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I am tired of seeing the retreat of Christianity. It is sound Christian doctrine that has given us the great freedom and prosperity we enjoy. The United States was founded on sound Christian principles. The foundational principle is that man has a sin nature, and that law and government should be structured to harness man’s selfish nature for the good of society. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of a free nation. They limit and direct man’s behavior in a positive direction for the benefit of all. The proper role of government is to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. Our government punishes hard work and productivity, and rewards laziness. The foundation stones of a productive society are the commandments “thou shall not bear false witness” and “thou shall not steal”. When I was criticizing President Obama’s redistribution philosophy, a liberal friend once ask me, “Charlie, what would Jesus say”? I told her I knew exactly what Jesus would say. He would say “thou shall not steal”! If government punishes hard work, and rewards laziness, we will all have less. The Democrat philosophy is that we should cut the pie in equal tiny pieces for all to share. The Republican philosophy is that we should bake more pies.

There is a strange alliance between the liberal left and the Muslim religion. It may be that since both are the enemies of Christianity, that they both believe that, my enemy’s enemy is my friend. However there are several similarities between the two. Both are antichrist in that they both deny that Jesus is God in the flesh of man, and the savior of mankind. They both also hold that their cause should take over the entire world through violent, bloody, revolution. Both want to end freedom of speech so that their doctrine cannot be criticized. Neither can survive in a free marketplace of ideas. They both lack an understanding of the true nature of God. That is, that God wants us to freely choose to love, warship, and serve him because we understand that he loved us while we were in the unlovable state of complete rebellion to him. God does not want to force himself on anyone. Love for him must be a free choice. Both Communism and the Muslim religion want to deny man that choice.

Charles Fuqua, God's Law - The Only Political Solution 55 Comments [11/28/2012 8:32:10 AM]
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Doubting Thomas

sound Christian doctrine

This is one of those oxymoron things, right?

Our government punishes hard work and productivity, and rewards laziness.

Because that Jesus guy said to never pay your taxes or help out the poor.

11/28/2012 8:46:47 AM

Indicible

"It is sound Christian doctrine that has given us the great freedom and prosperity we enjoy."

Like what? Burn those that disagree with you?
Doctrine has nothing to do with freedom, it is even incompatible with freedom.

"The foundation stones of a productive society are the commandments “thou shall not bear false witness” and “thou shall not steal”."

Good. We are in agreement.
You quoted the acceptable ones. What do you make of all the others?
Because, let's face it, not having the choice of worship is a bit contradictory to that whole "freedom" thing you seem so hung up on.

11/28/2012 8:46:53 AM

The Crimson Ghost

I am thrilled to see the retreat of christianity. It needs to keep retreating & hopefully, one day, it will be relegated to the dustbin of failed human inventions.

11/28/2012 8:47:05 AM

Filin De Blanc

"They both also hold that their cause should take over the entire world through violent, bloody, revolution."

I'm sorry, Charlie "We Really Ought To Legalize Infanticide" Fucker is accusing other people of being violent?

11/28/2012 9:03:13 AM

Canuovea

Because Christianity has been a bastion of power hell bent at protecting the 'Free Market of Ideas' from those who wish to take choice away from others.

11/28/2012 9:17:47 AM

Titania

"The proper role of government is to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior." Yet it doesn't always.

"Our government punishes hard work and productivity, and rewards laziness." Yes, but not in the way you think it does. Protip: it's set up to financially reward the wealthy through the labor of those without wealth. Unless you are in the top 2%, you are one of their pawns. Now, get back to work.

11/28/2012 9:22:56 AM

Mister Spak

"There is a strange alliance between the liberal left and the Muslim religion."

Not to mention an imaginary alliance.

OTOH Islam is opposed to gay rights and evolution and they like to shoot big guns for fun just like you. There is a strange alliance between the conservative right and the Muslim religion.

11/28/2012 9:45:50 AM

Boadicea

"The Republican philosophy is that we should bake more pies."

For those who already have more pies than they and their descendents will eat EVER. But nary a bite for those who actually BAKE THE PIES.

The fail - it burns!

11/28/2012 10:12:12 AM

VioletBeauregarde

"F**k the Poor!"
EDIT: More like "Fuqua the poor!"
About Fuquad's complaint about "violence"...hypocrite, much?

11/28/2012 10:19:46 AM

Leighton Buzzard

Show me the bit in the Constitution about not coveting oxen, again?

