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The Bible makes clear predictions, and there has never been a case when one of its prophecies has not come to pass. The Good Book has been so successful at foretelling the future, I believe people who scoff at it are making a "Sucker's Bet." They fail to realize that 87 percent of end-time prophecy is already in an advanced state of fulfillment.

The accurate prediction of the rebirth of Israel is Bible prophecy’s most stunning achievement. The Word of God also said that China would rise to be a world power; Europe would form a single government; the world would someday have a globally integrated financial market; and that there would be a diplomatic struggle (which we’re seeing today) over who should control Jerusalem.

There is no need for blind faith in what God has said in His Holy Word. I trust in the Bible because it has proven itself through prophecy.



Todd Strandberg, rapture ready 113 Comments [10/14/2012 4:57:26 AM]
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louislois

@ Tard4life

"Louislois, the beach is nice, but the city itself looks like a fucking dump. Who would want to live there?"

That's saying something, for someone who claims to come from Michigan, the the most economically depressed and derelict state in America's rustbelt...

10/14/2012 10:17:13 PM

Pule Thamex

If the Bible predicts flying er...soon, and it doesn't happen, then the Bible will be clearly proven to be totally unreliable.

Wait, any day now, just you watch, it will be I tell you, keep looking, any day now, the Bible will be proven to be reliable, er...soon.

10/14/2012 11:42:08 PM

michael3ov

Yeah yeah so did Nostradamus.

You would think that the creator of the universe could inspire prophecies that were slightly more clear for his followers instead of cryptic references and phrases that allow for rampant post hoc rationalizations. Rationalizations which allow his followers to make the dubious claim that 87 percent of end time prophecies are in progress or fulfilled.

Now shut up and go away.


10/15/2012 3:18:11 AM

Mister Spak

"They fail to realize that 87 percent of end-time prophecy is already in an advanced state of fulfillment. "

That claim was made about 130 years ago. Did someone hit gods pause button?

@his4lif4:
"My understanding is that the prophecy against Tyre specifically applies to Satan, and not to the literal, earthly city."

Your understanding is based on brainwashing applied by a con man trying to make you think a bible prophesy came true when it in fact it did not. The supposed infallibility of the bible must be supported at all costs, else how are con men going to convince people is was produced by a giant man who lives tn clouds. Thus arbitrary meanings are assigned to words to make them prophesies "true".

10/15/2012 5:45:54 AM

Noneofyourbusiness

It's a matter of historical fact that the Book of Revelation wasn't meant to be a prophecy at all. The ignorance, it burns.

10/15/2012 8:46:00 AM

freako104

Jesus was to return in the time of his disciples and Tyre. You and your Bible fail

10/15/2012 8:52:48 AM

Anon-e-moose

Oh look who - with selective amnesia - has deigned to return with her Attention Whoring; who seems to have forgotten about what I warned would happen if she dared do so again, and not leave FSTDT permanently:



Especially after abandoning these previous threads (and thus - via omission, as per the debate rules in a certain flowchart - admitting that we Atheists are always right in everything we say, and she & everything she says/does/thinks/'belives' is wrong in perpetuity. By her omission, she admits it):

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=89789&Page=3

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=89561&Page=2

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=89597&Page=2

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=89336&Page=3

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=89878&Page=3

Basically creating drama, and not contributing constructively to discussions. But when there's a thread based on a direct quote by her, then does she dare appear there to justify her BS? Does she, my left bollock!.

You, a 'Christian'? I've worked with Christians. I know Christians. My best friend is a Christian. Dearie, you're no Christian. [/Lloyd Bentsen]

'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

-Mohandas K. 'Mahatma' Gandhi

You are an Attention Whore. Nothing more. And this message will appear whenever you dare infect this place with your inferior presence again, you proven troll.

