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A very good reason the Bible doesn't focus on forced servitude is that slavery of the mind to sin is a much bigger problem than the imprisonment of the body. It is meaningless for someone to gain physical freedom and lose his eternal soul

Todd Strandberg, rapture ready 40 Comments [9/23/2012 6:36:22 AM]
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#1450312
Grogs

I'm pretty sure that *owning another human being* would be one of those sins your god was concerned about. If not, he's an asshole. The Bible spends an inordinate amount words describing things like burnt offerings, and chopping off foreskins, , but for some reason the only mentions of slavery are either neutral or pro-slavery. It's almost as if the whole thing was written by an ancient culture to justify their behavior by giving it the seal of approval from a deity.

9/23/2012 6:56:05 AM

#1450316
Filin De Blanc

What about all the "feed the poor" stuff? Jesus seemed to think temporal concerns were pretty damn important, why not condemn slavery as well? But then again this is Rapture Ready where they worship Republican Jesus.

9/23/2012 7:01:36 AM

#1450317
Fundies Make Me Sick

Slavery apologist. Fuck off and die.

9/23/2012 7:01:58 AM

#1450321
Danarth

Well, Todd, why don't you try living under the conditions of slavery for a while, see how you feel afterwards?

9/23/2012 7:04:08 AM

#1450323
Alencon

Hmmm, rationalize much?

9/23/2012 7:05:21 AM

#1450330
John

The parts of the Bible that condone and discuss slavery never mention losing one's eternal soul. The idea of an eternal soul that survives in an afterlife or gets resurrected is a concept found in the New Testament or very late Old Testament apocrypha, not in slavery-condoning books like Deuteronomy or Leviticus. The ancient Jews didn't really think much about what happens after death.

9/23/2012 7:15:24 AM

#1450338
D Laurier

FUCK!
Ignoring the fact that "slavery of the mind to sin" is utter rubbish... BODYS EXIST.

9/23/2012 7:32:01 AM

#1450343
Philbert McAdamia

Grasping at any straw to justify their insane beliefs.

9/23/2012 7:40:49 AM

#1450345
Berny

So you'd be OK if I held you and your family as slaves and made you cater to my every whim and do every chore for me, as long as I let you believe in your God? Why didn't you say so earlier? When can you start?

9/23/2012 7:44:52 AM

#1450356
Grogs

@Berny: "So you'd be OK if I held you and your family as slaves and made you cater to my every whim and do every chore for me, as long as I let you believe in your God? Why didn't you say so earlier? When can you start?"

Well it would explain why the RR types so heavily favor the Republican party. That's pretty much their utopian vision for how labor should be in the United States.

9/23/2012 8:16:19 AM

#1450357
Oh My Dog!

Yes, I agree, slavery of the mind is a bad thing but not for the same reasons you are putting forth.

You are currently enslaved to fundamentalism. Rationalizing slavery instead of being able to see that it is wrong is certainly evidence for that.

9/23/2012 8:18:34 AM

#1450364
JeanP

"It is meaningless for someone to gain physical freedom and lose his eternal soul"

So, ummn, better being enslaved than not believing in God?

Some Muslim and Christian theologians argued slavery will help to convert unbeliever : George Whitefield reestablished slavery in Georgia and Dr. Abdul-Latif Mushtahari
proclamed that slaves can be taken during wars against non-Muslims for this motive.

@Grogs
"Well it would explain why the RR types so heavily favor the Republican party. That's pretty much their utopian vision for how labor should be in the United States."

After all Falwell said Bible study is more useful to reduce work conflicts than trade unions.

9/23/2012 8:33:32 AM

#1450373
Thinking Allowed

So what is that in the bible about owning people from other lands?

9/23/2012 8:44:37 AM

#1450375
JSS

Arguments that are only meaningful within the context of your own religion are not valid arguments. Sorry.

9/23/2012 8:47:08 AM

#1450386
Mayhem

I agree completely.

Now, put on this rubber mask, lick my feet, and eat this bowl of my poop, slave. Your salvation requires it.

9/23/2012 9:32:39 AM

#1450388
freako104

No. Just no. Fail! Fail hard. Even I who also believes in a soul says no. All you want is to justify slavery. Face it your Bible justifies evil and you want to justify it any way you can

9/23/2012 9:48:10 AM

#1450393


Oh Todd... the Bible is a pretty big book. I'm sure they could have managed to fit in "Oh yeah, and owning another person is wrong, ok?" in somewhere...

They could even put it in there in place of the various verses dealing with how you could own them, for how long, what you could do with any children born to your slaves, how close to death you could beat them...

9/23/2012 10:00:48 AM

#1450397
Giardano Bruno

"I was hungry and you fed me. I was naked and you clothed me. I was in prison and you visited me."

But then no True Christian™ would listen to the temporal ravings of a Palestinian socialist, would they?

9/23/2012 10:10:57 AM

#1450400
Sasha

Do we need any more evidence that fundies are dangerous to a civilized society?

9/23/2012 10:14:44 AM

#1450406
LAchlan

How about "A very good reason the Bible doesn't focus on forced servitude is that it's fucking 2000 years out of date!"

9/23/2012 10:32:55 AM

#1450410


so, "let me beat you , starve you, rape you, abuse you physically , mentally and emotionally, but don't worry , you will be rewarded in heaven."

If thats your position then please DIAF.

9/23/2012 10:39:44 AM

#1450419
anevilmeme

Any bets Todd managed to type that with a straight face?

9/23/2012 10:54:24 AM

#1450432
John_in_Oz

Spoken by somene who clearly has no soul.

9/23/2012 11:42:28 AM

#1450446
fireweaver

They ought to call that site "Rupture Ready" because they all sound like they are about to explode.

9/23/2012 12:43:41 PM

#1450448
Old Viking

Shit, Todd didn't get the memo. Todd, baby, none of us has an "immortal soul." Sorry, but that's just the way it is.

9/23/2012 12:49:42 PM
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