And the church mistakenly followed Aristotle when it came to the place of the earth in the cosmos. The earth need not be the center of the universe to be the center of Divine attention. But the Galaxy is likely the center of the universe. We know now that the entire universe rotates about an axis that is not only parallel to but coincident with the axis of rotation of the Galaxy, and in the same direction.
BTW: the name “Milky Way Galaxy” is redundant. “The Galaxy” is the correct name for the large, pinwheel-shaped collection of stars that includes our Sun.
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Earth is the center of the cosmos! Er, no.
The Sun is the center of the cosmos! No again.
The Galaxy is the center of the cosmos! Actually there's a bunch of other galaxies the same size as ours or larger, and as far as we can tell they're all moving away from each other at more or less equal speed while space expands.
I wonder what will revolve around us next.
Although the universe is extremely large, I think it's safe to say that it's not infinitely large. If it were, though, then, yes, any point on its surface would be the center of the universe.
Plus, that would explain why it's expanding so quickly: everything's trying to get away from people like Terry Hurlbut and the Creation Science Hall of Fame.
i'm no astrophysicist, but i'd say
a: that's wrong
b: worst name ever
c: dude... seriously
once again, please inform me of any factual inconsistencies, and apologies if any were found.
and that's how you write crap that WON'T make you look like an idiot
Creation "Science" has a Hall of Fame? Seriously??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....(chokes, recovers)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Further proof that religion is an exercise of hubris.
Pretty much all major religions involve the belief that humans are created in the image of a deity and that Earth is the center of the universe.
Little wonder they tend the attract the egocentric individuals.
You know, if you could publish a peer-reviewed* paper on this, I'm sure you'd win the Nobel Prize in Physics.
*This means reviewed by actual scientists, not people like Ken Ham, "Dr." Kent Hovind, "Dr." David Tee, and VenomFangX.
"We know now that the entire universe rotates about an axis that is not only parallel to but coincident with the axis of rotation of the Galaxy, and in the same direction."
How do you tell the difference between that and they are both standing still?
Even if the galaxy were at the exact center of the universe (how would we even verify that without being able to see the edges of the universe, which may not even exists if there's nothing outside the universe as a boundary is always between something and something else and if there's no "something else", there is no boundary) that proves nothing about God or the devil or souls or angels so what's your point exactly? If I wind up in the exact middle of the Sahara Desert does that make the Egyptian religion true? Because that's just as much of a non-sequitur as saying that our galaxy being right in the middle of the universe proves anything about the creationism.
I know very little of cosmology, being a linguist, but all I have read about the position of our galaxy mention something like "in the corner of" or "far away from the center of" the Universe. As we have yet to be contacted by any real aliens, we're probably not the center...
No it's not redundant because there are other galaxies out there. Billions of them in fact.
In fact here I see the fundie position in a hundred years: "Fine, fine there are other universes out there. But this universe is the center of the multi-verse."
We know now that the entire universe rotates about an axis that is not only parallel to but coincident with the axis of rotation of the Galaxy, and in the same direction.
???????
That's not even bullshit; bullshit at least has substance.
There is no centre of the universe. Every galaxy is moving away from each other at the same rate. In order to have a centre you'd have to have boundaries to be in the centre of. Those don't exist, so nothing is the centre. And axis? No, no. That has nothing to do with it. Everything is spread out in all directions. Space has no up or down. Got it?
Given that you're a creationist, it is likely that you have no idea what sun, star, galaxy, and universe mean. But, if you use all four words in sentences that are all fairly close to one another in a body of text, then the body of text will probably qualify for inclusion in the Creation Science Hall of Fame.
@John_in_Oz: there is--apparently, arguably--some evidence that the observable universe is actually rotating like a carousel, giving some galaxies in different observable hemispheres of the sky an observably different preferred direction of spin. The evidence may be a pure statistical fluke, or it may mean that we're only seeing a small portion of a far larger volume, most of which is forever outside of our light cone, and that overall, the universe is still homogenous on the largest scales. It is still being debated.
http://news.discovery.com/space/do-we-live-in-a-spinning-universe-110708.html
Young-Earth Creationists have tried to use this as evidence that Earth--or at least the solar system--is at the center of the universe. They're as wrong as they ever were, but I suppose that, ironically, it means that the YECs are evolving to try to use new arguments to sell ancient bullshit.
Huh, what did I just read?
Why is "Milky Way Galaxy" redundant? There are like 100 million galaxies only one of which is the Milky Way.
I'm confused. A 13.5 billion year old galaxy somehow 'knew' to orbit a galaxy that was formed at most 13.2 billion years ago (and really only formed its disc 9 billion years ago)? How can something orbit something else that didn't exist yet? Apart from that, orbit means going around an object in an elliptical orbit. NOT moving apart from (or sometimes towards) each other in different directions. And you people must seriously give up. We never were, nor will be the centre of the Universe.
And the odd thing is you accuse scientists of being anthropocentric. Projection much?
@SurfinSeaOtter nice photo, did you take it yourself ? ;)
Big G galaxy refers to our own, little g galaxy refers to something else. Like Sun and sun.
Makes communicating with Vogons even harder because they think Galaxy refers to theirs.
creation science ? hmmm , there has to be a better term. I wonder if they study Bumba the african vomit God ?
"We know now that the entire universe rotates about an axis that is not only parallel to but coincident with the axis of rotation of the Galaxy, and in the same direction."
We know no such things. Your Bible has plenty to say to you about lying. You should read those parts sometime... or have one of the smart people read them to you.
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That's a view of a tiny, tiny, TINY fraction of the sky.
EVERY SINGLE OBJECT in that photo -- every point of light, every spiral, every fuzzy blob -- is a separate galaxy.
@Karana
Andromeda is coming towards us, expected to connect in 6 billion years or so, hubble has imaged some galaxies that have collided.
It appears MOST galaxies are getting further apart but nothing appears absolutely even out there, certainly no evidence of the creationists "perfectly balanced forever universe".
Confused?
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