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The Title and Subtitle of what was put on the Progressive Website read, "Meet a Romney Extremist in Virginia - A staffer in a Romney campaign office wants to execute parents on welfare and give their kids up for adoption."

I did not say that I wanted to execute parents on welfare and give their kids up for adoption.

I said that it would be better to execute the parents of an illegitimate child and put their child up for adoption.


Does it bother you that Progressives have to intentionally lie to make their positions look good? Could that intentional lie be a bases for a deformation of character law suit?

Clifford Russell, Think Progress 80 Comments [11/8/2012 12:29:12 PM]
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Old Viking

Deformation of character? Your deformed character is congenital.

11/8/2012 12:34:17 PM

Mudak

Just like Richard Mourdock's statement that a fetus conceived in a rape is god's will, isn't a statement that the rape itself is god's will.

11/8/2012 12:37:06 PM

freako104

Um... you defirmed your own character by fucking saying that Clifford. Your position was already shitty

11/8/2012 12:40:48 PM

Filin De Blanc

"Does it bother you that Progressives have to intentionally lie to make their positions look good?"

Yeah, I'm sure now that the truth has come out, people will be flocking to render children orphans for the crime of having been born out of wedlock.

11/8/2012 12:41:01 PM

Swede

OK, it wasn't the EXACT same words you had used, but it was in the same spirit. That's not a lie, that's a misunderstanding, at most. You deformed your own character perfectly fine on your own, Cliffy.

11/8/2012 12:48:53 PM

TB Tabby

Does it bother you, sir, that your actual position isn't really any better?!

11/8/2012 12:50:36 PM

VioletBeauregarde

Oh...you want to execute parents of "illegitimate" children and give the kids up to adoption. My mistake. What you want to do is *so* much better than executing parents on welfare and giving their children up for adoption...*rolls eyes*

11/8/2012 12:53:04 PM

Frank

"I did not say that I wanted to execute parents on welfare and give their kids up for adoption.

I said that it would be better to execute the parents of an illegitimate child and put their child up for adoption."

Well I'm glad you cleared that up. For a moment there I thought you were being unreasonable.

11/8/2012 12:55:41 PM

OhJohnNo

You still want to fucking kill people.

11/8/2012 1:13:49 PM

Anon

Defamation of character covers both libel and slander. In both cases, Russell would have to provide financial or personal damage from the defamation.

But he's saying parents who have children out of wedlock should be executed. He already confesses to being a monster. No defamation here.

11/8/2012 1:20:17 PM



First you'd have to have a lie to sue over, and a minor misstatement of the exact quote that doesn't distort the intent of what the nutjob said doesn't count.

11/8/2012 1:24:10 PM

Sheridan

Admit it Clifford, even though you didn't say you wanted to execute them, you know you actually do.

The Progressives got it right despite the misquote.

The word you're want is "defamation" and you did it to your own character with that little gem.

11/8/2012 1:25:10 PM

VioletBeauregarde

How much do you want to bet that this prick is "pro-life"?

11/8/2012 1:25:50 PM

J. James

Does it bother you that Progressives have to intentionally lie to make their positions look good?

Are you FUCKING kidding me?! Progressives are not the bothersome thing here, it's the genocide!

What you're saying is basically the equivalent of, "Do these Jews have no decency? I have a migraine and they keep screaming as I shovel them into the incinerator. What uncouth barbarians! Don't they even care about MY feelings?"

11/8/2012 1:30:43 PM

tracer

"No no no, you've got me all wrong! I don't think blacks should die, I think Jews should die! Sheesh!"

11/8/2012 1:44:55 PM

UHM

If every non-conservative who was libeled by some conservative media would sue, the courts would be a 24/7 institution and "unemployed lawyer" would be an oxymoron.

11/8/2012 1:49:48 PM

shykid

"I did not say that I wanted to execute parents on welfare and give their kids up for adoption."

As far as I can tell, there is no evidence to suggest what you actually believe was misconstrued there.

"I said that it would be better to execute the parents of an illegitimate child and put their child up for adoption."

Yeah, ok, like that's much better and totally not offensive. The fact you even thought that anyone would find that to be more reasonable pretty much proves my point.

11/8/2012 2:10:00 PM

ea

I don't think I have ever seen such an extreme example of Completely. Missing. The. Point.

11/8/2012 2:16:37 PM

Rabbit of Caerbannog

Oh well now that that's been cleared up...

11/8/2012 2:23:57 PM

New Face of Rev

@VioletBeauregarde

Oh yes he is, from the same "Rebuttal":

"Abortion represents the killing of the only innocent person associated with the adultery or fornication that has occurred."

And apparantly the reason he wants to execute the parents of illigitimate children is because those kids will end up on welfare and therefore vote Democrat.

11/8/2012 2:29:28 PM

Thinking Allowed

Six of one, half dozed of the other.

11/8/2012 2:30:59 PM

New Face of Rev

Another fucking gem:

"Poverty is not proof of sin, but sin should be considered when there is poverty."

I thought the official Republican line was that they didn't hate poor people?

11/8/2012 2:32:52 PM

nazani14

"it would be better to execute the parents of an illegitimate child "
Better than what?

We can't go back in time and take out Grover Cleveland or Strom Thurmond, but there's still time to knock off Vito Fossella (R, NYC) and Arnold Schwartzenegger. Go for it.

11/8/2012 2:39:22 PM

BrianX

I fail to see a way that doesn't actually make him look worse.

11/8/2012 2:48:55 PM

TheLastCenturion

you even misrepresented what he said you said.

you spent half a rant describing how poor people who need welfare and have children are "illegitimate families". you call the children of illegitimate families illegitimate children.

keeping this in mind, saying "i think the children of parents on welfare should put up for adoption and the parents executed" =
"it would be better to execute the parents of an illegitimate child and put their child up for adoption."

11/8/2012 2:52:14 PM
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