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Lawrence v. Texas was a 5-4 decision and that's the one that gave the whole foundation for gay marriage because the court there said "look, here's the new deal: if it's consensual, it's constitutional."

Really?

So if an eleven year-old girl says she wants to have sex with a ninety-five year-old guy and they both consent, that's constitutional?

Now wait a minute; if five guys want to marry one girl and they consent, that's constitutional?

So what happened is that decision was a 5-4 decision that has opened the door to what we're seeing now not only with gay marriage but with what they're calling polyamorous marriages and open marriages and so many other things because the premise is that if everybody agrees, it's fine. And that's a wild decision.

David Barton, Right Wing Watch 47 Comments [9/27/2012 2:59:24 AM]
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Gressil

Actually Barton it's Biblical, Joseph was 90 and Mary was 13.

9/27/2012 12:24:09 PM

Nagol

An eleven year-old child cannot legally consent, and you know it. Enjoy burning in hell for violating the ninth commandment.

9/27/2012 12:43:36 PM

dfmfundies

@ John:

And one of the three was Clarence Thomas, who apparently never believes the Constitution gives individuals the right to much of anything.

If Thomas's jurisprudence held sway, he'd be the Court's slave, not a justice.

9/27/2012 12:56:22 PM

dfmfundies

@ Gressil:

Actually Barton it's Biblical, Joseph was 90 and Mary was 13.

Doesn't count. Catholics believe that Mary lived her whole life a virgin.

9/27/2012 1:03:02 PM

Old Viking

Everybody agrees you're feeble. What's so wild about that?

9/27/2012 1:34:56 PM

JB Mason

*AGE* of *CONSENT*, fucktard.

9/27/2012 1:37:09 PM

The Crimson Ghost

Worst argument ever!

9/27/2012 2:06:41 PM

GigaGuess

So if an eleven year-old girl says she wants to have sex with a ninety-five year-old guy and they both consent, that's constitutional?
No. An eleven year old cannot give informed consent.

Now wait a minute; if five guys want to marry one girl and they consent, that's constitutional?
I don't see the issue. Without a will, inheritance could get pretty sticky, but otherwise, as long as everyone's on the up and up, I see no reason to deny them.

So what happened is that decision was a 5-4 decision that has opened the door to what we're seeing now not only with gay marriage but with what they're calling polyamorous marriages and open marriages and so many other things because the premise is that if everybody agrees, it's fine. And that's a wild decision
Open Marriages ALREADY happen. There are many married couples who swing. And again, for polyamorous couples, if it works for them, and no one is being deceived as to the status of all involved, good for them. Why does it matter so much to you?

9/27/2012 3:35:40 PM

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9/27/2012 4:31:06 PM

Vet Emergency

Jesus H. Christ, I'm going to Hulk out the next time I hear some grade-A moron compare gay marriage to pedophilia or bestiality. CONSENT, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?!

9/27/2012 4:52:41 PM

Alencon

"So if an eleven year-old girl says she wants to have sex with a ninety-five year-old guy and they both consent, that's constitutional?"

No, because the eleven year-old girl is not an adult. You left out the "adult" part.

"Now wait a minute; if five guys want to marry one girl and they consent, that's constitutional?"

No, because marriage is a legal contract defined by the state. However if five guys want to make love to one girl, that's constitutional.

9/27/2012 5:10:04 PM

tracer

I would accuse you of making a Slippery Slope argument, except you probably think the word "slippery" is a sin.

9/27/2012 5:43:50 PM

Raised by Horses

All together now: 'One of these things is not like the other things..'

9/27/2012 6:49:40 PM

Snarker

I wish I had a slippery slope as big as yours. My sled would probably get me across state lines.

9/27/2012 7:35:31 PM

Berny

Consent can only be given by an adult. Is that so fucking hard to understand?

9/27/2012 7:55:41 PM

Ebon

Why can fundies never understand the concept of informed consent?

9/27/2012 10:08:07 PM

dfmfundies

@ Ebon:

Why can fundies never understand the concept of informed consent?

Because evidence that they understood it at one time could be used against them when they get caught screwing a minor.

9/28/2012 8:20:06 AM

Paler_Face

So if an eleven year-old girl says she wants to have sex with a ninety-five year-old guy and they both consent, that's constitutional?

No, because an 11-year old has not reached the age of content yet, and can therefore no consent to anything.

Now wait a minute; if five guys want to marry one girl and they consent, that's constitutional?

Though polygamy is tricky, I don't think there should be a law against it. Monogamy is now the standard simply because that is legally complicated enough as it is. Multiple partners would multiply the complixity of the already overly complicated rules quite a lot.
I would be fine with it if they al managed to have a stable relationship with each other, though.

So what happened is that decision was a 5-4 decision that has opened the door to what we're seeing now not only with gay marriage but with what they're calling polyamorous marriages and open marriages and so many other things because the premise is that if everybody agrees, it's fine.

You get a more free society with more potential options for everyone? Sounds like a good thing to me.

9/28/2012 8:43:48 AM

TheReasonator


"has opened the door to...open marriages and so many other things because the premise is that if everybody agrees, it's fine. And that's a wild decision."

Well guess what there are no laws that say a marriage is invalid if it is an open marriage, no need to "open" any doors.

9/28/2012 8:07:48 PM

Stonespiral

I've noticed people like this have no concept of 'informed consent'.

9/29/2012 4:10:03 AM

Cuneas

I'm acually totally in favor of polyamorous marriages being legalized, as long as they're handled in a modern, decent way and not as glorified harems, and believe they _will_ be legalized in the next hundred years.

Hell, they would probably already be legal if religious nuts like the Mormons weren't giving them a bad name.

10/12/2012 6:13:52 PM

Mark Poe

Wait a second... since when did fundies even care about consent?

3/8/2013 7:50:04 AM
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