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Civil officials have a God ordained duty to execute sodomites.

The word of God commands, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Lev.20:13).

Have we not been taught that homosexuality is an abomination (Lev.18:22). And those who engage in homosexuality are so vile that their very presence defiles the land and its inhabitants (Lev.18:25-28).

This sodomite defilement brings eternal damnation upon all who approve of homosexuality (Rom.1:32, 13:2) and brings God's righteous judgment of punishment and death on the society as a whole (Gen.19:24-25, II Pet.2:6).

The Magistrate, in his proper role, "beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil" (Rom.13:4).

Since Magistrates have such a sure Biblical mandate to protect the innocent people in society by using the sword to execute sodomites (he that doeth evil), why then, are Christians encouraging civil officials to ignore the commandments of God concerning homosexuality?

Where does it say in the Bible, "If a man lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, you shall pass a Marriage Protection Amendment"?

Such legislative efforts make the commandments of God of no effect, and Christian men involved in these efforts should be ashamed of themselves for engaging in pharisaical deceit against the ordinance of God in front of His people (Matt.5:17-20, 15:7-9; Rom.13:2).

Jim Rudd , Covenant News 42 Comments [9/20/2012 5:50:59 AM]
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Standard issue fundy Christian homophobic utterance No1. Again.

9/20/2012 5:54:48 AM

Thou shalt not commit murder.

Bit of a conflict there, no?

9/20/2012 5:58:41 AM


"Civil officials have a God ordained duty to execute sodomites."

- You're about 300 years too late Jim. Besides, Rev. Phelps has this territory covered. You'd better find another way to get your attention fix.

Here's an idea, how about helping the poor and oppressed the way Jesus told you to?

9/20/2012 6:07:02 AM


The death penalty is also prescribed for working on Sundays yet I don't see one person demanding that we kill ER nurses. If even you, as a fundie Bible nut, can't be consistent with your own law why the hell should anyone ever listen to you? Besides, most Western countries are secular and as the Bible says, you need to obey your government (Romans 13:1).

9/20/2012 6:09:22 AM

D Laurier

Wow... Rudd is a scary loon.
Put it like this Rudd...
-I am wearing cotton/poly blend, contrary to your bronze age fairy tale.
-I am racialy impure, contrary to your bronze age fairy tale.
-And I like to eat shrimp, and clams, and other shellfish... plus I use a lot of bacon in my cooking. Again, contrary to your bronze age fairy tale.

According to your bronze age fairy tale... your "Magistrates" are supposed to kill me as well.

PS... I'm banging a white chick.

9/20/2012 6:10:50 AM

Filin De Blanc

Where does it say in the Bible "all the laws of the old testament are obsolete except for the "kill gays" one"?

9/20/2012 6:23:28 AM


What D Laurier said, except the "banging the white chick" part. We're all doomed.

9/20/2012 6:26:58 AM


Let's see you try it, you useless piece of crap.

Your time in jail will give you a real insight into the activities of sodomites.

9/20/2012 6:36:04 AM


"Where does it say in the Bible..."

Who. Gives. A. Flying. Fuck?

9/20/2012 6:39:54 AM

Doubting Thomas

This is why our government is not based upon the bible. Because we're far more civilized than that.

Do we also have a duty to stone to death disobedient children? Or anyone working on the Sabbath? Or anyone wearing clothes of mixed fibers? Or anyone eating shellfish? Funny how all these Old Testament laws were "nailed to the cross" and are now null and void except that homosexuality thing.

9/20/2012 6:57:15 AM

Thinking Allowed

Along with the whole "Give unto Caesar's which is Caesar's" I would like to quote this from another document which isn't probably as familiar to Jim.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances.

9/20/2012 8:10:12 AM


Why don't you work out your sectarian conflicts concerning the keeping of the Old Laws with groups such as this one and get back to us, hypocrite?


9/20/2012 8:18:28 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Who opened this guy's cage? His handlers better get him back before he does any real damage or they might be fired.

9/20/2012 8:44:39 AM


Civil officials have a God ordained duty to execute sodomites.

Jim Rudd and the Taliban - perfect together.

9/20/2012 8:50:34 AM

Mister Spak

Civil officials have a constitution ordained duty to lock you up.

We read in the constitution of the USA "Congress shall make no law respectin an establishment of religion".

Since Magistrates have such a sure Constitutional mandate to protect the innocent people in society by using the sword to execute christianists (he that doeth evil), why then, is Jim Rudd encouraging civil officials to ignore the constitution concerning religion? Because He's a mentally ill christianist who thinks there is a giant man with a long white beard who lives on clouds who is telling him to do things.

9/20/2012 9:48:09 AM


I thought you were pro life? Selective life. Any arguments you make against abortion are now null and void. Also many Christians try the "IT is not valid anymore" bullshit and you cherry pick. Fail

9/20/2012 9:57:18 AM


If civil officials executed everyone who violated something the Bible said deserved the death penalty, there' be very few people left.

9/20/2012 10:33:54 AM

HA! then you have to put to death about a quarter of the republican house.

besides, i dont think you have any magistrates anymore. they all go by different titles, given to them from a secular government.

9/20/2012 11:08:40 AM


Why did the founding fathers bother writing a contitutuion when they actually meant we all should live by the bible?

9/20/2012 11:44:52 AM


The word of God some anonymous bronze-age Arabs commands, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them"

9/20/2012 1:00:14 PM

Oh My Dog!

My, you are a nasty little theocrat aren't you?

9/20/2012 2:16:31 PM

Civil officials , magistrates, judges, police, dire , everyone else have a duty to abide by the laws of the city, county, state and country in which they live. The Christian God has no mandate to order anything contrary to those laws.

If thats too hard for you perhaps move to a country ruled by the christian church. That would be the Vatican and the Pope. Pity about the homosexual child molesting preists but you can fix that I a sure.


9/20/2012 2:22:32 PM


Since when did God start hiring and paying civil officials?

Sorry America, this one seems to be doing you no service at all. He seems pre-neanderthal. And his constant harping on killing gays makes him someone the police should be taking an interest in.

9/20/2012 4:16:04 PM


What if the bible is just a steaming pile of bullshit though? Just sayin'.

9/20/2012 4:53:57 PM


Yeah and it says no wanking in there somewhere too. We're all doomed!

9/20/2012 5:38:22 PM
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