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1-2-3-4. I don't owe Caesar a damn thing, and it is now to the point where the continued subsidizing of this utterly lawless and illegitimate government puts me in violaton of the

First Commandment (I AM the LORD thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods before me.)
by forcing me to break God's Law - the Natural Law - in order to follow the laws of the state; the

Second Commandment (Thou shalt not take the Name of the LORD thy God in vain.)
by punishing and imprisoning my fellow citizens (See Lakin, LTC Terry) who attempt to uphold their sworn oaths, and by forcing me to subsidize a government that is, to the man, populated by oathbreakers; the

Fourth Commandment (Honor thy father and thy mother.)
by actively and consciously destroying the family, discouraging right-ordered marriage through the welfare state, legislating perverted “false marriage” paradigms, facilitating the murder of children by their parents, and pitting society against their parents by encouraging or even mandating euthanasia via ObamaCare; the

Fifth Commandment (Thou shalt not murder.)
through the “legally sanctioned” and MANDATED taxpayer subsidizing of the holocaust of preborn children via abortion as well as the premeditated murder of thousands of Mexican civilians via Operation Fast & Furious; the

Sixth Commandment (Thou shalt not commit adultery.)
through the forced “legalization” of sodomite faux-marriage and the discouragement of chastity and marriage itself via the HHS contraceptive and sterilization mandate as well as welfare state; the

Seventh Commandment (Thou shalt not steal.)
via the government sanctioned, legalized and protected con?scation of private property, the illegal nullification of contracts by the federal government, and the stirring-up by the government of envy and the sense of entitlement to the property of others; the

Eighth Commandment (Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.)
by forcing me to subsidize and give my tacit approval to the lie of Barack Obama's presidency and the fundamental dishonesty of the Eric Holder Department of Justice, in addition to the mathematical lies regarding the state of the banking sectors and the mathematical impossibilities of the government run entitlement ponzi schemes; and the

Tenth Commandment (Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods.)
by forcing me to subsidize a government that is built on a premise of and is attempting to fully convert to a system based wholly upon coveting the property of one's neighbor and the forced redistribution of private property.

We're batting .800. Enough is enough. You CANNOT subsidize this government and still claim that God is “first” in your life. It is mathematically, metaphysically and morally impossible. You must choose your allegiances NOW. You must NOW choose who or what it is that you truly worship. Do you worship God or do you worship your wealth? Here's a simple litmus test for you: are you or are you not willing to give up all of your wealth in bearing witness to God in His Truth? If the answer is no, then stop calling yourself a Christian, because you very simply are not.

Ann Barnhardt, Barnhardt.biz 51 Comments [10/1/2012 7:23:24 AM]
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SpukiKitty

JESUS SAID THIS:

(From Mark 12:13-17 in the KJV)

13 And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.
14 And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men, but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?
15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.
16 And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's.
17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

PAY YOUR TAXES, CHEAPSKATE!

10/1/2012 7:31:22 AM

Veras_the_Brujah

I hereby present Ann Barnhardt a gold medal in mental gymnastics for the stretches necessary for any of this to make sense (to herself).

10/1/2012 7:38:52 AM

Raised by Horses

"I don't owe Caesar a damn thing."

Being dead, I don't think the Caesars would much mind even if you did.

10/1/2012 7:41:47 AM

Filin De Blanc

If you're against people who worship wealth, why do you support the party whose goals are solely to give more money to the rich?

10/1/2012 7:42:22 AM

Anon-e-moose

"1-2-3-4. I don't owe Caesar a damn thing"

Now, what made me think that this was the first line of Kent 'Oh, Mark 12:17 doesn't apply to me!' Hovind's defence testimony, just before it was laughed out of court, and the prosecutor merely pointed to Kentypoos, looked at the jury and said 'The prosecution rests'...?!

10/1/2012 7:53:43 AM

Tatsukun

Wait, aren't these the morons screaming that Islam should be banned because Muslims are Muslim first and American second? LOL Freaks

10/1/2012 8:05:00 AM

pete

Sigh... They just can't accept the simple fact that the U.S. is a secular nation and always has been. If the Founding Fathers had intended for the Ten Commandments to mean jack shit? They would have said so. Of course, Ann's examples are also strw men that only exist in the fevered minds of Reichwhiners who are outraged, outraged I say, that there's a black guy in the White House.

10/1/2012 8:11:16 AM

Mystik Spiral

Drama Queen much?

