explosion, it's an expansion, and only explain why everything in the Universe is moving away from everything else at a fairly constant speed.

The Bible doesn't even mention the other planets, how come God did not put life on any of those? Perhaps because the semi-nomadic sheep-herders, who wrote the Bible, didn't know about those planets. The other planets are either too hot, too cold or too gaseous to support life in any form we know. God, being omnipotent, ought to be able to put life there anyway. Science, which has to follow the laws of logic and reason, can not.

10/1/2012 11:58:17 AM

farpadokly

That doesn't "defy" the theory of evolution, it just brings up more questions about abiogenesis. Why is it that these people can never seem to distinguish between these two separate things?
I've got no sympathy for their ignorance, none at all, because they all have internet access and a simple Google search would dispel all their crass misunderstandings of the Big Bang and evolution. It's because they just simply don't want to know facts.

10/1/2012 12:32:15 PM

DarkfireTaimatsu

LIFE ONLY COMES FROM LIFE!

Aren't you guys the ones who believe people were made out of dust and ribs?

10/1/2012 1:10:58 PM

Old Viking

And what about the tides? Nobody can explain that. The tides come in, the tides go out. How does that happen?

10/1/2012 1:11:52 PM

Osiris

For the love of shit evolution is not spontaneous generation!

10/1/2012 2:43:48 PM
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