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The Nicaraguan pastors shielding Isabella Miller from her lesbian mom say they will gladly go to prison or be put to death before surrendering the child to authorities.

The Brotherhood says that they forgive their persecutors, but will stand firm in the defense of Isabella, now 10 years old, who “has become an innocent victim of an ungodly agenda.” “Her wellbeing has not been given much or any consideration. According to the Bible we believe that God has given Lisa sole responsibility to care and protect her own daughter since she has no known father. According to the Bible it is a war between good and evil, a battle between God and Satan. As congregations we stand united in this spiritual warfare against evil.”

The Brotherhood add that they are willing to suffer imprisonment or death in the cause of protecting Isabella. “The fact is that suddenly we find ourselves having to choose between obeying God and man made laws,” they write. “We have chosen to obey God. We are willing to give up our rights, go to jail, or even die, for the cause of helping anyone become free from a sinful life and helping that person to live in obedience to God’s Word.”

The Brotherhood, Joe. My. God. 28 Comments [9/14/2012 3:28:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus
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Voice of Humanity

"Hmm, is that so? Then go ahead and die..."

- The Major, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex

9/14/2012 4:01:07 AM

whatever

"The Nicaraguan pastors shielding Isabella Miller from her lesbian mom say they will gladly go to prison or be put to death before surrendering the child to authorities."

Well, in most countries the authorities have very good, accurate snipers.

9/14/2012 4:02:07 AM

Leighton Buzzard

I think they should be taken at their word. Pass the ammunition.

9/14/2012 4:22:09 AM

Xotan

The brotherhood? Sounds like something in a Dan Brown novel - sinister.

I think someone needs to explain where the bible says that children should be separated from their parents.

I also think that a court should return the child to its mother, unless there is a valid reason (like ongoing drug addiction, cruelty, neglect etc) for not doing. Being gay is no reason whatsoever.

9/14/2012 5:05:58 AM

Doubting Thomas

See? This is why religion must be eradicated. People are using their crazy religious delusions to keep a child from her mother.

9/14/2012 5:18:28 AM

Filin De Blanc

"Persecutors"!? You kidnapped a child!

9/14/2012 5:24:42 AM

Mister Spak

You're giving pastors a child? This will not end well.

9/14/2012 5:37:53 AM

dionysus

Where in the Bible does it say that lesbians can't raise children? Quote the fucking verse.

Her wellbeing has not been given much or any consideration.

Well at least you're honest.

The Brotherhood add that they are willing to suffer imprisonment or death in the cause of protecting Isabella.

If only religious types had that kind of determination in the pursuit of science. We'd be living twice as long and have colonies on Mars. Instead they waste it on misguided bullshit.

9/14/2012 7:05:14 AM

Firewing

Prison should not even be an option for this filth. Only the most vile, cowardly vermin would kidnap children. Of course they wouldn't care about Isabella. They only think of her as a pawn in their evil scheme. This is yet more proof that religion is a noxious influence, and how its followers don't care how many lives they destroy. That said, let's see if they maintain their bravado in the face of their deserved punishment.

9/14/2012 7:39:28 AM

Anon-e-moose

After reading the quote, all I can say is this:

Daniel Ortega, do your duty.

9/14/2012 7:42:25 AM

UHM

You believe a 10 year old girl can raise a freakin' child?

9/14/2012 7:48:31 AM

Frelus

The 10 year old is the daughter.
Think, please!

9/14/2012 8:00:48 AM

Oh My Dog!

This is just evil.

9/14/2012 8:25:35 AM

fmitchell

@Xotan

Isabella Miller is with one of her mothers, a self-proclaimed "ex-gay" and Christian. Both parents were in the middle of a custody trial when Lisa A. Miller (one mother) absconded with her daughter to Nicaragua. Here's the full story.

9/14/2012 8:41:08 AM

Hypersapien

"We are willing to give up our rights, go to jail, or even die, for the cause of forcing other people to live by our interpretation of religious doctrine."

9/14/2012 8:47:49 AM

John

So if the Nicaraguan pastors were kidnapped by a bunch of Muslims and they said "we are willing to give up our rights, go to jail, or even die, for the cause of helping anyone become free from a sinful life and helping that person to live in obedience to Allah’s Word", they'd be OK with that?

9/14/2012 9:03:37 AM

freako104

You are the persecutors. Not persecuted. And in this battle of good versus evil, you are the ones on the side of evil. You are hateful bigots who tear apart families.

9/14/2012 9:44:18 AM

ChakatBlackstar

I remember reading this story when it first broke, when the kid was first kidnapped by her other mother. I didn't expect that it would take this long before I heard more about it. I hope they catch the bitch and prosecute her to the fullest extent of the law. And above all else I hope the kid is brought home safe.

9/14/2012 10:16:55 AM

JeanP

"The Brotherhood says that they forgive their persecutors"

Send your excuses to Isabella, scumbags.

“The fact is that suddenly we find ourselves having to choose between obeying God and man made laws”

Do you speak about laws forbiding peoples from being complicits to a kidnapping of a child from her mother?

9/14/2012 10:48:20 AM

Meeeh

The Brotherhood add that they are willing to suffer imprisonment or death

Good! Let them!

9/14/2012 11:52:02 AM



Willing to die huh? Oh well, one less piece of shit.

9/14/2012 12:23:09 PM



Actually, after looking into the whole story, it's possible that "The Brotherhood" may not be the main villains. (Misguided fanatics, yes, but not as evil as it looks.)

Basically, the narrative went like this:
- Two women met and fell in love and decided to get married and start a family.
- They had a baby girl (Isabella Miller) via in vitro fertilization
- The relationship soured and they separated, the judge awarded custody to the birth parent (Lisa Miller). Isabella's other parent had to pay child support but had visitation rights.
- The birth parent started interfering with the visitation rights and in the end abducted the girl altogether and fled the country to Nicaragua when the judge threatened to transfer custody.
- The birth parent took shelter with The Brotherhood claiming to be an "ex-gay" mother trying to protect the child from her lesbian parent.
- The Brotherhood claim that "they will gladly go to prison or be put to death before surrendering the child to authorities"

From my perspective, The Brotherhood are simply a bunch of misguided bigots who are being exploited by Isabella's birth parent to hurt her former partner.

Lisa Miller may be a fundie, given that she abducted Isabella on religious grounds or she could simply be a manipulative shrew lying about her new-found 'faith' to get some gullible priests on her side.

9/14/2012 12:49:02 PM

Indicible

Somebody forgot to read the part about giving god and Cesar their respective dues. Damned be those idiots who can't even read their sacred texts.

9/14/2012 12:53:49 PM

Old Viking

The Bible isn't horrific enough as it is; fundies have to attribute additional vile shit to it.

9/14/2012 1:54:08 PM

cdcdrr

Man, your brotherhood sucks.

9/15/2012 4:44:39 AM
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