Quote# 89771

Women are not men with a different shape. Women are different from men. They don't think like us at all. We men have more in common with male chimpanzees than we do with women. Women cannot conceive original ideas, aren't capable of independent thought, are not self-aware, and have no sense of fairness. This isn't to say that women can't be good. Women can be good, but in a different way from men. Women are good when they are guided to form the right emotional connections. And this happens when men form a society that causes this to happen. Of course this can't happen in societies where women vote. If you feel a strong compulsion for equality, I suggest you redirect it to other male primates. I would much rather have male chimps vote than women.

fschmidt, Love-Shy 85 Comments [9/27/2012 3:00:37 AM]
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Citation Needed that Jefferson actually said what fschmidt would apparently like to think that he said. A fairly deep Google search traces all references to that quote to a single source, "Women in American politics", by Martin Gruberg, published in 1968 and not available online. And the quote does not appear in the searchable archives of The Thomas Jefferson Papers (http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/).

Certainly Jefferson was a misogynist and a racist - he was a smart man and did some good things, but also far too many bad ones. But that particular quote does not appear easily attributable to him.

fschmidt Fails History Forever, in addition to everything else that he does wrong.

9/27/2012 11:58:43 PM



9/28/2012 6:30:19 AM



Good. You have demonstrated the ability to go look something up, although not the ability to use markup tags.

Now go learn biology, sociology, psychology, and all of the history that you are denying.

As I said, Jefferson's misogyny does nothing to excuse your own. Jefferson was a hateful liar, but he is long dead, so we don't need to call him out on this. You are still alive, and so we can tell you:


9/28/2012 6:43:22 AM



"Aren't you imbeciles getting bored of quoting me? I mean even low IQ people such as yourselves must eventually get bored of repeating the same insults over and over in response to my quotes."

9/28/2012 7:34:15 AM

The Crimson Ghost

You know what would be great? Stumbling across fschmidt's obit. That his little mexican wifey snapped & buried pinking shears in his throat.

Truly a disgrace to men everywhere & to humanity itself.

9/28/2012 7:34:15 AM


@The Crimson Ghost:

At the risk of tone-trolling: Don't wish death on fschmidt. That isn't helping. But you are right that he is a disgrace to every person on this planet, and most particularly to himself.

Call him out on his lies, ignorance, idiocy, and bigotry. And wish that he either learns how to live with other people or that he sits around harming no one while watching everybody build the better world that he apparently objects to. The latter should be more than sufficient punishment.

9/28/2012 9:55:19 AM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

"Aren't you imbeciles getting bored of quoting me? I mean even low IQ people such as yourselves must eventually get bored of repeating the same insults over and over in response to my quotes."

Clearly we're not tired of quoting your disturbing misogyny, hence it still shows up here, Frankie. Don't like it? Tough shit.

"Here is someone else you can pick on[...]"

...you do realize that Thomas Jefferson was also a slave owner too, right? So...therefore...slavery is moral according to your logic?

"By the way, I am married and have kids."

I think that qualifies as a hostage situation. Someone inform the Feds.

EDIT: Looks like Anon thoroughly schooled you on your Jefferson quote as well. Did you get your history lessons from David Barton?

9/28/2012 7:18:35 PM

The Crimson Ghost

@ Anon-

Did you actually read what he said? He is flat out stating that women are inferior in every conceivable way & are good only for housework & breeding. Women live under that every day. Perhaps not face to face, but it's there. Misogyny of that caliber makes my blood boil; it's a redhead thing:)

I stand by my post-he is a waste of skin & would be better off as a corpse. Hopefully he'll donate some organs so he may be of some use. He will never figure it out; he's not smart enough; not like a chimp.

9/28/2012 8:30:10 PM


@Rabbit of Caerbannog:

Jefferson may actually have said what fschmidt says he did. But that is irrelevant to his being a hateful bigoted fool.

@The Crimson Ghost:

fschmidt may be a waste of skin - he is certainly a contemptible hateful bigot, and would be criminally stupid if stupidity were a crime. But wishing death upon anyone is not appropriate.

Let fschmidt live a long life watching the entire world progress to a future of gender equality; let whatever family he may have leave him for far better lives; and let him never hurt anyone.

That is enough.

9/28/2012 9:01:05 PM


Well thank the gods your shitty disposition will keep your ass out of the gene pool forever then.

9/29/2012 4:09:05 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Sorry Anon-that is not enough. As long as "men" like him exist it will never be enough. He is a pathetic sack of pigeon shit & would be better used as filler in potholes on the GSP.

Considering the wave of quite hateful misogyny lately-a future of gender equality ain't comin'. Men like him never change. Not until they're dead.

9/29/2012 7:41:28 AM


Oh, it's from Love-Shy. Surprise, surprise ... Another idiot who never has and never will get laid.


9/29/2012 10:59:19 AM

The chimp part is a little insulting to men, if you think. Have you seen them lately in nature?

9/30/2012 7:38:48 AM

arent't you bored fschmidt to answer back?. If you're so sure of your statements, why are you so defensive?

9/30/2012 7:42:10 AM


@ Ghost

Death would be way to good for him, as long as he isn't hurting anyone else, he should live a long life alone and unloved.

9/30/2012 2:59:15 PM


@ Robert: I weep for his family! :'(

10/1/2012 2:56:22 AM


I wonder if his wife reads his posts?

10/1/2012 6:37:30 AM


From what I hear she doesn't speak (and presumably read) english.

10/1/2012 8:05:59 AM


Where did you hear that, Zim? From your Liberal god? My wife speaks English, Spanish, and a little Japanese. My wife reads some of my posts but doesn't have much interest because she already knows my views. After all, we have been married for 21 years.

10/1/2012 10:02:51 AM

Filin De Blanc

" My wife speaks English, Spanish, and a little Japanese."

How can she do that? I thought you said she wasn't sapient.

10/1/2012 10:05:02 AM

What the fuck is fschmidt doing on the love-shy forum if he's being married 21 years?!?!

At least this should be proof to you (fstdt members) that it isn't from the love-shy condition that these hateful views arise, it is from people who aren't even love-shy!

@passerby, being hurt by woman is not in a million years the same thing as love-shy!!

@ every idiot who tries to claim love-shy is made up just because they've been lucky enough to avoid it themselves, seriously some of you fucks are as unwilling to even TRY to understand something you don't have experience of as the fundies who you mock! Ironic, eh?

10/7/2012 10:03:29 AM

Filin De Blanc

@ Anonymous: I don't think anyone here actually disputes the existence of crippling social anxiety. We just don't think that people who have it should blame other people for their inability to get a date like the posts quoted on here do.

10/7/2012 10:16:35 AM


I noticed only the people from love shy seem to be the only ones to come here and try and defend there views.

10/8/2012 1:33:31 PM


Mmmmmm, so you are more closely related towards chimps? So I would suppose that women are more closely related to female chimps. Anyone else get that epiphany of evolution that this guy had? Btw, get out of 1963 and realize women are not some object of your advantage. Treat them right, or be punished by your "God"

10/8/2012 3:24:25 PM


I actually agree with the first two sentences, but it goes RAPIDLY downhill from there.

10/28/2012 6:51:06 AM

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