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You cannot legislate morality. I have heard that phrase repeated often throughout my lifetime. It must be true. Lennon, the founder of Russian Communism, said that if you tell a lie loud enough and often enough people will believe it. I recently came across a Christian minister who repeated that phrase to me and expressed that he believed it was true. How have we gotten so confused? Is it immoral to shop lift? If we cannot legislate morality, does that mean we cannot have a law that makes shoplifting illegal? If our laws are not based on moral principles they are of no value. Most laws do in fact legislate morality. If a law does not legislate morality the law is unnecessary. Do we really believe that the God of the Bible is the creator of the universe, and the creator of man? If so, doesn’t it stand to reason that we should look to our creator for moral guidance?

Charles Fuqua, God's Law - The Only Political Solution 73 Comments [10/10/2012 3:34:14 AM]
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fishtank

Someone failed grade school.

10/10/2012 7:57:20 AM

Robespierre

The quote has been, rather dubiously, attributed to Lenin, but it probably comes from either Goebbels or Hitler and the same point is expressed in Mein Kampf, with much projection(later, Goebbels of all people attributed the "big lie" practice to Churchill).

10/10/2012 8:11:45 AM

Anon

Is that so in printed copies of Fuqua's tract? If so, he really needs a better editor.

10/10/2012 8:48:04 AM

checkmate

if you tell a lie loud enough and often enough people will believe it

You mean like this?:



"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."

I'm sure there are a few die-hard Republicans who still believe him.

10/10/2012 8:57:05 AM

Anon-e-moose

"Lennon, the founder of Russian Communism"

(*sings*):

'You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We'd all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We'd all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be alright

You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We'd all want to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're all doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you'll have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be alright

You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We'd all love to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know know it's gonna be alright'



Oh no more, please Mr. Wilde, I am bereft of ribs!

--EDIT--

@Frank

"Lennon, the founder of Russian Communism"

Not to mention Paul McCarthy who founded "McCarthyism"

Ringo Stalin who founded "Stalinism"

George never took much interest in politics."



=^_^= X3

10/10/2012 8:59:47 AM

KittyKaboom

Lenin, Dumbfuqua.

10/10/2012 9:03:03 AM

Frank

"Lennon, the founder of Russian Communism"

Not to mention Paul McCarthy who founded "McCarthyism"

Ringo Stalin who founded "Stalinism"

George never took much interest in politics.




10/10/2012 9:15:08 AM

nazani14

This is the same creep who wants to make it legal to kill your kids if they're rebellious:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/

10/10/2012 9:56:01 AM

Ludd

Damn you Comrade John Lennon!

10/10/2012 10:57:49 AM

Mattiedef

I want to create a robot of Stalin's likeness to go murder some of these people. But that would be unethical.

Why Stalin? Because he would love to do that kind of thing, I bet.

10/10/2012 12:04:47 PM

Amanda

Are you sure? I thought he said "Give peace a chance."

10/10/2012 12:20:45 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

@Frank

Pretty sure George Harrison was the 9th President of the United States, famous for saying, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

10/10/2012 1:16:02 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

STFU Charles


10/10/2012 1:28:33 PM

Old Viking

You're confused. The God of the Bible didn't create the universe, he created genocide.

10/10/2012 2:46:04 PM

farpadokly

You're thinking of Lennon, the founder of Scouse Fabbism, who said "I am the Walrus, goo goo ga joob".
You'd think these people would use a simple thing called "google" to see a, how to spell "Lenin" and b, who actually said that.

10/10/2012 3:09:48 PM

farpadokly

Interestingly, this argument isn't much questioned: "...God of the Bible is the creator of the universe, and the creator of man... If so, doesn't it stand to reason that we should look to our creator for moral guidance?"
No, that actually doesn't necessarily follow.
@D Laurier: Paul played bass.

10/10/2012 3:13:18 PM

Alencon

"Lennon?" That's just too funny.

@Protagonist - Actually laws don't legislate morality. They regulate injury. Typically things are illegal not because they are immoral but because they cause physical or financial injury to someone other than the person performing the act.

There are exceptions of course but if you think about it most of those exceptions, laws against prostitution, receational drugs and prohibition, are failures.

"You cannot legislate morality" really means you cannot legislate morality that doesn't protect against some associated injury.

The strongest argument to my mind against abortion access is that it causes injury to the fetus.

I don't agree with the argument, I still say the decision resides with the woman and her advisors, but it is the strongest argument.

10/10/2012 4:10:09 PM

Ebon

Lennon, the founder of Russian Communism, said that if you tell a lie loud enough and often enough people will believe it.

1) You're thinking of Lenin and he didn't found Russian Communism either.
2) Lenin didn't say that. It was said by Goebbels.

10/10/2012 6:20:57 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

Srsly if I didn't know Charles DaFuq was deadly serious about this I'd say he was trolling us. But this is still fun so whatever.










10/10/2012 6:46:08 PM

Tempus

@Rabbit of Caerbannog:



Whycome Spider Man doesn't just shoot Joker?

10/10/2012 7:03:02 PM

Reckoner

Our laws legislate property and human rights, not morality.

10/10/2012 7:25:33 PM

John

It depends on your definition of "morality". What people mean when they say "you cannot legislate morality" is that you cannot legislate the kinds of things the Bible tries to legislate: peoples' private sex lives, what they eat, how they dress, what movies or music they enjoy, etc. No one seriously suggests you can't have laws against theft, rape, fraud, murder or other things that inflict harm on other people.

10/10/2012 7:40:45 PM

JSS

We legislate laws based on protecting the individual rights to life, liberty and property. That's the cornerstone of libertarianism. Any action that doesn't fall under a violation of any of those rights, regardless of whether or not it is deemed 'immoral', cannot be regulated against or made illegal in a truly free society.

So yes, we do legalize morality to an extent, however this doesn't give an excuse to make anything illegal simply because you or your religion believes it's 'immoral'. The idea that you hold the God of the Bible to be some kind of moral law giver is a religious one, and not to be forced upon an entire free society.

10/10/2012 7:48:32 PM

Sen

@Mike Litoris

That's fantastic

10/10/2012 8:08:14 PM

Frostythesnowman

But Lennon also said " I am the egg man, I am the walrus", so who knows what to believe?

10/10/2012 9:47:00 PM
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