10/1/2012 8:31:19 AM

TB Tabby

First Commandment (I AM the LORD thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods before me.)
by forcing me to break God's Law - the Natural Law - in order to follow the laws of the state;


The government has not now, nor has it ever, claimed to be a god. Pay your taxes, you big baby.

the Second Commandment (Thou shalt not take the Name of the LORD thy God in vain.)
by punishing and imprisoning my fellow citizens (See Lakin, LTC Terry) who attempt to uphold their sworn oaths, and by forcing me to subsidize a government that is, to the man, populated by oathbreakers;


Terry Lakin disobeyed a direct order because he refuses to accept reality, and in doing so, broke the oath he took when he joined the military. Pay your taxes, you big baby.

the Fourth Commandment (Honor thy father and thy mother.)
by actively and consciously destroying the family, discouraging right-ordered marriage through the welfare state, legislating perverted “false marriage” paradigms, facilitating the murder of children by their parents, and pitting society against their parents by encouraging or even mandating euthanasia via ObamaCare;


None of the things you mentioned prevent you from having your not-actually-Biblical vision of a Leave It To Beaver nuclear family, especially not that bullshit claim about mandating euthanasia. Pay your taxes, you big baby.

the Fifth Commandment (Thou shalt not murder.)
through the “legally sanctioned” and MANDATED taxpayer subsidizing of the holocaust of preborn children via abortion as well as the premeditated murder of thousands of Mexican civilians via Operation Fast & Furious;


Since when do right-wingers care about citizens of other countries? Oh, right, since it became convenient. And do you take the same view towards wars and the death penalty? No? Didn't think so. To conservatives, the right to life begins at conception and ends at birth. Pay your taxes, you big baby.

10/1/2012 8:32:24 AM

TB Tabby

the Sixth Commandment (Thou shalt not commit adultery.)
through the forced “legalization” of sodomite faux-marriage and the discouragement of chastity and marriage itself via the HHS contraceptive and sterilization mandate as well as welfare state;


"Legal" is not the same as "compulsory." Nobody's forcing you to marry someone of the same sex or use contraceptives simply because they're available. Pay your taxes, you big baby.

the Seventh Commandment (Thou shalt not steal.)
via the government sanctioned, legalized and protected con?scation of private property, the illegal nullification of contracts by the federal government, and the stirring-up by the government of envy and the sense of entitlement to the property of others;


Citation needed. Pay your taxes, you big baby.

the Eighth Commandment (Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.)
by forcing me to subsidize and give my tacit approval to the lie of Barack Obama's presidency and the fundamental dishonesty of the Eric Holder Department of Justice, in addition to the mathematical lies regarding the state of the banking sectors and the mathematical impossibilities of the government run entitlement ponzi schemes;


Barack Obama is POTUS. He won the election fair and square and was born in Hawaii. No amount of stamping your feet and crying conspiracy will change that. And it's the god-fearing GOP that allowed those Ponzi schemes to go through in the first place. Pay your taxes, you big baby.

10/1/2012 8:33:22 AM

TB Tabby


and the Tenth Commandment (Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods.)
by forcing me to subsidize a government that is built on a premise of and is attempting to fully convert to a system based wholly upon coveting the property of one's neighbor and the forced redistribution of private property.


It'll take a lot more that raising taxes and closing loopholes to turn America into the Soviet Union. Especially since tax rates were much higher in the days when the Cold War was in full swing. PAY. YOUR. TAXES. YOU. BIG. BABY.

10/1/2012 8:34:29 AM

dionysus

I don't owe Caesar a damn thing

Take that up with Jesus, not me.

by forcing me to break God's Law - the Natural Law - in order to follow the laws of the state;

Nobody's forcing YOU to break any of God's laws or have other gods. Fail.

by actively and consciously destroying the family, discouraging right-ordered marriage through the welfare state, legislating perverted “false marriage” paradigms, facilitating the murder of children by their parents, and pitting society against their parents by encouraging or even mandating euthanasia via ObamaCare;

Nobody is telling you what kind of family to have or trying to destroy your family. Fail.

through the “legally sanctioned” and MANDATED taxpayer subsidizing of the holocaust of preborn children via abortion as well as the premeditated murder of thousands of Mexican civilians via Operation Fast & Furious;

Fair enough. Though you must also have been against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan too, right? If not then you are a hypocrite and you fail.

via the government sanctioned, legalized and protected con?scation of private property, the illegal nullification of contracts by the federal government, and the stirring-up by the government of envy and the sense of entitlement to the property of others;

Jesus said to pay your taxes. Taxes are not theivery. Fail.

by forcing me to subsidize and give my tacit approval to the lie of Barack Obama's presidency

Obama IS the president. He won in a landslide. Super fail.

by forcing me to subsidize a government that is built on a premise of and is attempting to fully convert to a system based wholly upon coveting the property of one's neighbor and the forced redistribution of private property.

Jesus said to give away all of your possessions and give them to the poor. Much more "redistribution" than the government has done. Mega ultra colossal fail.

We're batting .800.

