Quote# 89288

Ask a nurse about watching an unbeliever die, there are some horrific accounts of famous atheists screaming about the fire and burning, during the last hours of their lives. I don't believe this is a desirable way to die, even if there was no afterlife as you suppose. Doing the right thing and looking out for your neighbour is a lifestyle most people adapt anyway, so why is it such a stretch to worship God as Creator?

leigh, Amazon Christianity Forum 70 Comments [9/1/2012 6:44:01 PM]
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If you're going to lie for Jesus, can you at least not make it quite so obvious?

9/1/2012 6:46:00 PM


why is it such a stretch to worship God as Creator?

Because there's no reason to do so? You have yet to produce any proof of your god.

And I suspect that your story about the deaths of "famous atheists" is a load of horseshit.

9/1/2012 6:56:25 PM

Percy Q. Shunn

I just asked a nurse about watching a nonbeliever die. Her response: "It's no different from a believer. You just die."

When I pressed her for details about burning and fire, she said, "Nope, never seen that in 35 years of ER/Trauma work."

9/1/2012 7:06:06 PM


I always thought lying was a sin, but Christians seem to relish it.

9/1/2012 7:29:29 PM

You believe everything you're told don't you.

9/1/2012 7:32:37 PM


yeaaaaaaahhhhh..if this wsa true, which it isn't...doesn't this just mean that god is a total and complete megomanical asshole? I mean sending someone to hell all because they didn't kiss ass...evil god.

9/1/2012 7:44:16 PM

I just had to laugh at this quote 89288.

Thanks for sharing.

9/1/2012 8:00:02 PM

Philbert McAdamia

Did I miss a couple paragraphs between the burning and dying part and the leap to the doing the right thing bidness? Or is there a connection?

9/1/2012 8:11:55 PM


"Doing the right thing and looking out for your neighbour is a lifestyle most people adapt anyway,..."

- Unless they have convinced themselves that they are guaranteed eternal paradise for having said the magic words to god, regardless of what they do to anyone.

9/1/2012 8:48:04 PM


citation nee... oh forget it you lying, fallacy typing, dumbass

9/1/2012 8:54:46 PM

Oh My Dog!

The only thing on fire would be your pants.

9/1/2012 9:36:14 PM


Why is it such a stretch to worship Allah as your Creator?

9/1/2012 9:36:30 PM


You know what, I *WILL* ask a nurse. I have a feeling that the only thing burning will be your pants.

9/1/2012 10:59:49 PM


Care to offer some citations for these "horrific accounts?"

I thought not.

9/1/2012 11:24:52 PM


I thought that bearing false witness was something thou shalt not do. In my 30 years as a nurse, absolutely nobody at all screamed about fire before dying. Who are these famous atheists who did so?

As for being nice and looking out for people, your genocidal God and his hateful flock are hardly shining examples.

9/2/2012 12:33:54 AM

Feral Dog

My mom used to be a nurse, before arthritis took that from her. She's also a believer. I'll go ask her.

She says:
The only people screaming about fire and burning were people on certain drugs, or people in the burn unit who hadn't been knocked out with painkillers yet. But gangrene has to be the worst way to go. Want to hear again about the lady who died after her labial piercing got MRSA in it? See, she was embarrassed so she didn't go to the doctor when it started to smell...

(that's when I was like, NOOO and left- I'd heard that one a few times already. Good god, you would not believe the gallows humor nurses have).

9/2/2012 12:50:18 AM


Pascal's Wager, how original... Which god or goddess are we to worship, or should we worship all of them, just in case?

As about 50-85 percent of the Swedes are non-religious, there ought to be lots and lots of screamings in terminal care wards here, but I have never heard of any case like that. Many people die in real, Earth-bound pain and fever, maybe that's what you are confusing with afterlife fire and burnings.

9/2/2012 12:57:10 AM


Why do they have to lie so much? If they honestly believed themselves, in a God, there would be no reason to lie. The fact is that there are deeply insecure in their belief, hence the constant lying. To base your life around what they deep down know to be a falsehood is the ultimate in stupidity.

9/2/2012 1:09:59 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Let's ask another nurse, my wife.


Nope, she never heard of such a thing. (As usual there was a certain amount of TMI concerning gruesomeness, which I will spare you).

9/2/2012 1:18:17 AM


I have an aunt who's a nurse.

In more than thirty years of nursing, she saw nothing of what you describe.

The majority of people she encountered who were dying and survived at least long enough to communicate with someone else either saw nothing (that they remembered), or if they had an NDE, it was either relatively positive or at least cathartic in some way (to be sure, she didn't ask many--it wasn't something that came up unless the patient volunteered information). The few who said that they experienced something unpleasant reported that what they saw seemed to have something to do with how they treated the other people around them, and how they felt about the lives they lived and the sort of people they were, and in this cases it was STILL positive, because it gave them some insight into the kind of people they were. And this cut across boundaries of faith and creed--nonbelievers, Catholics, Muslims, Shinto, all experienced it in broadly the same way.

If there's an afterlife, it seems dependent on whatever you take to it. It doesn't appear to be bad.

9/2/2012 2:25:29 AM


Hey, leigh, don't forget that 'bear false witness' stuff.

9/2/2012 2:43:08 AM


Just plain lies.

9/2/2012 3:36:30 AM


Pure bullshit.

9/2/2012 3:50:48 AM


Ask a nurse?

No. YOU provide the evidence for your assertions.

This is the sort of thing that Christians of a certain ilk like to bandy around, to convince themselves that they are on the winning side. But where is the evidence?

9/2/2012 4:11:07 AM


[Citation needed]

Fuck, you. Asshole. I don't need to worry about fire and brimstone. I don't believe it.

9/2/2012 5:49:31 AM

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