Ronald B. Stetton #fundie

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We stood strong (aside from Jimmy Carter) with Israel for 70 years. We had a COVENANT with them that Obama Hussein CONFIRMED WITH MANY when he was elected and inaugurated as POTUS. Just a few months ago, after 3.5 years, Obama Hussein broke that COVENANT.

Obama Hussein does not stand with the Father and the Son. Obama Hussein stands with the 'great' (his words) Islam. He stands with THEM; he stands with their FALSE PROPHET; and he stands with their god ALLAH.

Jerusalem is the center of the world, the capital of Israel, and the center of chaos that was begun by the 9/11 attacks on our Consulate in Libya.

Until Obama Hussein, we stood beside her. Now, she stands with only God as her Protector. As a nation, that which elected a man named "Hussein," we have foresaken her.

Yet, everyone seems so surprised...

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old comment by Dyz

"the center of chaos that was begun by the 9/11 attacks on our Consulate in Libya"

Why does your version of history always start with evil other people did to you?

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Chomsky: It's very simple. If they do it, it's terrorism. If we do it, it's counter-terrorism. That's a historical universal. Go back to Nazi propaganda. The most extreme mass murderers ever. If you look at Nazi propaganda, that's exactly what they said. They said they're defending the populations and the legitimate governments of Europe like Vichy from the terrorist partisans who are directed from London. That's the basic propaganda line. And like all propaganda, no matter how vulgar, it has an element of truth. The partisans did carry out terror, they were directed from London. The Vichy government is about as legitimate as half the governments the US has installed around the world and supports, so yes, there was a minor element of truth to it, and that's the way it works. If somebody else carries it out, it's terror. If we carry it out, it's counter-terror. I think perhaps one of the most dramatic examples right at this moment is a place where I just was a couple of weeks ago, southeastern Turkey. Southeastern Turkey is the site of some of the worst terrorist atrocities of the 1990s.

old comment by Dyz

Noam Chomsky: Yeah, U.S. terrorism is often far worse because it’s a powerful state. Take 9/11. That was a serious terrorist act. In Latin America, they often call it “the second 9/11” because there was another one, namely September 11, 1973.

Guernica: In Chile.

Noam Chomsky: Suppose that al Qaeda had not just blown up the World Trade Center, but suppose that they’d bombed the White House, killed the president, established a military dictatorship, killed maybe fifty to a hundred thousand people, maybe tortured seven hundred thousand, instituted a major international terrorist center in Washington, which was overthrowing governments around the world and installing malicious dictatorships, assassinating people, [and] brought in a bunch of economists who drove the economy into its worst disaster maybe in history. Well, that would be worse than what we call 9/11. And it did happen, namely on 9/11/1973. All that I’ve changed is per capita equivalence in numbers, a standard way to measure. Well, okay, that’s one we were responsible for. So yeah, it’s much worse.

old comment by michael3ov

I am really curious what Obama has done differently then any other president before him. Oh thats right, nothing!

His policies towards Israel are exactly the same. I am sure you would now pull out the old canard, "Obama has never visited Israel since he became president". You're right, he hasn't. George W. Bush didn't visited Israel until eight years into his presidency, George H.W. Bush never visited Israel, Clinton visited in his second, third, and fourth year, Reagan never visited, Carter third year of his presidency, Nixon in his sixth, and before that no president ever visited Israel.

Just say that you don't like the man because he is black and has a foreign sounding name.

old comment by pete

I realize that Ron is beyond hope but here are a couple historical tidbits for sane people.

President Carter brokered the Camp David Accords. These agreements have become a lasting treaty between Israel and Egypt. Egypt had, until that time, been one of Israel's most bitter foes.

Jerusalem is not the center of the world, the capital of Israel, or the center of the so-called chaos that began on 9/11/2001. The earth's core is the center of the world, Tel Aviv is the center of Israel's government, and the chaos unleashed by Dubbya was centered in Afghanistan, then Iraq, and now again Afghanistan and the adjacent areas of Pakistan.

U.S. military aid and cooperation with Israel reached it's peak in 2011 and is expected to grow a bit this year and next. And the next. And the next...

(Another note on Jerusalem. If the radical right-wing of Israel gets their wish Jerusalem would indeed became their official capital. Then they would exclude all Muslims AND CHRISTIANS from their Holy City. How long would America's Reichwhiners maintain their love for Israel if all non Jews were expelled from Jerusalem?)

old comment by Xotan

Hold on a moment. Israel? Covenant with it? The Israelis are Jews. And Jews have been blackballed in the US; from the political arena to the social and religious. They are the 'Killers of Christ' . They reject his teaching. Maryland, despite George Washinton's comment that Jews were Americans, not merely tolerated, had to introduce the Jew Bill so as to secure the full political participation of Jews in the life of that state. I wonder about the current status of Jews gaining membership to countryclubs.

Israel, however, is now putting into practice against the original inhabitants of Palestine a programme of landgrabbing. I supposed I shouldn't be surprised at the US support for Israel, as the US did its own landgrabbing from the native Americans. History has a habit of biting one in the bum.

As to Allah, he is your god too as he was the god of Abraham, you ignoramus.

America would do well to remember where its oil comes from. Wasn't there a scramble to the pumps when Saddam Hussein set fire to the oil wells? Or will there be another sudden, convenient discovery of WMD to 'justify' yet another invasion?

Come on Ron! Grow up and face the facts. Israel is a noose around America's neck.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

And where, pray, was that 'Covenant' you Christains short-stroke it to, re. your 'support' for Israel, during, say, WWII...?

I met and talked with a survivor of Auschwitz, the worst of the death factories, He saw his entire family murdered before his eyes by the SS. His Jewish faith died along with his family then.

'The Covenant was broken that day. God is no longer here.'

His words.

Where, pray, was America in 1947? Not giving Palestine to the Jews to create the state of Israel in the first fucking place. 'Funding/military aid'? Bitch please. Israel's fledgling air force (when other countries in the Middle East didn't even have planes then) consisted of British Supermarine Spitfires.

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