Don't be so modest. Your failure is well over 100%

10/1/2012 9:03:00 AM



Here's a simple litmus test for you: are you or are you not willing to give up all of your wealth in bearing witness to God in His Truth? If the answer is no, then stop calling yourself a Christian, because you very simply are not.

Well, Ann? Have you given up all your wealth?

10/1/2012 9:05:04 AM

Mister Spak

"I don't owe Caesar a damn thing"

If you refuse to do what your big book-o-myths tells you to do then then stop calling yourself a Christian, because you very simply are not.


10/1/2012 9:14:12 AM

Woody

Oh dear, I think you are adding to the Biblical texts there and you know what the Bible says about that, don't you?

I think you have quite a lot of sucking up to do for that little sin. You had better start praying now.

10/1/2012 9:20:15 AM

Greater Good

Say "hi" to Kent Hovind for me!

10/1/2012 9:22:26 AM

dionysus

@#1453622

Here's a simple litmus test for you: are you or are you not willing to give up all of your wealth in bearing witness to God in His Truth? If the answer is no, then stop calling yourself a Christian, because you very simply are not.

Well, Ann? Have you given up all your wealth?


And if she has I'm curious how she's still running a website on the internet. I've been looking for a way to cut some overhead.

10/1/2012 9:56:36 AM

John_in_Oz

You're a bit confused about that quote, Ann.

It's sell all your goods and give the money to the poor.

10/1/2012 9:58:16 AM

fmitchell

Yes, yes, we know. Other people are breaking commandments and here you are unable to burn them at the stake. My heart bleeds.

10/1/2012 9:58:31 AM

John_in_Oz

I always wondered what was so 'clever' about Jesus' 'render unto Caesar' answer to the Pharisees that "they were amazed at him."
I heard an answer that I think deserves to be better known.
Just recently (his time)there had been a Bible bashing preacher (Old Testament only)stumping around Israel declaring that the whole country belonged to God.
Jesus' answer, if reported to Rome, would sound the essence of submission to Caesar, but to his audience it was saying 'Ceasar has no part of Israel.'
One of the ideas Christians proclaim is that the Romans got it wrong, thinking they were executing a rebel against Imperial Government when in fact he was secretly the son of God. I suggest that the Bible shows the opposite, they correctly executed a bible-bashing anti-Roman rebel, who had nothing spiritual to say that had not been already taught by Rabbi Hillel.
As with many religious cults, e.g. 7th Day Adventists, the utter failure of the cult's triumphant vindication didn't stop the followers from continuing the story. After this, a few miracle stories were attached to the deceased cult leader and his followers, similar to those of the Mithridateans.
The cult would have long since died out except for the fact the Roman Emperor of the world, Constantine, established it as the State religion.

10/1/2012 10:16:07 AM

navelgazer

You make little 8 lbs 6 oz baby Jesus cry!

10/1/2012 10:21:52 AM



"pitting society against their parents by encouraging or even mandating euthanasia via ObamaCare"

That's an impressively bald-faced lie that...

"through the “legally sanctioned” and MANDATED taxpayer subsidizing of the holocaust of preborn children via abortion"

And another lie... there is no taxpayer subsidization of Abortion in the US.

"by forcing me to subsidize and give my tacit approval to the lie of Barack Obama's presidency"

You got proof that he's not the elected and constitutionally valid PotUS? Of course not... so you're lying here too.

Wait... 3 lies there, one of them in the part about NOT FUCKING LYING!!!

Sorry Ann... you are no Christian. A Christian wouldn't lie so much about things. :)

10/1/2012 10:31:29 AM

farpadokly

Someone should tell this guy that he doesn't live in a Christian theocracy and therefore the ten commandments don't apply. Tell him he lives in a secular republic with a constitution. Tell him if he feels that way, secede from the United States. Go and buy up some land in South America or somewhere and start his own Christian theocracy. Call it Christiana. Make abortion and homosexuality punishable by death there, go nuts. Then watch the Amnesty International reports pile up as the place becomes a Christian Saudi Arabia.
And as for "coveting the property of one's neighbour". It depends on how the property of your neighbour was arrived at. Some Christian socialists say that a profit system is itself a giant act of theft, thereby breaking the seventh commandment. Read the Bible, is it really propertarian? Really? People who are against redistribution can only be for concentration of wealth, but what about Dives and Lazarus? What about the camel and the eye of the needle?
Edit: Sorry, woman.

10/1/2012 12:13:34 PM

Old Viking

An immense pile of doo-doo.

10/1/2012 12:34:38 PM

David B.

"forcing me to break God's Law - the Natural Law - in order to follow the laws of the state"

Romans 13:1-10, "Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law."

So shut up and pay up.

10/1/2012 12:36:24 PM
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