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This is why astronomers would benefit from being spiritually intent.

If advanced tech came to us, and everything was “solved,” this would free us up to tackle the truths that are yet more subtle than the Higgs boson.

The existential challenge is to recognize that “knowledge of physicality,” is not total knowledge. Not even close…..and perhaps not actual knowledge in the least.

The silence of the singularity can be sussed out. That which math and physics cannot measure are yet actual.

Non-sense, yes, but not no-sense. There are truths that cannot be expressed but which are knowable. Ask Godel.

Logic can’t get to everywhere.

If an advance society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!


Edg Duveyoung, Centauri-Dreams 42 Comments [10/14/2012 3:40:45 AM]
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MK

If a truth cannot be expressed, then how can you know what it is? As soon as you can start to tell me what truth can be known without being expressed, you're expressing it.

So yes, it is no-sense and nonsense.

10/14/2012 4:18:04 AM

smartz

Looks like logic can't get into Edg's mind. If an advanced society even thought of coming to this backwater planet, God would be the last thing on anyone's mind.

10/14/2012 4:38:52 AM

whatever

"The silence of the singularity can be sussed out. That which math and physics cannot measure are yet actual.

Non-sense, yes, but not no-sense. There are truths that cannot be expressed but which are knowable. Ask Godel."

Short but intensely word salady. Kind of like a bag of extra strong wild rocket.

10/14/2012 4:39:43 AM

farpadokly

This is fair enough until it gets to the last sentence. In fact, the whole of what proceeds it makes better sense if one starts from an atheistic point.

10/14/2012 4:53:12 AM

quinky

OMG that is totally not what Gödel said. He showed that in any axiomatic system of math large enough to handle the natural numbers, there will be expressions that have no truth value, i.e. which can be added (as either true or false) as a new axiom without breaking the math. This means that there is no "complete" axiomatic basis in math, ever.

Compare and contrast to the horseshit you just said.

10/14/2012 4:55:31 AM



Logic certainly didn't get to you...

10/14/2012 5:07:11 AM

UHM

Amateurish idealism infused with fundie talk. Hadn't seen that before.

10/14/2012 5:21:13 AM

Filin De Blanc

"If an advance society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!"

"God hates Vulcans!"

These people will just direct their hatred at newer and newer targets as society progresses.

10/14/2012 5:39:29 AM

ScrappyB

Waiter, my word salad is a bit too heavy on the nuts.

10/14/2012 5:48:27 AM

gravematter

Someone's been listening to Deepak Chopra again.

10/14/2012 6:01:14 AM

John_in_Oz

If an advanced society comes and IS speaking about God, run faster!

10/14/2012 6:33:12 AM

Dr.Shrinker

"If an advance society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!"

- You mean an advanced society like the conquistadors? They talked about god like they actually knew it. Nothing scary about them, was there?

10/14/2012 6:35:47 AM

Justanotheratheist

Insalata di parole.

(That's Italian for word salad, in case you were wondering).

10/14/2012 6:59:25 AM

Papabear

Huh? I recognize the words as English, but what you're on about escapes me.

10/14/2012 7:25:48 AM

Mayhem

"If an advance society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!"

I would run.... straight to them to give a big hug!

10/14/2012 7:58:00 AM

Raised by Horses

"This is why astronomers would benefit from being spiritually intent."

The first astronomers probably were. You can probably see where this is going.

"If an advanced society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!"

If they come bearing cookbooks and giant foreheads, RUN FASTER!

10/14/2012 8:32:00 AM

Amadaun

If they come talking about God in familiar terms, they are almost definitely lying to us to gain trust, after monitoring our culture for a while. Which means they're hiding something and attempting manipulation. Which makes them way scarier than just being powerful and alien can achieve.

10/14/2012 8:35:44 AM



If an advance society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!

If they're speaking about god, they won't be very advanced.

10/14/2012 8:37:46 AM

Michael

"Logic can't get to everywhere" But without logic and critical thinking to develop understandings of the world and the way it works, you're left with making shit up...

10/14/2012 9:16:31 AM

Amadan

Time Cube!

10/14/2012 9:27:52 AM

Anon

@quinky:

Well said.

10/14/2012 9:41:01 AM

Ebon

Wha...?

10/14/2012 10:04:16 AM

Doubting Thomas

If an advance society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!

If an advanced society comes to us and IS speaking about God, then RUN! My biggest fear is bible bangers from outer space.

10/14/2012 10:22:20 AM

Anon-e-moose

"If an advance society comes to us and is not speaking about God, then RUN!"

Considering "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "2010", then your God had better RUN!

And 'Edg(y)' here had better not watch the film "Prometheus" then, if he knows what's good for him. Genesis of the Xenomorph. One word: Engineers.

10/14/2012 10:29:15 AM

Sasha

Pretending that fairy dust is more important than science. Pathetic.

10/14/2012 10:30:50 AM
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