Quote# 89726

We continue to suffer the catastrophic consequences of Obama’s fantasist, anti-freedom foreign policy. The U.S. government is now saying that these anti-freedom riots have nothing to do with America or U.S. policy, but are solely about a video about Muhammad.

In fact, the riots have everything to do with America and U.S. policy. They are about freedom of conscience and freedom of speech: they’re an attempt to get the U.S. to shut down free speech and criminalize criticism of Islam, in accord with Shariah blasphemy laws. And the Obama administration is responding by putting a huge target on the head of the First Amendment (and on that of every U.S. citizen who exercises that constitutional right). This is a constitutional coup.

Pamela Geller, World Net Daily 34 Comments [9/24/2012 3:40:12 AM]
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Rabbit of Caerbannog

"This guy's the crazy one? He's..."

I'm gonna stop you right there. Clearly Pamela Geller is a woman. Reading comprehension is your friend.

9/24/2012 9:00:45 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

"...complaining about Obama throwing the victums under the bus by blaming a movie for them getting killed."

Okay, let's get one thing clear: Obama has done absolutely nothing wrong in this scenario. Contrary to prevailing Republican groupthink, he never apologized to the Muslim world. He also never threw anyone under the bus. If I were to say that an anti-Islamic film was responsible for the majority of the Islamic riots going on, I'd be correct.

9/24/2012 9:02:05 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog


With the possible exception of the Libyan attack, which appears to have been a calculated al-Qaeda terrorist strike, the mobs around embassies in Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Indonesia, etc. have been motivated by The Innocence of Muslims, an anti-Muslim propaganda piece created by a meth-cooking fraudster who conned amateur actors and actresses into starring in it and dubbing over their lines. Furthermore, he made damn sure this would incite a violent reaction by advertising the film as The Innocence of Bin Laden in order to attract the attention of only the most fanatical Muslims. And lo and behold, he got the reaction he was hoping for. Now innocent people are being killed and intimidated because they were caught in the crossfire between Islamist mobs and fundamentalist Coptic Christian exiles. Of course Nakoula Basseley Nakoula has a right to produce this trash--barring the aforementioned conjob on the movie's stars--but as Salman Rushdie noted, it doesn't make him any less of an asshole.

9/24/2012 9:02:53 PM


The first 9/11; Chile 1973.

America; number 1 terrorist state since WW2.

Your foreign policy is not about promoting; "freedom of conscience and freedom of speech". It is in fact the opposite.

9/25/2012 3:18:01 AM


@ Stop Groveling:

The only thing that keeps christians under control in the US is the law and sometimes even the threat of incarceration isn't enough to hold them back. Ask George Tiller or the Avery family (provided you have a Ouija board, of course).

Christian Terrorism.

9/25/2012 8:30:55 AM


Except, of course, that it isn't.

9/25/2012 8:32:18 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

I haven't heard any talk by Obama or any politician saying that making films about Islam or featuring Muhammad should be banned so your pontificating seems to be a lot of hot air.

9/25/2012 10:27:02 AM

Thinking Allowed

Hey Pam, you really should take a civics class.

9/25/2012 10:34:30 AM

Dogma's Demise

Let's see here:

1. Under Obama's watch, the Muslim Brotherhood has been allowed to take power in Egypt and other countries "liberated" by the "Arab Spring" (the Islamic Winter). Nice going there, America. And now you're STILL sending them military aid in the MILLIONS.
2. He wants to arm Syrian rebels who are jihadists, NOT freedom fighters.
3. He's been silent on the genuinely secular uprisings (like in Iran in 2009).
4. He thinks Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. (Ha ha! Read "Reliance of the Traveler" then tell us with straight face that Islam is a religion of peace.)
5. He seems completely indifferent to the Muslim Brotherhood's agenda of "eliminating and destroying western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands" as revealed during the Holy Land Foundation trial
6. Despite his claims of being very pro-free speech he's consorting with the OIC and co-sponsoring resolution 16/18, another of the latest OIC (a cartel of mostly Islamic dictatorships and theocracies) attempt to limit criticism of Islam under the illusion of "combating religious hatred". That's not good. One that is so ardent about freedom of speech would tell the OIC to drop these infantile attempts, year after year, to find ways to curb criticism of Islam. It's not the first time they've done it, but previous attempts were outright rejected by the west because they were overtly anti-free speech. So now they pretend it's about "combating religious hatred" and not "defamation of religions". People should know better.

These are all legitimate concerns but FSTDT prefers to sweep everything under the rug, refuse to address the points being made and pretend the other side is just "crazy" and "fundamentalist".

It has long ceased to be an objective website exposing real fundamentalists and is now biased against the right.

There is a clear pattern where 99% of political comments you find "retarded" and "fundie" come from right-wingers, rarely from left.

5/12/2013 10:17:16 AM

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