I'm pretty sure that *owning another human being* would be one of those sins your god was concerned about. If not, he's an asshole. The Bible spends an inordinate amount words describing things like burnt offerings, and chopping off foreskins, , but for some reason the only mentions of slavery are either neutral or pro-slavery. It's almost as if the whole thing was written by an ancient culture to justify their behavior by giving it the seal of approval from a deity.
9/23/2012 6:56:05 AM
Filin De Blanc
What about all the "feed the poor" stuff? Jesus seemed to think temporal concerns were pretty damn important, why not condemn slavery as well? But then again this is Rapture Ready where they worship Republican Jesus.
9/23/2012 7:01:36 AM
Fundies Make Me Sick
Slavery apologist. Fuck off and die.
9/23/2012 7:01:58 AM
Well, Todd, why don't you try living under the conditions of slavery for a while, see how you feel afterwards?
9/23/2012 7:04:08 AM
Hmmm, rationalize much?
9/23/2012 7:05:21 AM
The parts of the Bible that condone and discuss slavery never mention losing one's eternal soul. The idea of an eternal soul that survives in an afterlife or gets resurrected is a concept found in the New Testament or very late Old Testament apocrypha, not in slavery-condoning books like Deuteronomy or Leviticus. The ancient Jews didn't really think much about what happens after death.
9/23/2012 7:15:24 AM
Ignoring the fact that "slavery of the mind to sin" is utter rubbish... BODYS EXIST.
9/23/2012 7:32:01 AM
Grasping at any straw to justify their insane beliefs.
9/23/2012 7:40:49 AM
So you'd be OK if I held you and your family as slaves and made you cater to my every whim and do every chore for me, as long as I let you believe in your God? Why didn't you say so earlier? When can you start?
9/23/2012 7:44:52 AM
@Berny: "So you'd be OK if I held you and your family as slaves and made you cater to my every whim and do every chore for me, as long as I let you believe in your God? Why didn't you say so earlier? When can you start?"
Well it would explain why the RR types so heavily favor the Republican party. That's pretty much their utopian vision for how labor should be in the United States.
9/23/2012 8:16:19 AM
Oh My Dog!
Yes, I agree, slavery of the mind is a bad thing but not for the same reasons you are putting forth.
You are currently enslaved to fundamentalism. Rationalizing slavery instead of being able to see that it is wrong is certainly evidence for that.
9/23/2012 8:18:34 AM
"It is meaningless for someone to gain physical freedom and lose his eternal soul"
So, ummn, better being enslaved than not believing in God?
Some Muslim and Christian theologians argued slavery will help to convert unbeliever : George Whitefield reestablished slavery in Georgia and Dr. Abdul-Latif Mushtahari
proclamed that slaves can be taken during wars against non-Muslims for this motive.
"Well it would explain why the RR types so heavily favor the Republican party. That's pretty much their utopian vision for how labor should be in the United States."
After all Falwell said Bible study is more useful to reduce work conflicts than trade unions.
9/23/2012 8:33:32 AM
So what is that in the bible about owning people from other lands?
9/23/2012 8:44:37 AM
Arguments that are only meaningful within the context of your own religion are not valid arguments. Sorry.
9/23/2012 8:47:08 AM
I agree completely.
Now, put on this rubber mask, lick my feet, and eat this bowl of my poop, slave. Your salvation requires it.
9/23/2012 9:32:39 AM
No. Just no. Fail! Fail hard. Even I who also believes in a soul says no. All you want is to justify slavery. Face it your Bible justifies evil and you want to justify it any way you can
9/23/2012 9:48:10 AM
Oh Todd... the Bible is a pretty big book. I'm sure they could have managed to fit in "Oh yeah, and owning another person is wrong, ok?" in somewhere...
They could even put it in there in place of the various verses dealing with how you could own them, for how long, what you could do with any children born to your slaves, how close to death you could beat them...
9/23/2012 10:00:48 AM
"I was hungry and you fed me. I was naked and you clothed me. I was in prison and you visited me."
But then no True Christian™ would listen to the temporal ravings of a Palestinian socialist, would they?
9/23/2012 10:10:57 AM
Do we need any more evidence that fundies are dangerous to a civilized society?
9/23/2012 10:14:44 AM
How about "A very good reason the Bible doesn't focus on forced servitude is that it's fucking 2000 years out of date!"
9/23/2012 10:32:55 AM
so, "let me beat you , starve you, rape you, abuse you physically , mentally and emotionally, but don't worry , you will be rewarded in heaven."
If thats your position then please DIAF.
9/23/2012 10:39:44 AM
Any bets Todd managed to type that with a straight face?
9/23/2012 10:54:24 AM
Spoken by somene who clearly has no soul.
9/23/2012 11:42:28 AM
They ought to call that site "Rupture Ready" because they all sound like they are about to explode.
9/23/2012 12:43:41 PM
Shit, Todd didn't get the memo. Todd, baby, none of us has an "immortal soul." Sorry, but that's just the way it is.
9/23/2012 12:49:42 PM