Quote# 89786

I disagree with you.

We must love God, but we must also fear (respect) Him.

Women might love their husbands, but they have no fear of (respect for) them. The law neuters mens’ ability to maintain order in their own households. Preferably a man keeps order by inspiring love and obedience; if this does not work, I see no reason why he should not be able to use coercion just to the point of regaining control of the situation and his wife’s respect.

sunshinemary, Dalrock 51 Comments [9/27/2012 3:28:28 AM]
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Fear and respect are not interchangeable.

9/27/2012 3:52:53 AM

A relationship based on fear, either between spouses or between a deity, is a pretty pathetic relationship.

9/27/2012 3:55:01 AM

Oh My Dog!

This is Stockholm Syndrome, Sunshine.

What is it with fundie women wanting to be in an abusive relationship?

9/27/2012 4:15:07 AM


@ Oh My Dog!: It's called "being submissive". If these women were true to themselves, they'd know that's just a sexual kink. But then there's is religion, and religion don' like kinky.

9/27/2012 4:18:36 AM


If fear means the same thing as respect does that mean that you respect psychopaths with knives? Do you respect terrorists? Do you respect falling out of an airplane? Seriously, I've never understood the connection. I've also never understood why someone would want to worship a deity that they fear. Especially the unpredictable time bomb that is Yahweh.

9/27/2012 4:35:47 AM

Leighton Buzzard

My wife and I respect each other just fine. We wouldn't dream of issuing orders to each other, though.

9/27/2012 4:41:13 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Reading that through again, she seems to be calling for the legalisation of wife-beating. O.o.

9/27/2012 4:43:32 AM


Respect must be earned.

9/27/2012 4:53:22 AM


Coercion does not earn you respect, only contempt.

You don't have the emotional maturity to be in a relationship much less married.

9/27/2012 5:12:44 AM

Doubting Thomas

Sorry, but I don't want to slap my wife around if she disagrees with me. I have too much respect for her and her love for me to hurt her with violence or even threats of violence. Maybe that's why we've been together for around 14 years.

9/27/2012 5:22:13 AM


Man pretends to be a woman to make female submission look more acceptable, part 2856254658965.

9/27/2012 5:36:12 AM


"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."

- 1 John 4:18 (KJV)

I was going to say more, but your bible pretty much said it all for me.

9/27/2012 5:58:30 AM


I wrote a poem on this topic, the refrain of which went:
Break the bread of doubt this day,
Give it to your disciples and say:
"We cannot love whom we must obey".

9/27/2012 6:04:05 AM

Mister Spak

"I see no reason why he should not be able to use coercion just to the point of regaining control of the situation and his wife’s respect."

I see no reason why a woman should not be able to exercise her second amendment rights on her husband.

9/27/2012 6:09:41 AM


@Dr. Shrinker
Your quote "There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love" goes nicely with:

"Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom".

The contradiction of those two lines should be enough to implode the Christian doctrine.

9/27/2012 6:12:33 AM

You realize we all know you're a man, right?

9/27/2012 6:45:54 AM


"We must love God, but we must also fear (respect) Him."

Fear =/= respect.

Fear typically progresses to loathing, if anything.

9/27/2012 7:13:45 AM

Thinking Allowed

Ok, let me see if I have this logic right.

God is love
Fear God
God is fear.

Oh yeah, it just makes me want to go out and want to be respectful (fearful) of God and my husband. Sorry, but OH HELL NO!

9/27/2012 8:23:17 AM


Probably the reason women hate you.

9/27/2012 8:30:25 AM

While fear can be an efficient method of controlling a person or populace, it should not be mistaken for respect, nor for loyalty. Neither is it the basis of any truly loving, stable, healthy and happy relationship.

9/27/2012 8:52:17 AM

Hello sunshinemary, I have here a time machine that we would all love you to use. It will transport you from the 1950s, where you seem to be stuck, to the present day, where men and women have equal rights and enjoy loving relationships built upon mutual trust and respect.

9/27/2012 9:06:31 AM

Fundies Make Me Sick

Coercion doesn't inspire respect, it inspires fear and resentment.

9/27/2012 9:24:41 AM


You should have stopped at "I see no reason."

9/27/2012 10:03:35 AM

I think you confuse fear and respect.

My wife respected me but was not afraid of me.

Can you see the difference there ?

You don't gain respect by pushing someone around. Remember you have to slep sometime.

9/27/2012 10:14:43 AM


Fear is not the same as respect. A ruler who demands respect from fear is not worthy of respect.

9/27/2012 10:19:26 AM

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