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Quote# 89786

I disagree with you.

We must love God, but we must also fear (respect) Him.

Women might love their husbands, but they have no fear of (respect for) them. The law neuters mens’ ability to maintain order in their own households. Preferably a man keeps order by inspiring love and obedience; if this does not work, I see no reason why he should not be able to use coercion just to the point of regaining control of the situation and his wife’s respect.

sunshinemary, Dalrock 49 Comments [9/27/2012 3:28:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Balthazar The Wise
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#1451828
Canadia

Fear and respect are not interchangeable.

9/27/2012 3:52:53 AM

#1451830


A relationship based on fear, either between spouses or between a deity, is a pretty pathetic relationship.

9/27/2012 3:55:01 AM

#1451850
Oh My Dog!

This is Stockholm Syndrome, Sunshine.

What is it with fundie women wanting to be in an abusive relationship?

9/27/2012 4:15:07 AM

#1451852
UHM

@ Oh My Dog!: It's called "being submissive". If these women were true to themselves, they'd know that's just a sexual kink. But then there's is religion, and religion don' like kinky.

9/27/2012 4:18:36 AM

#1451873
dionysus

If fear means the same thing as respect does that mean that you respect psychopaths with knives? Do you respect terrorists? Do you respect falling out of an airplane? Seriously, I've never understood the connection. I've also never understood why someone would want to worship a deity that they fear. Especially the unpredictable time bomb that is Yahweh.

9/27/2012 4:35:47 AM

#1451880
Leighton Buzzard

My wife and I respect each other just fine. We wouldn't dream of issuing orders to each other, though.

9/27/2012 4:41:13 AM

#1451881
Leighton Buzzard

Reading that through again, she seems to be calling for the legalisation of wife-beating. O.o.

9/27/2012 4:43:32 AM

#1451892
Lezemotu

Respect must be earned.

9/27/2012 4:53:22 AM

#1451907
anevilmeme

Coercion does not earn you respect, only contempt.

You don't have the emotional maturity to be in a relationship much less married.

9/27/2012 5:12:44 AM

#1451914
Doubting Thomas

Sorry, but I don't want to slap my wife around if she disagrees with me. I have too much respect for her and her love for me to hurt her with violence or even threats of violence. Maybe that's why we've been together for around 14 years.

9/27/2012 5:22:13 AM

#1451920
whatever

Man pretends to be a woman to make female submission look more acceptable, part 2856254658965.

9/27/2012 5:36:12 AM

#1451946
Dr.Shrinker

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."

- 1 John 4:18 (KJV)

I was going to say more, but your bible pretty much said it all for me.

9/27/2012 5:58:30 AM

#1451953
farpadokly

I wrote a poem on this topic, the refrain of which went:
Break the bread of doubt this day,
Give it to your disciples and say:
"We cannot love whom we must obey".

9/27/2012 6:04:05 AM

#1451961
Mister Spak

"I see no reason why he should not be able to use coercion just to the point of regaining control of the situation and his wife’s respect."

I see no reason why a woman should not be able to exercise her second amendment rights on her husband.

9/27/2012 6:09:41 AM

#1451963
whatever

@Dr. Shrinker
Your quote "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love" goes nicely with:

"Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom".

The contradiction of those two lines should be enough to implode the Christian doctrine.

9/27/2012 6:12:33 AM

#1451993


You realize we all know you're a man, right?

9/27/2012 6:45:54 AM

#1452009
Horsefeathers

"We must love God, but we must also fear (respect) Him."

Fear =/= respect.

Fear typically progresses to loathing, if anything.

9/27/2012 7:13:45 AM

#1452040
Thinking Allowed

Ok, let me see if I have this logic right.

God is love
Fear God
God is fear.

Oh yeah, it just makes me want to go out and want to be respectful (fearful) of God and my husband. Sorry, but OH HELL NO!

9/27/2012 8:23:17 AM

#1452044
fishtank

Probably the reason women hate you.

9/27/2012 8:30:25 AM

#1452058


While fear can be an efficient method of controlling a person or populace, it should not be mistaken for respect, nor for loyalty. Neither is it the basis of any truly loving, stable, healthy and happy relationship.

9/27/2012 8:52:17 AM

#1452071


Hello sunshinemary, I have here a time machine that we would all love you to use. It will transport you from the 1950s, where you seem to be stuck, to the present day, where men and women have equal rights and enjoy loving relationships built upon mutual trust and respect.

9/27/2012 9:06:31 AM

#1452086
Fundies Make Me Sick

Coercion doesn't inspire respect, it inspires fear and resentment.

9/27/2012 9:24:41 AM

#1452103
John_in_Oz

You should have stopped at "I see no reason."

9/27/2012 10:03:35 AM

#1452109


I think you confuse fear and respect.

My wife respected me but was not afraid of me.

Can you see the difference there ?

You don't gain respect by pushing someone around. Remember you have to slep sometime.


9/27/2012 10:14:43 AM

#1452114
Osiris

Fear is not the same as respect. A ruler who demands respect from fear is not worthy of respect.

9/27/2012 10:19:26 AM
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