10/15/2012 9:38:08 AM

JohnTheAtheist

When the authors of the bible made references to the "world" they didnt even know that the America's existed. You would think that the almighty might have included something about that in there. Or the internet. Why no mention of the internet. If the bible made reference to the coming glorious age of internet porn I would have been more impressed.

10/15/2012 9:52:29 AM

Anon-e-moose

@checkmate

"87 percent of end-time prophecy is already in an advanced state of fulfillment.

87%? Not 86%? or 88%?

Are you sure?"

'87.2% of statistics are made up on the spot'

-Vic Reeves

Troll/Attention Whore/Nuts4Life? You Lying Get! [/The Living Carpets] X3

10/15/2012 10:05:07 AM

JSS

Yeah. I think it's a little interesting how you don't include books chapters and verses for everything claimed in that second paragraph.

10/15/2012 2:34:37 PM

Often Partisan

"the world would someday have a globally integrated financial market"

I don't see where this prediction is made in the bible. Unless you mean the Bible of the working class. Commie. ;)

10/15/2012 2:45:45 PM

Canuovea

His4Life,

If memory serves...

Antiochus the 4th or some other number. Was supposed to die in front of the gates of Jerusalem, but instead he ended up dying somewhere in Persia while raiding a Persian temple.

The book of Daniel looks convincingly like it was written at the time it was "discouvered" and used as a prophesy from that point. It was a common practice back then, apparently.

For instance, it pretends to have predicted the fall of Jerusalem and the Hebrew nation to the Babylonians... but it actually got the date wrong. It claimed the city was captured by the Babylonians during the reign of one Hebrew king, but instead it was captured during the reign of that king's son. And, to be clear, that information is given in another book of the Old Testament as record. There was an earlier attack, but I think it was beaten back.

10/15/2012 5:47:23 PM

His4Life

Louislois, so you assume that because I'm black, I must be from inner city detroit? You've obvioulsy never been to Michigan. It has many beautiful suburbs and small communities, and I happen to live in an affluent neighborhood.

10/15/2012 5:49:00 PM

Canuovea

Anon-e-moose,

If not bothering to come back to the same old topic means his4Life lost those debates... then you've lost some as well.

Not that I disagree with you in sentiment, well, most of the time, but...

Also, if His4Life is a troll... this is, all of it, just troll feeding.

10/15/2012 5:50:30 PM

Dr.Shrinker

@ His4Life

"Louislois, so you assume that because I'm black..."

I for one don't believe anything you claim anymore. I have no more reason to believe you are black than to believe, oh I don't know, that Jesus makes guest appearances at your church

10/15/2012 7:08:13 PM

Mike Litoris

My favorite biblical prophecy is the one that predicts jesus would swallow a piece of a puzzle, and the man in the yellow hat would have to rush him to the hospital.

10/15/2012 9:22:25 PM

Anon-e-moose

Dr.Shrinker (emphasis added)

"I for one don't believe anything you claim anymore. I have no more reason to believe you are black than to believe, oh I don't know, that Jesus makes guest appearances at t your church



Ali G. Borat. Brüno. A black man, Anti-Semite, and Gay man, respectively.

With his One Schtick Pony, isn't Sacha Baron Cohen afraid of (and not just everyone knowing who he is, and what he does, thus losing the basis of his material) becoming another Peter Sellers? And - psychologically - he ultimately didn't know who he was.

Law Of Diminishing Returns. Same goes for personal credibility. Keep grating* on people, you lose it. Just as 'she' did ages ago.

*- Dom Joly. Because he simply wasn't getting the reactions from the British public he was wanting - with his people in fursuits fighting, and shouting into a huge mobile phone etc - in his 'Candid Camera'-esque Tv series "Trigger Happy TV", he had to take it Stateside. Humour? About as funny as (P)Ricky Gervais, and his example of Emperor's New Clothes Syndrome that was "The Office". Toe-curling doth not equate with funny. The only way Gervais would make me laugh, is if he played Russian Roulette - with a .50 cal. Desert Eagle.

