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The thing is Dr. McGrath is telling people to NOT use the very thing element God said to use. God said, faith pleases Him; The JUST shall live by FAITH; and then we have all those people held up as examples for using FAITH in Hebrews 11.
Now as to the distorted idea behind those charts we can see that a person who drew them up prefers secular science over the way God wants science to be used. Their bias is clearly seen in their demonstration of their ignorance of what Faith is.
Faith doesn't exclude new information, it excludes the lies told by secularists and those who pursue alternatives to the Bible. That is why God said to get wisdom and understanding so that one can use discernment correctly when confronted with ideas that contradict the Bible and see when the blind are trying to over-rule those who have clear sight.
Genesis is true book containing true answers science doesn't promote itself in that manner. There in lies one of the problems with using secular science--it doesn't have the answers for the world and is completely useless.
Another problem with that variety of science is that it is redundant and wastes valuable resources. We already know how everything came to be but since unbelievers reject God's word, they have to come up with something to fill the void in their lives. Thus they waste billions chasing an unprovable and unverifiable idea.
People are suffering because of this fruitless pursuit of knowledge we already have and that helps make their version of science wrong.
It is also wrong because it is not the truth and it has no hope of becoming the truth.
Now we come back to the question Dr. McGrath and others refuse to answer: Where in the Bible or even history does God grant permission to take secular or other versions of science over His word? and a new one: Where does God say blessed are they who use science over faith?
Science used correctly and within the rules of God is helpful to the world, sadly, too many people get lured away by the lies of the secular world and science is abused and mis-used for the secular agenda--turning people away from the truth.

Dr. David Tee, Exploring Our Matrix 50 Comments [9/19/2012 3:34:02 AM]
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Oh My Dog!

Oh, it's Mr. Tee again.

here...


9/19/2012 3:55:15 AM

Pule Thamex

Quite right. This proves you are a very intelligent doctor, as if anyone needed convincing. This also proves that Bible God does not exist, because if He did exist, then we wouldn't need to have faith which is pleasant for nonexistent gods. And we need faith because of our very thing element. Therefore, Bible God's nonexistence is a very clever idea.

9/19/2012 3:56:52 AM

Jasper Spotty-Butt

Did you know that computers have nothing to with secular science? They are actually based purely on Bible faith (see Genesis for a fuller explanation).

Well, if you would put yourself in a more scholarly frame of mind, paid heed to the taxing yet fulfilling lectures of Dr. Tee, then the dribbling lunacies of delusional morons would be a lot clearer and easier to comprehend.

9/19/2012 4:10:34 AM

Titania

The good "doctor" is completely divorced from realtiy.

9/19/2012 4:11:51 AM

Leighton Buzzard

^ Divorced? They've never been introduced!

9/19/2012 4:13:28 AM

Frostythesnowman

Clearly Dave, you haven't wasted any time or resources in obtaining your doctorate because it's not a real one, as this rank idiocy so clearly demonstrates.

As to your inane question, your god doesn't say anything about science in your bible, because the bronze age goat herders, who made it all up, had no such concept in their lives.

9/19/2012 4:18:23 AM

Frostythesnowman

Satan made me post double..

9/19/2012 4:24:01 AM

Gimpo Pop-Eyes

NOTICE

Dr. David Tee SU, SDr, EI. (specialty unknown, secret doctorate, experience inapplicable)

Drooling by appointment only in large vacant chambers fully open 24/7. Bring your own bib and drip tray. Mop and bucket available on request for emergency flood conditions. Snorkels and flippers for rent. First-time Salivaters welcome. Area patrolled by life guards 24/7. Not suitable for aquaphobes or people of a sensitive disposition. Intelligence not desired and must be left with reception and can be collected on the way out if you can find the exit. Refreshments are available - ask the Tee Boy.

9/19/2012 4:35:40 AM

Justanotheratheist

Ah, the quack doctor is back.

But if secular science is "completely useless", how is this moron posting on the Internet?

