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Doctors at Long Island’s North Shore Hospital say Grace Sung Eun Lee is competent and made her wishes clear. Woman's parents say removing her from life support would be suicide and condemn her to hell

She is paralyzed from the neck down, tethered to breathing and feeding tubes — but Manhattan bank manager Grace Sung Eun Lee still managed to mouth four words Wednesday.

“I want to die.”

Doctors are trying to honor Lee’s wish, but her devout parents believe that removing the tubes is suicide — a sin that would condemn the 28-year-old to hell.

They’ve gone to court to keep the terminally ill brain-cancer patient on life support, turning a heartbreaking family tragedy into a right-to-die legal battle.

The case has put medical ethics and religion on a collision course, with lawyers arguing in two courtrooms while the patient at the center of the fight can do little more than blink her eyes.

“The thought of her dying, my heart tremors, everything goes black,” Grace’s father, prominent Queens pastor the Rev. Manho Lee, pleaded to a judge.

Her mother, Jin-ah Lee, does not believe her always dutiful daughter has given up on life — or that her death is inevitable.

“Despite all this confusion, she wants to go to heaven,” she told the Daily News. “I keep telling her she can get better. God’s going to save you.”

The congregation at Antioch Missionary Church is praying for Grace, who mentored young people. The day after the Korea Times wrote about the case, a Korean church group took out an ad that declared: “Giving up life is not the will of God.”

Lee’s Korean immigrant parents say she is depressed and not in her right mind.

“We believe that our daughter is really heavily medicated and unable to make her own decisions,” her father said Wednesday.

But her doctors at Long Island’s North Shore Hospital say she’s competent and has made her wishes clear.

“She is very tearful when she thinks about dying, but she consistently asks that the breathing tube be removed and she begs us to do that,” Dr. Dana Lustbader, chief of palliative medicine at North Shore, testified at an emergency hearing last week.


Manho Lee and Jin-ah Lee, nydailynews.com 50 Comments [10/8/2012 3:47:43 AM]
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me

This time it's actually clear.what she wants.

10/8/2012 11:29:26 AM

John

"Giving up life is not the will of God."

What did God do for the billions of people who died before the human-developed life support technology existed?

@me: She was not in her right mind when she wanted to die, but now that she wants to live, she suddenly is! The old "you're nuts if you disagree with me" argument.

10/8/2012 12:00:45 PM

UHM

@John: I don't think me was disagreeing with what seems to be the consensus here.

10/8/2012 12:53:55 PM

John

@UHM: I understood that. I was just amplifying the thought.

10/8/2012 1:48:25 PM

checkmate

Up until about 200 years ago, invasive medicine was considered evil by christian churches. Medical advancements were mostly made against churches' will. Now that same kind of medicine seems to be God's will. Fascinating.

Evil, godless science is keeping the young woman alive.

If she were left as God (supposedly) created her, she'd have died a long time ago.

Breathing tubes would have kept Jesus alive on the cross for days on end. Oh joy!! Where were those tubes back then? Just Imagine, Christians could say "Jesus **really** suffered for our sins and he died on the cross -- eventually."

Nature takes it's course:


10/8/2012 1:58:53 PM

Old Viking

It's sinful to interfere. God's holy will is to extract the last scintilla of agony out of us.

10/8/2012 2:25:46 PM

farpadokly

Now says she wants to live! Could it be because of all this pressure?

10/8/2012 3:09:54 PM

dp

i would've thought that putting the breathing tube in there in the first place would not be god's will. her body can't keep itself alive anymore, that's god's will. how is giving up the fight against god's will suicide?

10/8/2012 3:10:16 PM

Zimmer

Do these people not think that their god, who supposedly died for the sins of mankind, wouldn't grant her a bit of leeway here?

Fundamentalists worship the Bible more than they worship their own god.

10/8/2012 4:02:31 PM



This will not have a happy ending, no matter what happens.

I wish christians would make up their minds though. Some say a breathing and feeding tube defy the will of God, others argue that removing life support is suicide.

