“America has been moving away from God,” said Alabama Sen. Hank Erwin, R-Montevallo. “The Lord is sending appeals to us. As harsh as it may sound, those hurricanes do say that God is real, and we have to realize sin has consequences.”
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This kind of arrogance is revolting. Hurricanes have been hitting that part of the land from the Atlantic and the Caribbean since before humans ever showed up. Any increases in intensity and power of them are a direct consequence of global climate change.
It has nothing to do with your god. Stop arguing that it does.
How do you explain the fact that really sinful godless places like, oh, most of Europe, NEVER get hurricanes?
Yet another American politician reveals himself to the world as a total moron who still believes in childish fairy tales.
Hurricanes do not prove god. Grow up, for fuck's sakes.
I guess God has no problem with Sweden moving away from him, then. We have had no hurricanes, or earthquakes, or tsunamis or volcanic eruptions.
So, the Republicans are further away from God, as he hit their convention and not the Democratic one?
Considering Deity's been sending the worst natural disasters to the Bible Belty Red-State Fundie lands, I'd agree with you, but not for the reasons you're getting at, Fundie goofus!
Why is it, then, that Katrina wiped out a lot of churches in New Orleans but left the "sinful" parts of town relatively untouched? Why was Isaac threatening the Republican convention?
If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that God was pissed at conservatism and we need to be more tolerant and caring like his son said in your holy book.
All I can picture is this American family hopping into their U-Haul, hitting the road, and saying, "We're going to a better neighborhood!"
So your god is a bully who throws hurricanes at people if they don't toe the party line?
Oddly, that's roughly what I think your god is like but I have enough self-respect not to call such a being "good".
Then move closer to god, change the Republic partys dogma, and you won't get those pesky hurricanes at your conventions. Maybe less tornados in trailer parks too.
Or maybe your problem is you're worshipping a false god. When America invaded Iraq their military was paralyzed by sandstorms more powerful than anyone had seen in 20 years.
As harsh as it may sound, those sandstorms do say Allah is real and you have to realize sin has consequences.”
"As harsh as it may sound, those hurricanes do say that God is real, and we have to realize sin has consequences."
I'm not sure I see the link between hurricanes and "sin". Why do hurricanes show the displeasure of your god but tornadoes that rip through parts of the Bible Belt are just natural disasters?
If Yahweh is all-powerful, why doesn't he find a way to send a message that is neither ambiguous nor destructive? Seriously, if this is what your god does he comes off as more of a peevish asshole than anyone who genuinely cares about the human race.
So, you worship a being that attempts to rule through intimidation and brute force? A being that, when he doesn't get his way, resorts to breaking his toys and throwing temper tantrums? A being that coerces you to comply with threats of torture? A being that holds everyone responsible for two people breaking a rule when they couldn't even understand why breaking the rule was wrong?
worthy of worship in the first place? Sounds more like a petty dictator. You shouldn't be following it. You should be calling for regime change in heaven.
"“America has been moving away from God,” said Alabama Sen. Hank Erwin, R-Montevallo. “The Lord is sending appeals to us. As harsh as it may sound, those hurricanes do say that God is real, and we have to realize sin has consequences.”
Point out anywhere in the Bible where it says 'United States of America' first. Then we'll talk.
“America has been moving away from Zeus,” said Alabama Sen. Hank Erwin, R-Montevallo. “The Lord is sending appeals to us. As harsh as it may sound, these lightning storms do say that Zeus is real, and we have to realize sin has consequences.”
Also, volcanoes are God's way of punishing those dirty Hawaiians for smoking dope and surfing all day.
I'm sorry, natural phenomena that happen regularly and with at least some predictability do not count as supernatural communication. When a hurricane springs up on top of San Fransisco without any prior sign of then, then I might consider some god at work. Until then, STFU.
Not the sin Erwin mentioned, for sure. "God so loved the world", so in any case it's probably for ruining our environment, if anything.
Using that logic I guess God was pissed at the idea of the Republican convention, and therefore the idea of right-wingers, and therefore the idea of evangelical nutjobs.
I'd say your idea was retarded, but the mentally retarded go through enough without having their intelligence insulted like that.
"As harsh as it may sound, those hurricanes do say that God is real, and we have to realize sin has consequences.”
Then please inform me of the sins present in Galveston TX. back in 1900. That was the deadlest natural diaster in the history of the US.
Hurricanes are weather phenomena. Does this Senator (How did he ever get elected - are his constituents mentally deficient?) believe that weather is an appeal from God? What new kind of revelation may we expect next?