PS Who gives a fuck what your non-existent god says or doesn't say?

9/19/2012 4:47:20 AM

Esquilax

Alright David, you can sit in the corner and do the kind of science that doesn't make your thinker box hurt too badly. We individuals actually concerned with illuminating the truth of the world we live in will be over here, defining and developing new technologies for you to use in decrying the very processes that allow you to do so...

9/19/2012 4:48:46 AM

Mister Spak

Faith doesn't exclude new information, it excludes the lies told by those who pursue alternatives to the Koran.

Another problem with that variety of science is that it is redundant and wastes valuable resources. We already know how everything came to be but since infidels reject Allah, they have to come up with something that doesn't contradict their myth. Thus they waste billions chasing an unprovable and unverifiable idea.

9/19/2012 5:44:21 AM

Doubting Thomas

"Waaaah, people are believing what logic and the scientific method tell them about the universe and not my ancient fairy tales!"

I'm almost curious to know how Mr. Tee thinks that God wants science to be used.

9/19/2012 5:49:37 AM

Xotan

Doctor Who?

9/19/2012 6:03:43 AM

Filin De Blanc

I guess we're just supposed to have FAITH that Tee is a real doctor as opposed to a giant charlatan.

9/19/2012 6:32:18 AM

Rob aka Mediancat

Where in the annals of science is there evidence of a "Supreme Being" whose word we should take over scientific facts?

I'll wait till you get back to me. I suspect I may be waiting a while.

9/19/2012 6:39:12 AM

dionysus

There in lies one of the problems with using secular science--it doesn't have the answers for the world and is completely useless.

Yeah. All of that penicillin that saved millions of lives was SUCH a waste of time and money. People should have just continued to pray while their firends, family, and neighbors continued to die horribly. Oh and forget about synthetic fertilizer. Feeding billions is clearly a waste of resources.

People are suffering because of this fruitless pursuit of knowledge we already have and that helps make their version of science wrong.

Keep preaching that. I want to see you shout this from the mountain tops. Nothing is a better advertisement for atheism than seeing the fruits of fundamentalist thinking. Most people know that science works and to attack it on religious grounds only delegitimizes your religion.

9/19/2012 6:42:30 AM

Horsefeathers

Hey "Doc", you know it's illegal in most places to claim degrees and academic titles you don't actually have. You're aware of that, correct?

9/19/2012 6:54:34 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

Once again, Science > The Bible. You shall deal.

9/19/2012 7:28:58 AM



I'm guessing that if you had a heart attack and needed emergency bypass surgery, you wouldn't find secular science to be so useless.

There's also nothing in the Bible about God granting permission for us to fly in airplanes ot go to the movies, but I'll bet you do those things.

And while we're on the subject, we'd like to have a look through your closet to check for clothing made of mixed fibers.

9/19/2012 7:35:34 AM

breakerslion

"God said, faith pleases Him; The JUST shall live by FAITH; and then we have all those people held up as examples for using FAITH in Hebrews 11."

... According to the Clerics. Now why would a religious institution demand belief without proof in an invisible sky fairy? I wonder....

9/19/2012 8:09:07 AM

John_in_Oz

Prove that scientifically and Ill believe you.

9/19/2012 8:22:07 AM

Ebon

Translation: Science that agrees with my worldview is good, science that doesn't is anti-god.

9/19/2012 9:03:43 AM



"That is why God said to get wisdom and understanding so that one can use discernment correctly when confronted with ideas that contradict the Bible and see when the blind are trying to over-rule those who have clear sight."

And that would be why you keep on insisting that insects have 4 legs... yes?

9/19/2012 9:52:32 AM

freako104

What are you a doctor of? Bullshit? Failing? And science > Bible. You might not want to talk anymore "Dr." Tee

9/19/2012 10:01:13 AM

Ludd

"There in lies one of the problems with using secular science--it doesn't have the answers for the world and is completely useless."

....says the guy using a computer to post this nonsense on the internet.

9/19/2012 10:56:27 AM
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