If God really wants her dead ho should be able to arrange it , if their are no iron chariots involved .

Cancer in the brain stem is not promosong long term survival.

10/8/2012 4:07:01 PM

Renon

Or maybe God wants her to pass on, hence the cancer. Meaning the parents are interfering with God's work.

Damn, that hurt to even type. I feel like a dick now.

10/8/2012 7:35:25 PM

Canadia

I really feel awful over this, but I don't think they're doing this maliciously. It's misguided, with a dash of selfishness; but I'm sure it's only a reaction to the soul-crushing grief they're going through.

I'm glad I'm not having my willpower tested like they are, because it can't be easy to do the strong thing, and the right thing.

10/8/2012 10:13:35 PM

Pioneer

This is just terrible. Poor woman. :(

10/8/2012 11:14:10 PM

Sylvana

The hardest part of this story was reading the comments by the mother. While my brother was dying of cancer she was saying exactly the same thing. He was blind and bed ridden with tumors all over his body, but she kept saying that he will get better because she and everyone else was praying and god will save him. Unlike in this case the cancer killed him relatively quickly, but I know my mom would be doing the same thing. Seeing someone else in a similar position is heat-breaking. Watching someone in your family die of cancer is torture, but being the person with cancer must be unimaginably worse.

I just have no words to describe how sad this story makes me.

10/8/2012 11:48:45 PM

louislois

Stories like this always depress me...

10/9/2012 1:20:02 AM

michael3ov

“The thought of her dying, my heart tremors, everything goes black,"

And how does the thought of her suffering needlessly and horribly make you feel?

10/9/2012 3:56:59 AM

Dyz

"Lee’s Korean immigrant parents say she is depressed and not in her right mind."

Lee thinks her Korean immigrant parents are depressed and not in her right mind.

10/9/2012 5:00:48 AM

VioletBeauregarde

Suicide does NOT condemn people to Hell! She says that she wants to die, just let her die. She's in pain and wants to be put out of her misery...cruel bastards! They must have one heck of a lot of arrogance to assume that they know God's will!

10/9/2012 5:14:53 AM

UHM

@John: Sarcasm - there needs to be a meter for it. (I sure as hell need one)

10/9/2012 6:59:16 AM

Flah

“I keep telling her she can get better. God’s going to save you.”

She's paralyzed from the neck down and has an inoperable brain tumor. At some point, "better" loses any meaning.

Though, all in all, this is about parents who don't want to see their child die and are grasping at any straws that might keep her going. The above is the only snark that I can muster for this one.

10/9/2012 12:28:22 PM

Snarker

Poor thing, she suffers so much and her parents do nothing to help.

Wish I could just give her a hug and tell her everything is alright. I know it isn't but she needs someone to share some kindness with her, especially if her own parents won't.

10/9/2012 4:01:41 PM



Yeah as others have stated before, I don't really think that this one is fundie. I think the parents are just deeply in denial and while their religious beliefs are clearly reinforcing that denial its clearly not the primary motivator at work here. These people just really do not want to see their daughter die. A poor understanding of modern medicine is also clearly a factor.

10/9/2012 6:30:29 PM

Passerby

Nice to know everyone who ever dove on a grenade to save others, treated the infectious during a plaugue, ran into a burning building to save someone still inside, or shoved someone out of the way of an oncoming vehicle instead of dodging themselves and leaving the other person to their death is going directly to hell.

10/10/2012 4:32:53 PM

Miles

A tragedy-the poor woman dying a horrible slow death, her parents utterly insane.

This is totally fucked-up right here, people. She wants to die. She is an adult. Her parents should have no say in the matte.

10/15/2012 3:58:33 AM

CanadianBroad

Okay - I'm not a "moral" person. Not at all. To me, this was quite simple - Listen to the parents respectfully, and as soon as they leave, Grace gets her wishes followed. Period.

"She passed away some time during the night" is all they have to say to anyone.

I'm really angry about what these people are doing to this WOMAN (not a CHILD).

10/19/2012 11:32:52 AM
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