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#1456425
"professors barely make middle-class pay (serves them right)"
Yes, because teaching the new intellectual elite should not have upper class compensation. Only the worst students should become professors so that the remainder can serve as job creators that (barely) trickle down their upper class pay.
10/9/2012 4:15:04 AM
#1456427
Robespierre
In all industrialized countries, girls outperform boys in standardised tests. In most of them, the college enrollment ratio is higher for females than males. In the USA, females did first outnumber males in the late 1980s, mostly because male college enrollment is slightly more subject to the job market, and male college enrollment FELL in 1985-1988 amid good economic conditions (you can see the same, even more markedly, happening in Japan in the same years). It fell again in the late 1990s, for the same reasons.
10/9/2012 4:17:52 AM
#1456432
Filin De Blanc
Price once again can't acknowledge that it's his own fault women keep outperforming him. He is beyond pathetic.
10/9/2012 4:25:12 AM
#1456433
Swede
I don't understand: don't you do exams to then get grades depending on how well you perform on the exams? As a Swede, I'm not familiar with the US College admission system...
You're wrong, it was the earlier male preponderance that was entirely engineered. Once everyone is included on the same conditions, women outperform men in education in most part of the world.
10/9/2012 4:25:17 AM
#1456449
New Face of Rove
@Swede
Yeah i'm not sure I understand it either, in the UK we just have exams and coursework. Seems like in the states ALL of your work gets graded.
Not sure how I feel about that. It would have been next to impossible for me to maintain my educational focus for several years straight.
10/9/2012 4:48:30 AM
#1456457
Mister Spak
"professors barely make middle-class pay"
The extra millions for the Romney Rich has to come from somewhere.
10/9/2012 5:04:58 AM
#1456461
Doubting Thomas
Oh noes! Wimmins is gettin' smarts!
Kind of sucks for you and your fellow Spearhead idiots if women are intelligent, huh? You know, 'cuz you'll never, ever get a date.
10/9/2012 5:11:52 AM
#1456477
Ebon
You just resent people who are smarter than you.
10/9/2012 5:28:04 AM
#1456484
Reynardine
See here, Peterheaders, don't blame anyone else if you're stupid.
10/9/2012 5:33:33 AM
#1456507
Matlef
@Swede
maybe he means like entry exams for universities and such?
10/9/2012 6:13:21 AM
#1456516
dionysus
That’s exactly it. Here in the US they de-emphasized exams in the mid-late 80s. College admissions were previously 2/3rds exams and 1/3rd grades, and then it was reversed in one fell swoop.
Not sure if this is true but don't we WANT more emphasis on people that do their assignments on time and well? Given that in most jobs you can easily look up information that you need you'd think that an exam isn't the most realistic test of how people would do in the work force.
10/9/2012 6:22:51 AM
#1456530
UHM
So if you change the variables that the admission depend upon, the results change? Ehm, yeah. If that suprises you you might wanna get your head checked.
So women do better than you now? Cry me a fucking river.
10/9/2012 6:55:37 AM
#1456546
Tatsukun
Am I the only one who reads this and can just *see* a 5 year old boy stamping his feet about not getting a cookie when that GIRL got one?
LOL Freak
10/9/2012 7:16:06 AM
#1456550
Tatsukun
@Swede
I think he is talking about the SAT (big standard test you take before university) and High School grades.
10/9/2012 7:17:53 AM
#1456553
Dr.Shrinker
Yeah, No Child Left Behind has proven conclusively that standardized testing is the absolute best way of gauging a student's abilities.
10/9/2012 7:19:45 AM
#1456564
TheReasonator
@ dionysus,
It should depend on what the kid wants to do with their life. What about the job of being an academic? In that case since work tends to be intellectually demanding but tends to also have long deadlines the exam score should be more important.
10/9/2012 7:25:27 AM
#1456569
The Crimson Ghost
I wonder what this dumbshit's test scores were.
I'd be willing to bet $ that my bird is smarter than he is.
10/9/2012 7:33:08 AM
#1456591
J. James
Correlation does not imply causation.
10/9/2012 8:16:20 AM
#1456631
Anon
>>Professors barely make middle-class pay (serves them right).<<
No, it doesn't serve them right.
But what do you mean by "middle-class pay"? And what field do you refer to?
As a scientist, I can expect something a bit over 100,000 USD/year if I land a faculty job, depending on the place. That would put me at about the 80th percentile of the US income distribution.
Professors in other fields range widely in salary, from maybe 70kUSD/year for adjunct teaching faculty to 500kUSD/year for senior faculty who need to be well-paid to stop them from going off and defecting to industry.
The really underpaid educators in the US are high school and elementary teachers.
10/9/2012 10:05:52 AM
#1456637
Thinking Allowed
Did W(t)F Price even graduate the 8th grade?
10/9/2012 10:32:37 AM
#1456640
Zagen30
Regarding Swede's question:
He's talking about the difference between standardized tests and school grades. Most high school juniors/seniors take the SAT (which used to stand for Scholastic Aptitude/Assessment Test, but now is an empty acronym), which is supposed to be a rough measure of how well one is prepared for college. There's another test, the ACT, which serves a similar purpose and is used more by colleges in the midwest/south. Whichever the college uses (some will only accept one of the tests, though I believe most now will accept either), it's not the only thing they use in the admission process.
SAT scores and school grades don't always align. It's possible to be at a school that doesn't teach well but hands out high grades to their students, and in theory those kids might not do well on the SAT since they didn't actually learn the things they needed to. On the flip side, you could have a student who slacks off most of the year at school, getting poor grades, but studies hard for and does well on the SAT, and thus would look like a better overall student than s/he actually is if only the standardized score were used. The latter option isn't terribly uncommon, because there are numerous services for preparing students for the SAT. Knowing how to take it and knowing what sorts of questions come up frequently can boost one's scores a significant amount. And it's not unheard of for people to cheat on it or pay someone else to take it for them.
10/9/2012 10:48:20 AM
#1456647
breakerslion
And yet, The Shrub got into Yale.
What does that say about you, W.F.?
10/9/2012 11:06:49 AM
#1456690
farpadokly
Serves them right for being smart!
I do think that passing exams isn't necessarily an indication of intelligence. I know so many dumb people that managed to pass their exams.
10/9/2012 1:09:41 PM
#1456698
tracer
What's really tragic here is, not only do college professors barely make middle-class pay, high school and middle school teachers make even less.
And they wonder why the quality of American education has declined since the Space Race ended....
10/9/2012 1:30:55 PM
#1456715
Old Viking
W. F., baby,I feel your pain. Pass me a beer.
10/9/2012 2:06:50 PM
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