11/28/2012 10:26:55 AM

Frostythesnowman

Fuqua is the fucker who advocates stoning children to death isn't he? With that in mind, he'll have to come up with something a lot better than the usual Liberal/Muslim/Communist conspiracy crap before I suspend my belief that he's utterly insane.

11/28/2012 10:34:04 AM

Reynardine

Oh, yeah, Charles Mofuqua. The one who believes in throwing your disobedient children to a lynch mob.

11/28/2012 10:37:20 AM

Anon-e-moose

"There is a strange alliance between the liberal left and the Muslim religion"

Speaking as a left-wing Atheist, I'm buggered if I've seen any examples of such. I've yet to see, say, the periodicals "The Socialist Worker" and "The Muslim Weekly" doing combined editions; and name me just one left-wing Atheist who is collaborating with an Al-Qaeda cell here in the UK, if you can...?

...thought not. Fuqua you then, Chuck, and the insane fundie horse you rode in on.

11/28/2012 10:39:35 AM

Sasha

God wants us to freely choose to love, warship, and serve him

Otherwise he'll throw us into the Lake O' Fire to burn for eternity. Not what I call "free choice."

Also, "warship"? Slip of the tongue there, Charlie?

11/28/2012 11:00:11 AM

mattiedef

And islam doesnt allow forceful conversion.

I think your confused charles "kill the poor and rebellious" fuqua.

11/28/2012 11:13:26 AM

JSS

["The Ten Commandments are the foundation of a free nation."]

First Commandment: And God spake all these words, saying, I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


That is all.

["The proper role of government is to reward good behavior and punish bad behavior."]

So wait, all that 'less government', 'don't tread on me' type of jargon is a lie? People have already sunk costs into creating signs for this cause! We can't just spend more money because people like you want to change your mind.

["God does not want to force himself on anyone."]

Yet anyone who doesn't believe will burn in hell for all eternity.

Again, that is all.

11/28/2012 11:13:48 AM

JohnTheAtheist

Every word drips with fail.

It is funny that the Constitution, the foundational document of the United States fails to mention that the country was founded on christian principles. That is one hell of an oversight.

As for the rest of the god bullshit...well it is good to know that Charles and his ilk are the ones that have correctly interpreted the ancient manuscripts and have determined the true nature of god.

11/28/2012 11:24:11 AM



“thou shall not bear false witness”

"I told her I knew exactly what Jesus would say. He would say “thou shall not steal”!"

Need i say more?

11/28/2012 11:38:07 AM

Hasan Prishtina

"The Ten Commandments are the foundation of a free nation"

Interesting. I didn't know that Savonarola's Florence, Cromwell's England, Franco's Spain, Tiso's Slovakia or Salazar's Portugal were free nations.

"When I was criticizing President Obama’s redistribution philosophy, a liberal friend once ask me, “Charlie, what would Jesus say”? I told her I knew exactly what Jesus would say. He would say “thou shall not steal”!"

Except that Jesus actually did say "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's."

"The Democrat philosophy is that we should cut the pie in equal tiny pieces for all to share. The Republican philosophy is that we should bake more pies."

Can you show me that in either party platform? I'd also be interested in the date of the last violent liberal revolution that didn't produce a free press and democracy and the date of the last conservative revolution that did.

"warship"

Freudian slip?

"God does not want to force himself on anyone."

On the understanding, of course, that you will face annihilation and eternal hellfire if you don't accept. How again is this different from Islam?

11/28/2012 11:38:38 AM

Hasan Prishtina

Charles Fuqua may not have noticed that the Bible requires payments in the form of tithes and gifts to the poor and the temple, i.e. social security and the state, well in excess of the 10% usually quoted. Perhaps he believes the Bible punishes hard work and productivity.

11/28/2012 11:41:10 AM

Nyarlathotep

The United States was founded on sound Christian principles. The foundational principle is that man has a sin nature, and that law and government should be structured to harness man’s selfish nature for the good of society. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of a free nation.

Is that why the Constitution specifically guarantees separation of Church and State and freedom of religion? And why there's not even mention of Christianity in the Constitution? And why Thomas Jefferson said, and I quote, "Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law"?

The foundation stones of a productive society are the commandments “thou shall not bear false witness”

You mean like how Fundies keep going on about how Obama's a secret foreign Muslim guys and here's proof (not (ever) shown: proof)? Or all of those "Ex-Witch/Atheist/Satanist/Muslim/Homosexual/Etc." folks who go on to make up ridiculous, demonstrably false things and claim to have seen/done them first-hand?

and “thou shall not steal”.

But doesn't almost every society frown on theft, regardless of the society's religion?

