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I can’t believe anyone would be that stupid not to see the link between atheism and genocide. Yes religion is accountable for horrible things. No denying that. But think about it? atheism is on the rise, only 100 years old and has accounted for millions if not perhaps a billion Deaths. Good luck on the next century, morons. You really think its going to get better? If anything its just going to get worse because at the very least there are some people who profess to be christian and at least pretend to follow the bible and its commandments. When that is gone, no amount of “Real world morals are not influenced by the bible” insanity will save you from the cold hard truth. Ya maybe 1 out of thousands believes in treating everyone as equals on their own without the bible. But all I can remember at school is how much everyone hated hom*****uals, how racist everyone was, and how *****ist everyone was. And I can think of about 1 person who actualy believed the bible and he basicaly just said he didn’t like homo*****uals. So take you’re balonie about atheism being less corrupt and burry it. HUMANS ARE THE PROBLEM NOT RELIGION…. and atheism just adds to that fact, denying god from people who may otherwise have been at least a little less crazy because of it. All its going to do is replace the total nutcases who promote hatred based off religion into nutcases who promote hatred because they are superior in everyway. Not in anyway a positive trade off, it might even be worse. Stop flaunting how superior and more educated you are, you’re just humans, and you’re going to spill blood, accept it, and fight the real issue.

forty, less one, Listverse 33 Comments [10/1/2012 6:36:11 AM]
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CernunnosIsAnIrishDeathMetalBand

He censored the 3 letter word that's like sax but with 'e' instead of 'a' - Which is only a bad word in a fundynut world.

10/1/2012 6:47:07 AM

Titania

Seems to me that fundementalists already think they are superior in every way. Take their religion away or substitute it with something equally fantastical and they'd still think they are superior in every way.

10/1/2012 6:49:33 AM

D Laurier

Religion says "Go out and kill those strangers who dont look like us"
Atheism says... "Why?"

Religion says "Go out and force those strangers to believe what we believe".
Atheisn says... "Why?"

Religion says "Our god made the world especialy for us, and our god will give us a new one when we destroy this one".
Atheism says... "Hey wait a minute!"

10/1/2012 6:58:36 AM

The Crimson Ghost

I'm quite human; and quite superior to fundamentalist headcases like you.

It is reason & compassion that will save us; not religion. Certainly not yours.

10/1/2012 7:08:03 AM

dionysus

atheism is on the rise, only 100 years old and has accounted for millions if not perhaps a billion Deaths.

Atheists existed before the last century. Thomas Jefferson was an atheist, Buddha was an atheist, Democritus was an atheist, and Epicurus was an atheist. And yes, Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot killed millions of people. That's undeniable. But then again so did Hitler. And if the medieval era had a population of several billion and modern weapons there would be millions killed by the Catholic Church (and the Protestants who who fought against them) as well.

HUMANS ARE THE PROBLEM NOT RELIGION

I agree. Without religion we'd still kill each other over nationality, politics, etc. Just as Stalin and Mao did. But that kind of counteracts your argument that it was their atheism that caused them to kill people.

and atheism just adds to that fact, denying god from people who may otherwise have been at least a little less crazy because of it.

Religion can ALSO make people less stable and give them an excuse to behave badly. Or did you forget that you admitted that religion is accountable for horrible things? For example, a kid with diabetes being prayed for instead of being treated and that causing the death of the child. Or for bigger atrocities look no further than the Holocaust.

All its going to do is replace the total nutcases who promote hatred based off religion into nutcases who promote hatred because they are superior in everyway.

Right. As I mentioned, nationalism and politics are big ones.

Not in anyway a positive trade off, it might even be worse.

How would it be worse? People of every religion have raped and tortured others to death. I don't see how you could get any worse. If you had simply stuck to the point that getting rid of religion would make little difference and that people will always find reasons to kill each other then I would agree completely. But the fact that you are scapegoating atheists and, in fact, making yourself out to be superior shows that you are nothing but a fucking hypocrite and any point you might have is marred by your bigotry.

10/1/2012 7:28:19 AM

Dr.Shrinker

HUMANS ARE THE PROBLEM NOT RELIGION

And even a casual glance at history reveals that religion is not the solution, but rather a means of making the problem easier to tolerate for some. So why are you defending it?

10/1/2012 7:39:31 AM

pete

The so-called "atheists" that this freak is referencing were all megalomaniacs who Believed they had a divine right, regardless of name, to rule. Totalitarian states merely replace God with the "Dear Leader". In fact, I can't think of a single example of a state killing in the name of atheism.

10/1/2012 8:23:54 AM

OhJohnNo

"HUMANS ARE THE PROBLEM NOT RELIGION"

In this respect, he is absolutely right.