Let the Senator look to his own sins and convince us that God is not angry with him. The rest can look after themselves. In other words let the Senator mind his business, legislation & governance.
1. Stop claiming to speak for God! If S/He is pissed off about anything, it's that!
So why is it that most of 'godless Europe' is a tranquil natural disaster free zone; far from fault lines, volcanoes, hurricane seasons and tornado alleys (except Italy, one of the most religious and home to the Vatican).
Surely Europe should be under the cosh all year. I think the biggest natural disaster ever in Britain killed under a thousand and was decades, if not centuries ago
EDIT: Actually a hurricane killed 15,000 in 1703, but that was 300 years ago when Britain was probably 99.9% Christian, and Puritan at that
Does this idiot ever listen to himself speak?
No senator, it doesn't sound harsh. It sounds utterly preposterous. I'd expect nothing less from a representative of Alabama.
hurricanes don't say god is real, they say "whooshy whooshy rain rain rain whoosh whoosh".
this guy's obviously never talked to a hurricane before.
What a fool believes, he sees. When tornadoes hit towns full of Bible-thumping Alabama Baptists, he'll probably explain it as "the Lord is testing our faith". Or he'll dig up some guy who hid under his table and felt the Lord say "you're gonna be alright" and when the guy's whole house is demolished but he survives, he'll say the Lord saved him. I'm not sure his homeowner's insurance company would agree.
Refer to the last sentence in your Bible, Senator. You're changing the central message of your religion and you will burn in Hell for it.
Christ already paid for the sins of humanity. He does not punish people with weather nor is any god political.
Of course it's all moot, but you can at least understand your OWN FUCKING RELIGION YOU FUCKSTICK!
So why did God devastate "America" with the Great Colonial Hurricane of 1635? Yeah, I know - if the native Americans had gotten down on their knees and called out to Jesus, they would have been saved - because we all know how well that works; just ask the folks in the cancer ward ...
You know what I find funny about this kind of theology; it's basically shamanism. God stops being a higher being we are all subject to and instead ends up being a force we can control with our actions. If we're good then God is nice, and if we are bad then God is mean.
Unfortunetly this increase in deadly hurricanes has nothing to do with God and everything to do with climate change. After all it was climate scientists who predicted we would be getting these kind of hurricanes thirty years ago.
How in the... How in the world does this prove God? That's like saying, "There is toast. Therefore, yetis are real." There's no correlation, even. Not at all.
@Osiris, that's what I've been thinking, too. I understood Christian doctrine held that the Bible was God's final communication to humanity. Which makes fundies like Hank into heretics.
Hank, sweetie, God's message through Hurricane Isaac is that he's pissed at the Republicans. If that offends you, well, talk to the chair.
Blah blah blah. Every time a hurricane hits Louisiana, which is well known for Mardi Gras and other sexy things, it's GAWD getting revenge on on a few titty flashers by wiping out thousands of innocent people. But should a tornado rip through the heartland and kill dozens of right-wing Christians, oh, it's just an annual weather phenomenon. Christ, you people are stupid.
Yeah, because it's easier to create a hurricane than rent a fucking billboard. Or maybe even, like, show up for real and say "Let's chat."
The Lord is sending appeals to us
Why doesn't he try bribes?
He could just say "pretty please" or "pretty please with sugar on top".
Better yet, why doesn't he pray to us?
He could start answering prayers, clothing the naked and feeding the hungry. People might take notice.
But what does stupid ol' God do? He helps score touchdowns and sends tornados. God really needs a good PR agent and some media instruction.
I really feel sorry for poor little God. All those appeals he sends us and nobody's listening. What a shame. What a waste. I hope God doesn't end up with an inferiority complex.
"America has been moving away from God..."
Surely, it is God who has been moving away from America. God had to drift out to sea so that He could blow His righteous wrath at the sinful parts of America. But don't worry, He'll be drifting back into position soon. And there He'll remain until it's "indignant outrage" time again. You'll know when, just keep an eye on the weather forecast.
So why are they always hitting the Bible Belt states and never New York, or Massachusetts, or California, or Nevada, or...
And that's a bad thing in what way, exactly?
http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/religious-belief-and-societal-health/
New Study Reveals that Religion Does Not Lead to a Healthier Society
"The received wisdom would lead one to predict a positive correlation between national religiosity and national moral health as one goes up the other goes up. In fact, that appears not to be the case, and the example of the United States is most striking; Americans are among the most religious people in the Western world, and yet we have among the highest rates of homicide, abortion, and teen pregnancies. To the extent that these measures are related to something that might be called “national moral health,” the intuitive thesis that links religiosity to morality would seem to be gainsaid."
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