There is a strange alliance between the liberal left and the Muslim religion. It may be that since both are the enemies of Christianity, that they both believe that, my enemy’s enemy is my friend.

But they're not though. They're just the enemy of fundie idiots, like any normal person should be.

Both are antichrist in that they both deny that Jesus is God in the flesh of man, and the savior of mankind.

You mean like the Jews who, unlike the Muslims who consider him one of the Prophets, don't even think Jesus was particularly important?

They both also hold that their cause should take over the entire world through violent, bloody, revolution.

You mean like how Rush Limbaugh and Faux News Conservatives keep suggesting violent, bloody revolution?

Both want to end freedom of speech so that their doctrine cannot be criticized.

You mean like how Christian fundies scream oppression whenever society doesn't specifically cater to their religion?

That is, that God wants us to freely choose to love, warship, and serve him because we understand that he loved us while we were in the unlovable state of complete rebellion to him.

Is that why your God punishes anyone who doesn't worship Him with death and eternal torture? And why He routinely ordered mass killings in the Old Testament? And why He flooded the Earth? And in general acted like a psychotic monster throughout the OT? Because he... loves humanity? I assume he loves us the same way the woman from Misery loved that author...

Also you misspelled "worship".

God does not want to force himself on anyone. Love for him must be a free choice.

You mean like how He didn't demand any acts of violence against the Canaanites or the Midianites? Or really anyone who didn't worship Him? I'm sorry, but your God is kinda sending some mixed messages. Also you are aware that Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God, right?

Both Communism and the Muslim religion want to deny man that choice.

The only one who wants to deny people choices is you and your ilk, I think. Also FFS it's called Islam, not "the Muslim religion".

11/28/2012 11:52:42 AM

pete

The short answer is? No. Just no.

11/28/2012 12:03:21 PM

xyz

> The Republican philosophy is that we should bake more pies.
Correction: The Republican philosophy is that people who didn't get their piece of pie can just go crawl into a hole and die. (Hey, that rhymes.)

> There is a strange alliance between the liberal left and the Muslim religion. It may be that since both are the enemies of Christianity, that they both believe that, my enemy’s enemy is my friend.
No, there is no such thing. If you are talking about radical Muslims, they hate atheists and/or liberals just like you. Likewise, us atheists as well as liberal religious people don't really get along with fundamentalist Muslims any more than we do with fundamentalist Christians.

> However there are several similarities between the two. Both are antichrist in that they both deny that Jesus is God in the flesh of man, and the savior of mankind.
That is where the similarities end. Everything else is just meaningless bullshitting. However, there are a couple more points I must make:

> God does not want to force himself on anyone. Love for him must be a free choice.
Oh, the irony.

> Both Communism and the Muslim religion want to deny man that choice.
Communism (an economic/government system, not a religion) does not represent the majority of atheists. Radical Islam does not represent the majority of Muslims. Do not confuse the sane religious/atheistic people with terrorists. It's only fair, since most atheists have the courtesy to not conflate Christofacists with the reasonably sane Christians.

11/28/2012 12:17:33 PM

John

The Democrat philosophy is that we should cut the pie in equal tiny pieces for all to share. The Republican philosophy is that we should bake more pies.

Everyone agrees that baking more pies is a good idea. Unfortunately, neither the Republicans nor the Democrats have any good ideas about how to do that, since it has almost nothing to do with government actions, good or bad. The difference is in what should happen after the pies are baked. One says the ones who actually baked the pies should get a fair share of them, while the other claims they should get 1% of them with the other 99% going to the guy who supplied the oven.

God does not want to force himself on anyone. Love for him must be a free choice.

... but if you choose wrong you spend an eternity in Hell? Some free choice. That's like a mugger pointing a .45 at you and saying "it's your free choice to hand over your wallet; but if you don't, I'm gonna blow your f'kin head off."

11/28/2012 12:17:44 PM

UHM

"Neither can survive in a free marketplace of ideas."
So explain to mewhy from the 46 free countries and 24 partly free countries listed in the Freedom of the World report all vote for politicians and parties that are economicaly left from the Republican party? Why, in all but one of the industrialized free countries around the world, dismantling social welfare is political suicide? Are all of these countries not really free or might you just be wrong?
Is it possible that almost a billion people around the world that haven't been brainwashed by Fox News, the Republican Party and their brain dead priests simply know better than the roughly 60 million that voted Romney? Which is more probable, over 1 billion people brainwashed or 60 million?

"Muslim religion"
Why not just say "Islam"? Is that a forbidden word or something?

11/28/2012 1:31:33 PM
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