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#1442181
...This is so stupid, I don't know where to begin
9/2/2012 5:47:23 AM
#1442196
Indicible
Word salad, with some dressing...
"Progressive Dogma states that: EVERYONE IS ABSOLUTELY EQUAL! "
Not quite. Everybody has equal rights. Which does not equate absolute equality.
And it dates back to 1789. Pretty old for something deemed progressive.
"Blacks and Amerinds KNEW about the wheel, the basic machines and large scale agriculture, but the chose not to use them because they were in tune with Gaia.... "
Which Amerindians? Because Middle- and South-America civilizations did not know or use the wheel. As for being in tune with Gaia, you are using a modern reference to explain an ancient phenomenon.
So, everybody is guilty except those that fight civil wars. So much for responsibility.
9/2/2012 6:28:45 AM
#1442209
SpukiKitty@Indicible
"Which Amerindians? Because Middle- and South-America civilizations did not know or use the wheel. As for being in tune with Gaia, you are using a modern reference to explain an ancient phenomenon."
On top of that, those wheel-less Amerindians managed THIS bit of pure awesomesauce!
THAT SHOULD BLOW THAT OP'S TINY MIND!
9/2/2012 6:47:18 AM
#1442243
Reynardine
He can't stop farking. Somebody better get him to a doctor, quick.
9/2/2012 7:28:02 AM
#1442259
\m/>_<\m/
and this is why education is a good thing, folks!
9/2/2012 7:48:44 AM
#1442272
Oh My Dog!
Progressives state that everyone is equal before the law.
As for the rest, that's quite an impressive straw man army you have there.
And finally guilt via the "butterfly effect"? If you say so.
9/2/2012 8:11:29 AM
#1442299
Percy Q. Shunn
9/2/2012 9:06:07 AM
#1442323
JeanP
"East Asians can't be better at math than Western Europeans,"
It's just that, in East Asia, maths are favorised.
"Jews can't be creative thinkers by heredity"
It's just that, because they couldn't be farmers because they were thought as "christ-killers", they ended as craftsmen and thus urbanites; thus they were more likely to go to college.
"Western Europeans can't have a genetic predisposition toward technical generalism (Being able to take a variety of disparate facts and re-assemble them in a new fashion.)"
It wasn't genetic predisposition but simply, if Jared Doamond is right, the result of interstate concurence which encouraged innovation : look at German and Italian art or firearms in the pre-Tokugawa Japan!
"Blacks and Amerinds KNEW about the wheel, the basic machines and large scale agriculture, but the chose not to use them because they were in tune with Gaia...."
It's just that, in Mesoamerica and Africa, they were no pack animals and thus didn't need wheel.
As for large scale agriculture, Aztecs had chinampas, Incans had terrases and Mayans had slash and burn.
And not having wheel hasn't prevented cities suchs as Palenque, Tenochtitlan and Monomatopa from
being built.
"That's why it's Europe's fault that Africans are raping babies to stop AIDS, and that dozens of charities with millions of dollars and euros are required to provide clean wells for dictators that are banking billions in Switzerland."
For the first part, it's simply stupid superstitions born of the lack of education; the second part isn't about racial factors but about graft and corruption.
Thus you could:
1)Keep spreading your speech on Moonbattery, Stormfront and Metapedia.
2)Learn real history and biology.
9/2/2012 9:31:12 AM
#1442405
Vox
"Progressive Dogma states that: EVERYONE IS ABSOLUTELY EQUAL!"
It states that everyone is equal. Not that everyone is "absolutely equal" (as in all having the same skills and talents). Some people have a talent in one or more areas while others are talented in one or more other areas.
Because a person has a talent for something doesn't mean they're a superior person all-around.
"There is no such thing as a Bell Curve. All differences are cultural and equally valid."
Every group has an IQ Bell Curve. The bell curve for white Americans has most white Americans' IQ in the 85-115 range with 100 being the median. The bell curve for black Americans has most black Americans' IQ in the 78-105 range with 90-93 (depending on what IQ test is being used) being the median. These bell curves change over time and there is quite a bit of intra-racial variation in these bell curves. MOST of the variation and the biggest differences is intra-racial. White people in Chechnya have IQ averages in the 80s while white people in Scandinavia have averages in 105 range. African-Americans have an average in the low-to-mid 90s range currently while black people in the poorest parts of Africa have a range in the 70s usually.
9/2/2012 11:12:57 AM
#1442407
VoxSo far there is no strong evidence that most of the difference is genetically-caused. There is actually no direct evidence it's genetic at all (to date we've found no intelligence genes), only indirect evidence hinting it may be partly genetic. No matter how much of it is genetic (even if it were 90% genetic), genetic does not mean "set in stone" and genetic doesn't mean continental groups would share IQ ranges in common. Genes vary on a regional basis, not a continental one. Most of the variation would still be "intra-racial".
http://www.nyu.edu/gsas/dept/philo/faculty/block/papers/Heritability.html
http://legacy.earlham.edu/~jacksmi/content/race_and_intelligence.html
I'm convinced part of the problem of "hereditarians" and "race realists" is they don't really understand what "heritable" means and don't understand the concept of genetics and genetic biodiversity.
"East Asians can't be better at math than Western Europeans"
Not that they can't, most progressives and lefties don't believe this is GENETIC. 100 years ago East Asian countries had scores behind most of Western Europe. Did their genes change since then?
"Jews can't be creative thinkers by heredity"
Do they share a "creative gene(s)"?
"Western Europeans can't have a genetic predisposition toward technical generalism (Being able to take a variety of disparate facts and re-assemble them in a new fashion.)"