10/1/2012 8:39:54 AM

Canadia

Humans are not at all resigned to being as base as you believe. Further, it's not about 'believing' it's getting better; statistically speaking, crime and violence have been on a downward slope globally for years, along with religion.

I'm not going to definitively say that the increase in the number of atheists is the cause, but surely if what you say is true there would be more 'spilling of blood' as you'd put it?

On a personal note, my humanity and education notwithstanding; I will have nothing to do with aforementioned 'blood spilling'. Project your lack of civility onto someone else.

10/1/2012 8:49:31 AM

UHM

"only 100 years old" - Atheism is as old as life. Now kill your dog, after all he is an atheistic genocidal maniac.

"HUMANS ARE THE PROBLEM NOT RELIGION" And through education, ethics, sociality many atheist are trying to constantly better themselves - not like Christians who are "just perfect as you are".

"Stop flaunting how superior and more educated you are, you’re just humans, and you’re going to spill blood, accept it, and fight the real issue." Doing it already.

10/1/2012 9:00:10 AM

Mister Spak

"I can’t believe anyone would be that stupid not to see the link between atheism and genocide."

That's because you're too stupid to see the link between Nazi Germany and christianity.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance
with the will of the Almighty Creator:
by defending myself against the Jew,
I am fighting for the work of the Lord"
--Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

10/1/2012 9:20:59 AM

Pule Thamex

OK! Just because you're better at frothing rage than me doesn't make you a better person. Just because you're more confident in expressing your inner barbarian doesn't make you superior. Just because you have a standard bearer called Bible God who justifies your savagery and your sense of self entitlement doesn't make you better. Huh! You might be better than me at bigotry, sexism and racism, but that's because you've been schooled in them and had suitable parental encouragement. Huh! See if I care.

10/1/2012 9:44:02 AM



I'm trying to think of one instance where a bloody crusade was initiated to wipe out people that believe in God that wasn't the doing of people who believe in God.

Don't try to con me with Stalin, he was out to keep any body capable of rallying people against him as weak and terrified as possible. If the church was insignificant he would have ignored them.

10/1/2012 10:01:57 AM

fmitchell

Were atheism to become the norm, we'd only have to deal with individual crazy and destructive people, admittedly some with political power. With religion as the norm we ALSO have to deal with massive numbers of deluded people doing the exact same crazy and destructive things because their holy book or holy person told them to ... some of them with political power.

Oh, and SEX. SEX SEX SEX SEX SEX.

10/1/2012 10:11:19 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

"HUMANS ARE THE PROBLEM NOT RELIGION…"

Religion is a product of humans.

" and atheism just adds to that fact, denying god from people who may otherwise have been at least a little less crazy because of it."

In most cases I've seen, otherwise-reasonable people have been made more crazy by religion, not less.

10/1/2012 12:12:49 PM

farpadokly

My two cents: It's not human nature that's the issue, but specific social systems. The real problem is unquestioning obedience in a hierarchical structure. That is the really deadly thing, and it can take place more easily in a religious society than in a secular one. Simple as that.

10/1/2012 12:26:06 PM

Old Viking

"OK, thanks for taking our Position on Atheism Poll. I'm going to mark you down as Against.

10/1/2012 1:03:24 PM

Meeeh

Where was people killed by mobs chanting "Kill them in the name of Atheism!" again? I think I must have forgotten these events or maybe they never really happened?

10/1/2012 1:12:09 PM

ScrappyB

Atheism is a lot older than 100 years. There are records of atheist philosopers in ancient times. It's just that until relatively recently, discussing their doubting views tended to get people killed by the oh-so-tolerant religious society.

10/1/2012 2:18:20 PM

Ebon

You are wrong. And stupid.

10/1/2012 3:08:14 PM

Xotan

Solution:

NO SEX = NO HUMANS = NO RELIGION.


10/1/2012 3:15:31 PM

JSS

Atheism leads to genocide, yet it's humans that are the problem, not religious beliefs like Christianity or Atheism.

You're just all over the place with your messy ideas aren't you?

10/1/2012 3:29:31 PM

I am the one who knocks.

I'll take thousand island dressing with my word salad, waiter.

10/1/2012 5:18:50 PM

Doctor Doak

homosexuals.
homo*****uals.

...where did Forty, Less One get the extra characters from?

10/1/2012 5:21:46 PM

Berny

Religion and it's bastard half-brothers, nationalism and totalitarianism, are responsible for all of the deaths in the last century, not atheism. No one has ever been killed in the name of atheism.
I've lost track of how many people have been killed in the name of God or the Great Leader.

10/1/2012 5:49:42 PM
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