10/16/2012 7:11:45 AM



Read. The. Bible.

Read it. Now.

Go on. I'll wait.

You're back? Pretty vague, wasn't it? Very vague, actually. Almost like it could be applied to nearly anything, right?

10/16/2012 8:54:14 AM

Anon-e-moose

"I trust in the Bible because it has proven itself through prophecy"

Jesus' return in the lifetime of his disciples. Tyre.

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=89336&Page=6*

@Troll/Attention Whore/Nuts4Life

"You're asking me to change my beliefs"

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=75182&Page=4#1399249

Yes. As per the quoted 'following Jesus word' in the above linked thread, your own 'Word of God' - via 1 Thessalonians 5:21 - orders you to.

Jonathan Edwards did. Was he 'asked' to by anyone else...?

*- Oh, and Canuovea, we presented 'her'** with all the evidence that proves that there was never any so-called 'Global Flood' (ancient Egypt, China; existed before, after - and during), thus no 'Ark', therefore no Noah, ergo the Bible is lies, and God doesn't exist. QED. Thus we were freed from any debate responsibility (therefore it was impossible for we in FSTDT to 'abandon' the debate). It's not our fault if this educationally inferior fundie was so 'faith'-blinded by BS fiction - the Bible - if 'she' couldn't realise that, after 'she' & 'her' Bible being proven wrong in every conceivable way.

As per that debate flowchart, 'she' abandoned the argument, thus peroving we Atheists are right, and 'she' & 'her' so-called 'beliefs' are wrong in every conceivable way. After all, it didn't do long-time Christian Jonathan Edwards any harm when he admitted his beliefs were wrong; no faith-destroying debate with an Atheist required, neither (merely via his own critical thinking faculties). As it says on the rules on that flowchart:

'You are deemed to have conceded all opposing arguments up to this point'

So who abandoned the argument? We in that thread - and many other like it previously - were still prepared to argue the toss, based on the faith-annihilating, impossible to counter Reality-based proof (via evidence) we'd presented. Is it our fault 'she' refused to see Reality, even if it would've left 'her' no alternative but to admit we Atheists are right, and 'she' & 'her' 'beliefs' are wrong, thus 'her' having to recant 'her' so-called 'beliefs', and become an Atheist 'herself'? Had we Atheists - as per 'God and Pharaoh' - hardened her brain, resulting in zero neural activity (as does Absolute Zero, re. molecular activity)...?

**- As per Dr.Shrinker, re. her supposed 'race' (which 'she' has always relied upon as an excuse, just as an argument-avoiding measure), for all we know, 'she' could be a spotty 12-year old basement-dwelling (thus the trolling behaviour & attitude) white boy, for all we know.

10/17/2012 7:32:31 AM

Canuovea

Anon-e-moose,

If even the Catholic Church admits that the story of Noah's flood is pretty much certainly allegory/myth and not reality (or if so, not involving a worldwide flood), and still manage to consider themselves Christian, then I don't see how doing that here is going to crush His4Life's belief system.

There are other more serious contradictions in the bible though. I consider asking this question when discussing the bible. "Does God punish the children for the sins of the father? Give biblical support."

Abandoning the argument doesn't make one necessarily wrong, just either too tired to continue or not with enough knowledge to continue. Since religion is based on faith, not evidence, one could say "well, I don't have the knowledge to refute your points, but that doesn't mean that knowledge doesn't exist."

And to be fair, debates often lack substance.

10/17/2012 10:17:36 AM

His4Life

Anonemoose, you can call me whatever you want. I do not care if you think I'm white, black, or blue. When you're burning alive in hell and being sodomized by demons, do you really think you'll care what color my skin is and whether I'm male or female?

10/18/2012 8:12:43 AM

Filin De Blanc

His4Life has gone back to threatening rape. Charming.

10/18/2012 8:38:18 AM

Anon-e-moose

@Filin De Blanc

"His4Life has gone back to threatening rape. Charming."