WTF @ your definition of "technical generalism". Are you saying Western Europeans are the masters of twisting facts and reality? That's not a good thing....
9/2/2012 11:20:39 AM
#1442409
Vox
"Blacks and Amerinds KNEW about the wheel, the basic machines and large scale agriculture, but the chose not to use them"
Black people in areas like Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Niger and Mali knew about the wheel. Black people in places further south and central didn't. Amerindians knew about the wheel but lacked the plow. Europeans in the Mediterranean knew about advanced medicine but Europeans further north and east did not. People in South Asia knew about hot blast blast furnace technology, people in East Asia didn't and tended to rely on "cold blast" blast furnace technology. People in southeastern Africa (like Tanzania and Mozambique) created blast furnaces that burned at temperatures over 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit and created carbon steel almost 2,000 years before Europeans did.
Because a civilization lacks 1 piece of technology that is widespread elsewhere does not mean they lacked EVERYTHING ELSE.
Also, since when did Africa and Mesoamerica lack basic machines? How do you think people in Sudan and Egypt created those pyramids and massive steles? How do you think they created irrigation canals and moved massive ceilings onto large buildings or created water heating and water wheels indoors?
"That's why it's Europe's fault that Africans are raping babies to stop AIDS"
I didn't know all Africans were South Africans. Lol And who says this is Europe's fault? What is Europe's fault is creating ethnic tension and carving up land and countries without regard to ethnic, religious, etc. boundaries and stealing the arable, resource-rich land and even after the end of colonialism installing dictators (like Mobutu Sese-Seko) to continue to protect their monopolization and strike down African leaders who try to help the people. Look up things like "De Beers" in Africa.
9/2/2012 11:25:24 AM
#1442410
Vox
"and that dozens of charities with millions of dollars and euros are required to provide clean wells for dictators"
Not even mentioning some of the West's money comes from resources and debt they've bilked out of developing countries through institutions like the World Bank and the IMF. Or the fact that some of this charity is needed to begin with because developing countries can't compete in selling exports such as agriculture against Western agribusiness that is bolstered by billions of dollars of subsidies and welfare from wealthy Western govts.
"Keep this in mind:
"The gun's Chinese, paid for by Russian rubles. The steel probably came from a West German factory built by French francs""
Is this guy aware the Cold War has ended?
9/2/2012 11:26:20 AM
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9/2/2012 11:40:36 AM
#1442650
@Vox *applauds*
9/3/2012 4:36:58 AM
#1442688
SpukiKitty@Vox
...TIMES INFINITY!!!!
Oh, and you get....
...COOKIES, too!
9/3/2012 7:10:24 AM
#1442841
Ebon
Where to even start?
9/3/2012 12:46:21 PM
#1442950
Pacal
"Progressive Dogma states that: EVERYONE IS ABSOLUTELY EQUAL!
There is no such thing as a Bell Curve. All differences are cultural and equally valid."
This is called a strawman and like all strawmen it is fit only for burning.
"East Asians can't be better at math than Western Europeans,
Jews can't be creative thinkers by heredity,
Western Europeans can't have a genetic predisposition toward technical generalism (Being able to take a variety of disparate facts and re-assemble them in a new fashion.),"
Unfamilar with psychology and some of the basic facts of technical history I see. I note that the Chinese have a pretty well established history of technical invention.
"Blacks and Amerinds KNEW about the wheel, the basic machines and large scale agriculture, but the chose not to use them because they were in tune with Gaia...."
Actually the Indians of Mesoamerica did know beforre Columbus of the wheel which they used for children's toys. For various reasons they choose not to use it foe large scale transport. Lack of draft animals probably played a role here.
What do you mean by "basic machines"? It is prettty clear that Amerinds knew about the basic pulley, and lever / fulcrum.
As for large scale Agriculture. THe guy is ignorant as hell. What about the massive Aztec "floating gardens" system, or how about the massive agricultural projects of the Incas?
AS for Black Africans. Well lets see what about Ghana, Mali and the Songhai empires, with their massive agricultural projects, extensive networks of mines and yes they used the wheel. Ditto for Ethiopia along with those extraordinary rock cut churches.
The ignorance is amazing.
9/3/2012 5:17:44 PM
#1442953
Skatepunk
One, those are all stereotypes.
Two, most of those things are self-fulfilling prophecies. Asians tend to be better at math and other subjects because Asian culture strongly encourages a well-educated society, while Americans are falling behind not just Asia, but Europe.
9/3/2012 5:25:20 PM
#1443238
Raised by Horses
"The mere mention of this labels you a Right Wing Racist, and a Neo Nazi."
I can't imagine why.
9/4/2012 7:46:33 AM
#1443434
SpukiKitty
@Vox
"Keep this in mind:
"The gun's Chinese, paid for by Russian rubles. The steel probably came from a West German factory built by French francs""
Is this guy aware the Cold War has ended?
Vox, these kind of Far-Right goofuses think "Masters Of The Universe" is still current.
9/4/2012 4:03:20 PM
#1444043
Vox@#1442650 & SpukiKitty -
Thank you and thanks for the cookies!
*munches the apple cinnamon*
9/5/2012 9:42:35 PM
#1444176
SpukiKitty
[b]@Vox[b/]
You're welcome! Cookies make the world go 'round!
9/6/2012 5:46:10 AM
#1446104
practical god
What? No love (hate?) for eastern europeans?
9/11/2012 7:20:19 AM
#1532270
...Any one gut that sombrero cactus for this word salad?
4/27/2013 2:32:58 PM
#1541109
I'm surprised this didn't start with a "I'm not racist, but..." statement.
5/17/2013 7:07:30 PM
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