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How did you know that there are plenty of religious people in prison ? How, by statistics ? Statistics do not and can not possibly know, because NO ONE can be inside one's head to know what one truly believes or what one lies about. Just because a prisoner opens the bible for the first time, just probably to show up to get early parole does not mean he believes the book he is staring at. You can only define a man best thru his deeds, not what he says or said. Evil deeds are done by evil people.

This another flaw that you are displaying in public, no different than the one which you think "trusting" is "knowing". Need I insult you for your obvious flaws, no, of course not. I have no ego like you do to insult your neighbors to feel better than them. ”

c0astalgreens, Huffington Post 46 Comments [9/20/2012 6:36:31 AM]
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Esquilax

Oh look, another fundy for whom reality has no bearing on what he believes. How rare!

9/20/2012 6:40:12 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"Just because a prisoner opens the bible for the first time, just probably to show up to get early parole does not mean he believes the book he is staring at."

- And just because a GOP politician includes a few bible quotes in the speech his staff wrote for him does not mean he believes the book he is quoting from. That doesn't stop your lot from nodding your heads and thinking, "He's one of us!"

9/20/2012 6:42:11 AM

Doubting Thomas

You can only define a man best thru his deeds, not what he says or said. Evil deeds are done by evil people.

Except, I'm guessing, that this doesn't apply to atheists because they're automatically evil no matter what they do.

9/20/2012 6:44:53 AM

breakerslion

No True Scotsman Fail number 9,876,767,243. with bonus hypocrisy fail for: "I have no ego like you do to insult your neighbors to feel better than them."

9/20/2012 6:47:40 AM

anevilmeme

The last two sentences contained so much irony that my brain crawled out of my skull and hid under my desk.

9/20/2012 6:51:48 AM

checkmate

How did you know that there are plenty of religious people in prison ? How, by statistics? Statistics do not and can not possibly know, because NO ONE can be inside one's head to know what one truly believes or what one lies about.

Wait, let me fix that for you:

How did you know that the USA is a Christian country? How, by statistics? Statistics do not and can not possibly know, because NO ONE can be inside one's head to know what one truly believes or what one lies about.

or:

How did you know that the Republican Party is led by Christian values? How, by statistics? Statistics do not and can not possibly know, because NO ONE can be inside one's head to know what one truly believes or what one lies about.

Eat your own words, dumbass.

9/20/2012 7:47:45 AM

OtakuX

"Evil deeds are done by evil people. " and Christians are evil people, yes.

9/20/2012 7:56:49 AM

JSS

"Evil deeds are done by evil people."

And no True Christian could ever do anything evil.

And no True Scotsman walks out of the house without wearing a kilt.

9/20/2012 8:00:06 AM



a peron who claims to be a christian is a christian until the church starts issuing membership cards. I wait eagerly for Catholics, eastern orthodox ,baptist, luthern, Mormons and the snake handlers to agree on one interpretation of Gods will.

What do I think of a married christian who leads a very large congregation yet who is alledged to indulge in homesexual acts with his drug dealer prostitute boyfriend ?
*cough* Ted Haggard *cough*

9/20/2012 8:08:13 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Nah...christians NEVER lie.

Stop bitching because the stats reflect poorly on your side.

9/20/2012 8:39:37 AM

John

The old "there are no religious people in jail because if they're in jail, they're not religious" argument - aka, the "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

9/20/2012 8:40:45 AM

freako104

The GAO can give statistics on that. Evil deeds done by evil people? What if they are doing it because of the Bible? If you read it, you'd know it says to kill unbelievers and homosexuals, etc.

9/20/2012 9:21:12 AM

Mister Spak

"Statistics do not and can not possibly know, because NO ONE can be inside one's head to know what one truly believes or what one lies about."

But in spite of this, you present statistic "proving" gays die at age 41, and liberals are more likely to be suicidal drug addict serial killers.

"This another flaw that you are displaying in public, no different than the one which you think "trusting" is "knowing"."

Like the way you trust Fox "news"?

9/20/2012 9:32:43 AM

dionysus

Statistics do not and can not possibly know, because NO ONE can be inside one's head to know what one truly believes or what one lies about.

Fair enough. Then you can no longer use "Stalin was an atheist" as an argument. After all, you can't get inside his head and he might have been lying. Or what about the Muslim terrorists? Maybe they're not actually Muslim. Oh, but that's different isn't it? That doesn't make YOUR group look bad so it's okay to take their word for it, right?

9/20/2012 10:53:35 AM

David B.

"How did you know that there are plenty of religious people in prison ?"

Equally, I guess, we don't know there are plenty of religious people out of prison. Maybe there are only a couple of dozen Christians in the whole country, plus a hell of a lot of pretenders.

That'd certainly help reconcile this...

...with this...
Matthew 6:5 - "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others."

9/20/2012 11:05:19 AM

Philbert McAdamia

NO ONE can be inside one's head to know what one truly believes or what one lies about.

So . . . the cave dwellers who wrote your book . . .

--- or ---
are you lying?

9/20/2012 11:11:51 AM

werewolf

"Evil deeds are done by evil people."

If this was always true, how would you explain Christians and the things they've done?

Is it because Deus vult?

9/20/2012 12:43:44 PM

VioletBeauregarde

You owe me a new irony meter!

9/20/2012 12:56:45 PM

farpadokly

We went through this no true Scotsman nonsense with Anders Breivik.
Not only do religious people do evil things, but the whole narrative of the Abrahamic religions, and particularly Christianity, which is one of sin and redemption, encourages the perhaps unconscious acting-out of that archetype. Watch the Christian channels and you'll come across some hellfire preacher who talks passionately about how he used to drink, smoke, do drugs, how he got in trouble with the police. But now he's saved.
His former iniquities are the shade which make the sunshine of his salvation all the brighter. There are many, many people who have followed the trajectory of this narrative, even to the point of last-minute repentance before the electric chair. It's one of the dark sides of the psychology of Christianity.

9/20/2012 2:11:10 PM

24601

"Evil deeds are done by evil people."
Hello, Inspector Javert. I see you survived the Seine.

9/20/2012 2:11:49 PM



"You can only define a man best thru his deeds, not what he says or said. Evil deeds are done by evil people"

I thought that salvation came only through Grace, not by earthly deeds?

9/20/2012 2:35:35 PM

Fawful has seen God has a vagina on top of his penis

@dionysus

Stalin was actually never an atheist? What kind of atheist orders a procession in the middle of a seige?

9/20/2012 3:54:04 PM

JohnTheAtheist

Ah, so no TRUE christians commit crimes, got it.

9/20/2012 4:55:09 PM

whatever

@OtakuX
""Evil deeds are done by evil people. " and Christians are evil people, yes."

With fstdters like you, who needs fundies? Some of the nicest people I know are Christians, and as for atheists, let's not go down that old Stalin road again...

I agree with the OP when he/she says "You can only define a man best thru his deeds, not what he says or said."


9/20/2012 5:07:15 PM

Sasha

If a person claims to be Christian (or Jewish or Muslim or Buddhist, etc. etc.), why should I not believe them? Presumably they know what's going on inside their own heads.

If you want to claim they're all lying, present your evidence. So far all you have is, "I know better than the so-called statistics what religion convicts follow, because I'm right and everyone else is wrong."

9/20/2012 6:06:26 PM
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