Not for the first time, neither:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=88726&Page=9

@Jordab the Folf

"Aaannnd you resort to rape. Again.
"I will try to answer you every point in a logical, rational manner."
You're a fucking disgrace upon humanity. You're not even amusing to make fun of anymore. It's just depressing that you even exist."

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=88726&Page=4#1431207

"I am not taking glee in anyone's fate"

Yet, on the other hand:

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=88726&Page=5#1431845

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=89336&Page=5#1446086

"Anonemoose, I don't want to get into a tit-for-tat with you"

"I'm advoiding ad hominems - can you guys please try to be mature enough to do the same?"

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=75940&Page=3

"Steven Hawkings is a spinach man."

"I am not taking glee in anyone's fate"

"LOL. I can't wait to see you guys flop headfirst into hell. When you start screeching and trying to get out, I'm gonna be laughing my butt off in heaven."

"When you're burning alive in hell and being sodomized by demons, do you really think you'll care what color my skin is and whether I'm male or female?"

I love it when someone (who is a pathological liar, as proven above) resorts/is reduced to threats. Particularly empty threats. Especially when in a discussion/debate/logical argument, and they have nothing to counter any & all facts put before them/abandon such (because they know they can never win, due to they having nothing to present to the contrary). Thus is demonstrated the depth of their FAIL, specifically how they behave when someone won't come to their way of thinking, thus their need to threaten someone with their 'Believe what I say, or DIE!/Turn or Burn' attitude (as per their nonexistent sky pixie's own hyper-tyrannical method of being 'Loving'. 'Loving'? More like a spoiled, petulant child who pours boiling water into his ant farm, just because they're not behaving as he thinks they should; or purely for the demonic glee of seeing creatures in his charge die. Nope, not seeing Lucifer doing anything wrong in your so-called 'Word of God', thus the 'Mystery' of the Bible explained: he's the good guy in all of this, and, as proven in Isiah 45:7 & Amos 3:6, your 'Loving' God is the Evil One).

It means that I have already won.

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=67911&Page=4

"I am not tying to be mean and i am sorry if may attitude has turned anyone itnoff"

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=67654&Page=9

"LOL. I can't wait to see you guys flop headfirst into hell. When you start screeching and trying to get out, I'm gonna be laughing my butt off in heaven."

You, a 'Christian'? I've worked with Christians. I know Christians. My best friend is a Christian. Dearie, you're no Christian. [/Lloyd Bentsen]

'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

-Mohandas K. 'Mahatma' Gandhi

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=45089&Page=1

@Jman

"Why try to convince anyone to believe what you believe?"

Question: If - like the above fundie - you have no 'agenda' yourself, 'dearie', why are you here?

Ah, such is the Attention Whore. No matter their race, gender, or age; by their own actions/thinking, do they exhibit their inferiority and immaturity, when faced against their intellectual superiors:

"Anonemoose, you can call me whatever you want. I do not care if you think I'm white, black, or blue. When you're burning alive in hell and being sodomized by demons, do you really think you'll care what color my skin is and whether I'm male or female?"

"I do not care"

...but you do, to continue to Attention Whore yourself here, though. Nope. No Contradicting Yourself there, nosiree!

(*Pats Troll/Attention Whore/Nuts4Life on head*)



Yes, that's nice. Now you go back to your Fuzzy Felt© 'My Little Hell: Look! I Can Be A Revenge Fantasist Too!'® Playset, and your plastic bridge & plushie goats dear, the adults are talking.

10/18/2012 9:12:14 AM

His4Life

I never said anything about "rape." That's your word, not mine.

10/20/2012 5:15:38 AM

Filin De Blanc

"I never said anything about "rape." That's your word, not mine."

Have fun with that defence in court.

His4life doesn't believe forcible sodomy is rape, but remember, it's gay people who are the depraved perverts!

10/20/2012 5:52:08 AM
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